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46 will earn my respect when he enacts policy that benefits all Americans, and stops with reactionary policy based on fear.

I call 46 a number. Nothing derogatory about a number. Not calling him a dictator, nothing based in racism, but based in not giving him respect due to actions harmful to our core of the country.

Also, my label comes from the daughter of a civil rights icon. She may know a thing or two about civil disobedience.

Ah. So, as long as someone else said it first, it's ok. Especially if it's a civil rights icon's daughter.

Got it.

Her ethos carries weight.

Or, her name.

This is the nicest and most respectful name a liberal has given to our President. Kudos to you.

Trump 46! Somebody order a custom jersey...

Or 45. same idea.

It really ain't that bad.

What is the 46 supposed to signify? Year of birth?

At first I was thinking 46th President (it's been a long day, cut me some slack) but then I got to thinking about Bush 43.. Obama 44.. and it kind of hit me.

I think it's his % of the vote, but I have no idea. Personally, I like "The Don". Short, sweet and to the point. I don't even mean it derogatory. Just a name. I think he'd think it's big league.

John McCain is a big part of the reason we have Donald Trump, IMHO. The Republican establishment, especially in the Senate, have rolled over and played dead doe the past decade, with about the only evidence of a spine being in not bringing up Obama's Supreme Court nominee. It took their own power being on the line for them to actually grow a backbone against Obama, at all.

The House has passed a bunch of legislation since the Republicans have had the House, but Harry Reid "desk vetoed" most of it, but the Republicans have held the city since 2014. However, legislation still went to the Senate to die. The Republicans could have flooded Obama's desk with conservative legislation, but they simply refused to do it.

These men who have been in the Senate and in leadership positions in the Senate, for decades, are a big part of the problem; men like McCain, Graham, and other Republicans who have served for 30+ years in the Senate, and who get tough in election years, and then go back to being weak and ineffectual once re-elected.

Sad.

Like Trump or not, but he is actually pushing many of the things he campaigned on. That's a bit of fresh air from a guy I don't always agree with.

Percentage of the popular vote. You know how 46 loves popularity contests and all.

Your post is spot on.

http://www.sbsun.com/general-news/201512...disneyland-trip

Pallbearers carry the casket of Robert Adams, one of the 14 victims of the Dec. 2 shootings at Inland Regional Center, as he is laid to rest at Montecito Memorial Park in Colton. (Micah Escamilla/The Sun)

“Robert and Summer loved each other since they were teenagers,” Lopez wrote. “Robert always wanted to be a father and for the past 20 months, he was a devoted father to Savannah and cherished every moment with her. He and Summer and Savannah were inseparable. They were planning Savannah’s first trip to Disneyland next week.”

Swish/Rocket - I'll pass Summer's number on to you two so you can talk to her about her having NOTHING TO FEAR and how she doesn't have to be AFRAID OF HER OWN SHADOW as you guys are claiming .... talk to her about FEAR MONGERING ....

Please let us know how the call goes .... if after you talk to her if you would like to talk to some more folks about their baseless fear ... i have a bunch more names and numbers of VICTIMS FAMILIES that may not see this the same as u two do ...

are you that simple minded?

one of the shooters was American born.

let me repeat that, american born.

the other shooter, his wife, is from pakistan.

do you know what that means?

A. Pakistan is not on the travel ban list.

B. those two were also NOT refugees.

i'm going to repeat that, because that seems to be the only way you're capable of learning.

A. Pakistan is not on the travel ban list.

B. those two were also NOT refugees.

and the kicker? you can't ban AMERICAN BORN CITIZENS.

so when some refugees do something like San Bernardino, let me know. til then, shut up.

do you see that guy in Rocky's thread? that guy that killed those two teens?

based on YOUR logic, i should be scared of all white people.

did you see the black dude in chicago that popped a toddler? based on YOUR logic, i should be scared of all black people.

but there you go Diam. using someone's tragic death as a way to justify keeping refugees out even though the terrorist WERENT refugees. completely unrelated.

no wonder you and Vers are cool with each other. you two have the same low class character. birds of a feather flock together, after all.

go crawl into your safe space, snowflake. if you're that scared of the world around you, go buy a bunker, post up there. we'll protect you from the mean lil boogymen that's in your closet. maybe give you a pacifier so you can suck on it when you're really scared.

pathetic.

Thanks for the clarification. I'm not going to backtrack on my previous statements but don't be surprised if the '46' label doesn't stick. I may call him 45 from time to time. It's short, easily identifiable, and to the point.

Yeah I don't see anything wrong with "The Don" or "The Donald". I'm still not entirely used to "President Trump" myself and I don't think anybody will accuse me of being unfair to our President. A lot of times I just write Trump, like I often just wrote Obama, it's more a brevity thing. You'll probably see 'President Trump' from me more often, though.

I know he's not taking the salary, but show me what he's donating to the National Treasury....

As you wish...


