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Almost daily I read something along these lines .... so I figured I'd start a thread displaying just a smidge of the gifts our open border is bringing us ... there's be more ... but a lot of it is still going un-reported ... cause u know ... it increases the baseless fears us chickens have ....

This is a very enlightening article ... I think its so nice of us to concentrate the gang members together ... it makes the pre-planning they do before they get here so much more useful for them ...

Swish/Rocket let me know if u guys speak Spanish .. if so, I'll try and dig up this poor girls families and friends numbers so u can chat with them also ... I'm sure the odds of getting killed by an illegal are also "much" lower than that of being killed by an american citizen .. and who knows ... it might have been one of the "US citizens" arrested in this case that killed her ... so maybe I'm just afraid of NOTHING again ...

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Ten Arrested, Including Four Illegal Aliens, After ‘Savage’ Gang-Related Killing of Maryland Teen

Imported gang violence continues to afflict Virginia: authorities charged illegal alien suspects with murder and all ten suspects for gang participation and abduction on Thursday for the “brutal” slaying of 15-year-old Damaris Reyes Rivas.

Police arrested ten in connection with Rivas’ death: four adults and six teenagers. FOX5 reports “Jose Ivan Castillo Rivas, 18, Springfield, Wilmer A. Sanchez Serrano, 21, Cindy Blanco Hernandez, 18, and Aldair J. Miranda Carcamo, 18” are adults. Another 17-year-old, Venus Iraheta, who has lived in the U.S. for the past ten years—making her a “DREAMer” eligible for amnesty under an Obama executive order—is also in police custody. Police did not identify the other five juveniles. All ten face charges of abduction and gang participation. Rivas and Serrano are charged with murder.

Rivas died on or close to January 8 of upper-body trauma in a “savage, brutal killing,” Fairfax County Police Chief Edwin Roessler said. Police reportedly found video evidence of Rivas’ death and declined to name the gang connected to the teenager’s murder. According to Maria Reyes, Rivas’ mother, her daughter had gotten involved with the El Salvadoran gang Mara Salvatrucha or MS-13 recently. She told FOX 5 she is receiving violent threats from gang members “blaming her for the arrests” and is afraid for her own life.

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement placed detainers on the four adults charged with murder and has asked Fairfax County to alert them before they are released from custody.

One-fifth of the total population of El Salvador lives in the U.S. “El Salvador is the top country of birth for immigrants to Virginia,” the Associated Press reported in 2014. Nearly a quarter, or 23 percent, of Northern Virginia residents are foreigners, and 68 percent of the state’s foreign-born population lives there, researchers found in 2014. In 1970, only one in 100 residents in Virginia was foreign-born—but now, it is one in nine.

Roughly 247,000 illegal aliens live in Virginia, according to one estimate, meaning the state ranks in the top ten states with the largest populations of illegals. Among those are nearly 40,000 illegals from El Salvador. Another estimate pegged the total number of illegals at 275,000 in 2012, or 3.5 percent of the state’s population. Similarly, immigration led to a boom in the Latino or Hispanic population in Old Dominion since the 1990s: “The Latino share of Virginia’s population grew from 2.6 percent in 1990 to 4.7 percent in 2000 to 8.6 percent (or 707,962 people) in 2013,” according to the American Immigration Council.

Without immigration from El Salvador, there would be no MS-13 in America and fewer machete murders and dismembered bodies buried in idyllic parks. Since the 1990s, MS-13 has operated in the Washington, D.C., area with thousands of members.

Obama administration policies encouraged hundreds of thousands of Central American illegal aliens to surge into the U.S., and the administration helped them along by shipping them unannounced to unsuspecting American communities.

MS-13 leaders stationed in El Salvador had told the U.S.-based gangs to rebuild, and the large influx of young illegal aliens made the task easier. The Obama administration shipped illegal alien minors with clear MS-13 ties to MS-13 strongholds. One Department of Homeland Security official noted an “uptick” in MS-13 gang violence in the past two years, according to FOX5: “He said 18- and 19-year-olds in high schools work to recruit younger kids to help them carry out crimes because they are aware charges are less serious for juveniles.”

El Salvadoran nationals involved in gang violence at home bring their connections and plans for expansion to the United States. Chairman of the Northern Virginia Regional Gang Task Force Douglas W. Keen pointed to “increased recruitment of unaccompanied minors” illegally arriving in the U.S.

“When we debrief some of the arrestees they are telling us they were recruited at a young age and encouraged to commit crimes of assaults and larcenies. Then they move to narcotics and more violent crimes,” Keen told the Washington Post.