A lawyer advising Donald Trump on ethics issues said Wednesday he will give hotel profits, generated by foreign government payments, to the U.S. Treasury as part of a plan to avoid possible conflicts of interest.

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/11/trump-law...o-treasury.html

I have had a similar thought before, which is more philosophical than anything:

Say liberals push for some insane, self-defeating policy, but they truly believe in their hearts that it is the right thing to do. Conservatives resist and resist, knowing how damaging it will be, but then eventually relent and allow it to happen, for fear of short-term consequences such as losing out on business or being called nasty words.

Who is at fault here?

The truth no longer matters when your country is run by the mad hatters.

We're late, we're late for our FOX News update!

Take the red pill then take the blue, make up some fake news to serve just you. Tell the world you are wonderful and wise, rule the world with fear and lies. Your supporters will sell their soul to follow you down this rabbit hole.

Just like the NFL I draft I say give Trump a few years before you folks raise him up on a Pedestal, or try to bury him alive. Everybody in this damn world today wants instant gratification. Throwing temper tantrums when they don't get what they want when they want it.

Such strong ether.

Let me get this straight ... your telling me not to be afraid of refugees because a 2nd generation refugee was 1/2 the jihadists in San Bernadino ... interesting tact ... hopefully this set of refugees has better kids .... sounds like a plan to me ... ...

All I just read is that not only do i need to worry about the actual refugess but about their kids also ... great ... now i have 2 generations of refugees to worry about ... if there's any 3rd generation refugees killing us please keep it to yourself ... it doesn't make us chickens feel any safer ....

Thanks for that .... ...

And I'm the simple minded one ... *LOL* .... smoke another joint bro ... your logic is ... well lacking logic ... *LOL* ...

What's pathetic in my eyes ... is the fact u could care less about your fellow americans ... u can spin this any way u want .... u can call me a snowflake and tell me what a low class person i am til the cows come home ... it won't change the FACTS ....

Let me know when u want Summer's phone number so you can explain to her HOW BASELESS HER FEARS ARE CAUSE A 2ND GENERATION REFUGEE MURDERED HER HUSBAND ....

Listen up OCD, because Mike Pence and the Senate make fifty-three. It's time to abort, before Neil Gorsuch lands on the Supreme Court.

The media may spit out lies, but all you have to do is reveal the disguise. Wikileaks has revealed the freaks. "Putin! Putin! Look over there! We must hide our deeds, that are worthy of the chair."

We're going to build a wall-- big, beautiful, and very tall. You'll have to get in line, and we will let you in, one at a time.

What's sad is I can smoke a joint and still make more sense than you do sober.

Sad, very sad.

Yea, you're simple minded response and rhetoric is based off of fear and not facts.

Which is why you couldn't refute a single point I made, and once again had to use the stoner argument as a way to discredit what I'm saying, because you can't debate me pound for pound.

Big league.

I won't fault him (yet) on the vacations.... they're all a bunch of slackers, but the nonsense with Trump Towers needs to end. That whole bit of shenanigans is a load of crap. Melania needs to suck it up and move to Pennsylvania Avenue..... that, or the Secret Service just need to invoke Eminent Domain and claim ownership of the space it needs to do its job.

I don't blame Melania for not wanting to be there and I don't like attacks on her or other family members not in the White House. Ivanka and her husband are fair game though because they are on staff.

BTW, How is Ivanka sitting in on staff meetings? I thought law prohibited that?


UPDATE: she doesn't have a formal role, yet I saw photos of her at meetings. Could have been informal meetings though.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/08/politics/ivanka-trump-white-house-life/

She is raising her son and letting him finish the school year without having to transfer to DC. like a good mother. When school ends, they are moving to DC.

Show some class already.

Ummm, you NEVER get to tell ANYONE to show some class.

OCD's personal official rules for 40, google it.

It's costing us millions for the secret service to secure trump tower and the White House at the same time.

Which is why I posted the article, they are about to exceed the amount that it cost the Obama's over 8 years in just a matter of 4. Hell, there's a chance they pull that off in just one year.

That's a problem. I also wonder if this is even a common thing for presidential families to do?

Did Michelle and their kids wait until the school year was over to pack up in move? Is there consistent evidence that presidents throughout history have done what trump is doing?

Families pack up and move all the time. Kids have to leave school and start somewhere else all the time. That excuse isn't flying with me.

Since when have liberals cared about what things cost?

Tell you what, find some cuts in our $2.2 trillion budget for social programs and then we can talk about funding for the security detail for the President and his immediate family.

For some sense of scale, a trillion is one million millions.

Uh oh, hope Mattis isn't next on the chopping block.

Trump's defense chief, in Iraq, says: We're not here for your oil

Reuters


https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-defense-chief-tells-iraq-were-not-oil-073335183.html

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - The U.S. military is not in Iraq "to seize anybody's oil", Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said, distancing himself from remarks by President Donald Trump at the start of a visit to Iraq on Monday.