Director of the task force Jay Lanham also told FOX5 that gangs “are recruiting people as young as children in elementary school and they lure them through social media and parties where they offer them drugs, alcohol, and sex.” Taxpayers, of course, foot the bill for the illegal aliens’ schooling, social services, trials, incarceration, and the specialized task forces required to keep their explosive violence under control.




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I don't like these types of posts. I complained about Swish doing it to white people. I also don't like it when minorities are targeted.

I believe there are good and bad people from ALL groups and that attaching labels to specific groups is counter productive.

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First, RIP to the victim. Poor girl didn't deserve that, and she also deserves not being used as an attack piece on a message board. I'm sorry little girl that people like Diam and Vers exist. They don't actually care about your deaths, just using it as a tool to push their agenda. *Trump voice* sad, very sad.

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So you're admitting that you indeed don't view people as indivuals, but now as entire groups as a whole. So this incident is jusitification in your eyes to ban and kick out everybody.

Got it. If that's how you want to roll, cool. But understand, the moment you try to claim you view people as individuals based on what they do, I'm coming for you. Cause you're a habitual liar like your president. Absolutely disgusting. 2 articles now.

Birds of a feather flock together.


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I find it funny how the Liberals on these boards will post sob story after sob story about their agenda but "Oh Dear" if a Conservative does it.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
rolleyes


That's how I feel every time you post straight nonsense.


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Me gusta Mexicano banditos.


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Fear tactics. As if nothing good has ever crossed that border. I would take the mexican people as a whole over many many American communities.

Change your pants and clean up, then put on your reality hats and let's solve some REAL problems. smh

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Did you know that the majority of Mexicans are hard working, god fearing, salt of the earth types? Can you get past their skin color long enough to see that?

Every country has bad actors. America has gangs and criminals. We have the biggest cartels in the world, called big Pharma.

I forgive you for feeling the way you do though, you can't help that you have bought into the lies, fear mongering and hate speech because you are limited in so many ways.

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Roughly 247,000 illegal aliens live in Virginia,


This part gets to me. Why is it that nobody on either side has done anything about this??? They all should have been booted back across the border as soon as it was proved that they were illegals. banghead


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Roughly 247,000 illegal aliens live in Virginia,


This part gets to me. Why is it that nobody on either side has done anything about this??? They all should have been booted back across the border as soon as it was proved that they were illegals. banghead


blame the corporations you worship.

somebody is hooking them up with jobs.


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Roughly 247,000 illegal aliens live in Virginia,


This part gets to me. Why is it that nobody on either side has done anything about this??? They all should have been booted back across the border as soon as it was proved that they were illegals. banghead


Proximity to DC and Obama's will, Democrat Governor who was the right hand man to the Clintons.
Now it makes sense, doesn't it?

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somebody is hooking them up with jobs.


Blame the GOVERNMENT for knowing they are illegals and doing nothing about it. Like I said the problem is with both the Dems, and the Repubs.


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The Bushes did nothing to stop it either.


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We are talking Virginia here.
Bush didn't have the negative effect like Obama and our governor have.

Nationwide, our immigration policies for decades have been poor.

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Originally Posted By: Swish

First, RIP to the victim. Poor girl didn't deserve that, and she also deserves not being used as an attack piece on a message board. I'm sorry little girl that people like Diam and Vers exist. They don't actually care about your deaths, just using it as a tool to push their agenda. *Trump voice* sad, very sad.

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So you're admitting that you indeed don't view people as indivuals, but now as entire groups as a whole. So this incident is jusitification in your eyes to ban and kick out everybody.

Got it. If that's how you want to roll, cool. But understand, the moment you try to claim you view people as individuals based on what they do, I'm coming for you. Cause you're a habitual liar like your president. Absolutely disgusting. 2 articles now.

Birds of a feather flock together.


I'm saying build a wall and get rid of the illegals ... thats what I'm saying ... your weed induced brain can take it and run as far as you'd like with it ...

How nice of u to pass along your condolences as u wave in the next group of illegals across the border .... atta boy .... what a heart ..... rolleyes ...

Oh no ... you've all ready FLEXED ON ME ... now your COMING AFTER ME ... the HORROR .... I'm a scared now ...




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Nobody is doing anything about it.

Why? Because the sad truth that you guys can't admit is this: illegal immigrants are needed.

Not to pick on you GM, but I don't see you moving to southern Cali and applying for a job to go pick cherries.

I don't see any conservatives by the masses to go do that. Why is it? I've asked this question multiple times on the board, and everybody dodges it.

Why is it that the same ideology complaining about illegal immigration and jobs are the same group that isn't moving down to the south by the masses to work those jobs?

Ted and D.C.: I feel you guys on your specific industries, painting and construction. It's a problem. But the reality is that the BULK of the jobs you conservatives complain about is jobs based in agriculture. Farm work.

And I don't see any conservatives lining up to do those jobs.

There's a reason why Reagan gave them amnesty. Remember that the next time you guys claim to be the party of Reagan.

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Once again, couldn't refute a thing I said, so gotta revert back to the stoner argument.

Pathetic. Must suck to be that clueless all the time.


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Completely wrong.

We need legal immigrants and migratory workers on work permits.

This is why we took in many Pols and Welch immigrants in the early years because we needed Coal miners. All legal.

American Immigration Policy should be based on America's needs, not on some Liberal agenda of no borders, the world has a right to live here crap.

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You're completely wrong, and again can't admit the simple truth.

But keep thinking it's a liberal agenda. That's fine. Look in the mirror when you have to start paying 8 dollars for a head of lettuce.


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You're completely wrong, and again can't admit the simple truth.


The simple truth is that illegal means illegal.

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You're completely wrong, and again can't admit the simple truth.


The simple truth is that illegal means illegal.


Tell that to republican Jesus.


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You're completely wrong, and again can't admit the simple truth.


The simple truth is that illegal means illegal.


Tell that to republican Jesus.


He already knows it, I am teaching you!

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Originally Posted By: Swish
Nobody is doing anything about it.

Why? Because the sad truth that you guys can't admit is this: illegal immigrants are needed.

Not to pick on you GM, but I don't see you moving to southern Cali and applying for a job to go pick cherries.

I don't see any conservatives by the masses to go do that. Why is it? I've asked this question multiple times on the board, and everybody dodges it.

Why is it that the same ideology complaining about illegal immigration and jobs are the same group that isn't moving down to the south by the masses to work those jobs?

Ted and D.C.: I feel you guys on your specific industries, painting and construction. It's a problem. But the reality is that the BULK of the jobs you conservatives complain about is jobs based in agriculture. Farm work.

And I don't see any conservatives lining up to do those jobs.

There's a reason why Reagan gave them amnesty. Remember that the next time you guys claim to be the party of Reagan.

You're looking ten years in the past. I prefer to look ten years in the future, when most unskilled labor will be automated anyway, and we'll have even more of a shortage of jobs than we do now. What do we do then?

Here's what you start with: a merit-based immigration system. By all means, bring in the business owners, the engineers, and the doctors. You'll find plenty of those types of people in Europe and eastern Asia who want to come here, but anywhere you can find them is obviously ok.

Bringing in unskilled people en masse is one of the worst policies a nation can have. That is how you destroy a nation from within, over time.

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Nobody is doing anything about it.

Why? Because the sad truth that you guys can't admit is this: illegal immigrants are needed.


No they are not needed. They take away jobs from American citizens AND they don't even pay taxes.

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Not to pick on you GM, but I don't see you moving to southern Cali and applying for a job to go pick cherries.


Pick away bro. I'm a big boy with thick skin it's cool. I wouldn't move to Cali to do anything, but I am sure there are citizens in Cali who would take a job picking cherries.

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I don't see any conservatives by the masses to go do that. Why is it? I've asked this question multiple times on the board, and everybody dodges it.

Why is it that the same ideology complaining about illegal immigration and jobs are the same group that isn't moving down to the south by the masses to work those jobs?


Just where did I say the right was not to blame. I Said the problem is with BOTH sides.


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This is a good point as robots will be replacing workers in the coming decades.

So many illegals come to America and go right on Welfare.
When they find work, they go off Welfare.
When robots replace them they will go right back on Welfare.

This is why we have chosen who comes to America over the past Century, we ask, what do you have to offer?

When we needed coal miners we favored Polish and Welsh immigrants who had the experience.

When we need potato pickers, we allow migrants with work permits.

Today we need Tech savvy folks for tech businesses so we look to Indian and Asian immigrants to fill America's needs.

This is not about providing a home for the world, it is about meeting America's needs!

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Is that how you destroy nations over time?

Because the opposite has happened. We have illegals working agriculture jobs for decades. Our GDP and everything else continues to push forward.

It's funny, because when everything is going well, you don't hear much about illegals, yet when things go south, somehow they are the first group to get blamed for everything, even though they had nothing to do with the housing bubble and recessions.

I'm looking into the future as well, which is why I mentioned the grocery bill.

And those unskilled jobs are being replaced by high skilled labor. Which is why we have so many jobs that require programming skills and such. The market has a way of correcting itself, you of all people should know that.

And you of all people should be aware that not everybody can be saved. Industries rise and fall all the time. Winners and losers. That's life.


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What agriculture jobs are illegals taking away from Americans?