Mattis, on his first trip to Iraq as Pentagon chief, is hoping to assess the war effort as U.S.-backed Iraqi forces launch a new push to evict Islamic State militants from their remaining stronghold in the city of Mosul.

But he is likely to face questions about Trump's remarks and actions, including a temporary ban on travel to the United States and for saying America should have seized Iraq's oil after toppling Saddam Hussein in 2003.

Trump told CIA staff in January: "We should have kept the oil. But okay. Maybe you'll have another chance."

Mattis, however, flatly ruled out any such intent. "We're not in Iraq to seize anybody's oil," he told reporters traveling with him.

His remarks are the latest example of his policy differences with Trump. Trump has acknowledged that Mattis did not agree with him about the usefulness of torture as an interrogation tactic but, in a sign of Mattis' influence, said he would defer the matter to his defense secretary.

Mattis has also been more critical than Trump of Russian President Vladimir Putin, and distanced himself from Trump's labeling of the media as "the enemy of the American people," saying he had no problems with the press.

A retired Marine general who led American troops in Iraq, Mattis has also sought an exemption from Trump's travel ban for Iraqis who served with U.S. troops, including translators.

He said he had not seen a new executive order which the administration is considering. "But I right now am assured that we will take steps to allow those who have fought alongside us, for example, to be allowed into the United States," Mattis said.

MOSUL CAMPAIGN

Mattis is finalizing plans at Trump's request to accelerate the defeat of Islamic State and is expected to meet senior U.S. and Iraqi officials in Iraq.

His visit comes a day after Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi announced the start of the ground offensive on western Mosul, where Islamic State militants are essentially under siege along with an estimated 650,000 civilians.

The insurgents were forced out of the east of the city last month after 100 days of fighting.

The U.S. commander in Iraq, Army Lieutenant General Stephen Townsend, has said he believes U.S.-backed forces will recapture both of Islamic State's major strongholds - Mosul and the city of Raqqa in Syria - within the next six months.

The defense secretary's strategy review could lead to additional deployment of U.S. forces, beyond the less than 6,000 American troops deployed to both Iraq and Syria today.

Experts say the Pentagon may also look at increasing the number of attack helicopters and air strikes and bringing in more artillery, as well as granting greater authority to battlefield commanders fighting Islamic State.

The future for U.S. forces in Iraq, and for Iraq's fragmented society, is unclear once the hardline Sunni group has been expelled from Mosul.

Mattis told the Senate last month that the top U.S. goal in Iraq should be "to ensure that it does not become a rump state of the regime in Tehran", which has close ties with the Shi'ite political elite ruling Iraq.

A power struggle appears to be taking root between Iraq's Shi'ite leaders. Influential cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, who is openly hostile to Washington's policies in the Middle East, has begun mobilizing supporters ahead of parliamentary and provincial elections.

Sadr on Monday said the government should demand the withdrawal of U.S. and allied forces after the battle of Mosul.

"The Iraqi government has to demand that all occupying and so-called friendly forces leave Iraq in order to preserve the prestige and the sovereignty of the state," he said.

Sadr's main rival is former prime minister Nuri al-Maliki, a pro-Iranian politician re-emerging as a possible kingmaker or even for a return to the premiership itself.

(With reporting by Maher Chmaytelli in Baghdad.; Editing by Alison Williams and Dominic Evans)

Haus, you're deflecting now from the topic at hand? Man I thought you was better than that. This is a first from you.

Which is how I know you have zero argument. Yikes. Such a train wreck in DC that Haus has resorting to deflection.

Especially when you were one of the ones complaining about the SAME cost of the obamas. Don't spin now. Address it.

Still waiting on your terrorist report in Sweden on Friday as well. The embassy is also awaiting a response.

It's not really deflecting. There is soooooo much wasteful spending by our government that I find it odd how people are harping so much on the extra cost needed to protect the President's immediate family for a number of months. If the Obamas had this arrangement with one of their daughters for a few months, you would not have reacted in the same manner.

The Obama's have decided to continue living in DC so their daughters can finish school, like any good parents would.

We will pay for their security too, rightfully.

Except I would've. Don't pretend to know how I would react to anything.

I've had this stance forever. The whole family needs to pack up and move in the White House.

There's plenty of wasteful spending. And this is one of them. So I can address it whenever and however I want.

Pence says US to hold Russia accountable, stand with NATO

https://www.yahoo.com/news/europe-pence-reassure-allies-start-trump-era-080304467--politics.html

As much as I dislike his policies (not him as a person) I feel bad for him.

Instead of trying to get stuff done, he's instead having to play damage control to everything trump is saying.

Why is it that pence and Mattis keeping saying the opposite of what Trump is saying? Man...they need to get it together in the oval.

What do you think of my rhymes above? I'm kind of new at it. just wondering if I have a future career in it.

You are wrong.

Both Pence and Mattis have said exactly what Trump has said, "We support NATO but you have got to start paying your way or face the consequences."