Last year I posted a vice news video about how the farmers in Alabama needed the illegals, because no American citizens, specifically in that state, wanted to come to work the fields.

So you're gonna have to go into detail of what you're referring to.


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Is that how you destroy nations over time?

Because the opposite has happened. We have illegals working agriculture jobs for decades. Our GDP and everything else continues to push forward.

It's funny, because when everything is going well, you don't hear much about illegals, yet when things go south, somehow they are the first group to get blamed for everything, even though they had nothing to do with the housing bubble and recessions.

I'm looking into the future as well, which is why I mentioned the grocery bill.

And those unskilled jobs are being replaced by high skilled labor. Which is why we have so many jobs that require programming skills and such. The market has a way of correcting itself, you of all people should know that.

And you of all people should be aware that not everybody can be saved. Industries rise and fall all the time. Winners and losers. That's life.

We have a lot of problems in our country. I don't blame illegals for all of them.. that would be taking things much too far. We have laws though, and many are there for good reason. Come here legally, or don't come here.

There are some edge cases, for example productive and law-abiding citizens who have been here for decades, where some exceptions can be made.

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All we have done here is tell the migrant workers from the past to come here and stay as illegals. This must end. Go home, apply for work permits and become migrant workers again.

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Originally Posted By: Swish
Once again, couldn't refute a thing I said, so gotta revert back to the stoner argument.

Pathetic. Must suck to be that clueless all the time.


Refute anything u said ... u didn't make an argument other than I'm a bird in a flock ... sorry i didn't take anytime to refute it ....

Once again .... the stoner thing is not an argument .... its a FACT .... oh wait .. let me guess .. weed helps u to think clearer ... *LOL* ... keep on telling yourself that ... if u say it enough it'll make it true ...

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Sorry, all I heard was noise, not an actual rebuttal.

Lay off the alcohol. You're embarrassing yourself.


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Sorry, all I heard was noise, not an actual rebuttal.

Lay off the alcohol. You're embarrassing yourself.


Do i need to explain the difference between a lie and a fact again ...

LIE = Calling Diam a drunk even though he doesn't drink ....

FACT = Calling swish a stoner cause he smokes weed what i would guess is many times a day ...

U still struggling with that Swish? ... get your boy ROCKET to help u out with the difference .... he's a teacher ... rofl

So u want me to reply to your first response ... OK ... here goes ..

I'm not a bird and therefore do not belong to a flock ....

How's that? ...




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I don't know how you put up with it Diam, Vers tried to teach him, I tried to learn him, and now you try to teach him.

You must have the strength of 100 men!

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I don't know how you put up with it Diam, Vers tried to teach him, I tried to learn him, and now you try to teach him.

You must have the strength of 100 men!


I do believe I have some Trump blood in me ... thumbsup




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3 old men, 180 years of experience, yet all clueless.

sad, very sad.


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I don't know how you put up with it Diam, Vers tried to teach him, I tried to learn him, and now you try to teach him.

You must have the strength of 100 men!


I do believe I have some Trump blood in me ... thumbsup


Oh, then make that 1000 men.

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Today we get two installments ....

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/02/20/sus...eportation.html

Suspect in Denver murder was wanted for possible deportation

One of the suspects accused of killing a man at a Denver light rail station was in custody in Denver and wanted for possible deportation by federal authorities when he was released from jail weeks before the murder.

One of the suspects accused of killing a man at a Denver light rail station was in custody in Denver and wanted for possible deportation by federal authorities when he was released from jail weeks before the murder.

Ever Valles is currently in jail in Denver along with another man for the killing of Tim Cruz, 32, on February 7. He and Nathan Valdez were formally charged Friday for murder. The two also are accused of trying to rob Cruz.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement had placed a detainer on Valles after Denver police arrested him in October 2016 for car theft and other charges. That means ICE wanted to be notified of any pending release because he was suspected of being in the United States illegally.

“Ever Andres Valles, 19, a citizen of Mexico, was encountered by ICE via the Criminal Alien Program following his arrest on local charges in October 2016," ICE told FOX31 in a statement Friday night.

"At the time of his arrest, ICE placed a detainer with the Denver County Jail. The detainer wasn’t honored, and he was released by the jail Dec. 20, 2016, without notification to ICE. Valles is a known gang member whose gang history is documented in the Colorado gang database. Due to his criminal history and gang affiliation, Valles is an ICE immigration enforcement priority."

A Denver Sheriff Department spokesman responded Friday night, saying ICE was told about Valles' release before it happened. He was released once he posted $5,000 bond.

"In the case of Ever Valles, ICE was notified by fax that Mr. Valles was being released prior to his release," the spokesman said in a statement. "Denver has never and will never advocate for felons to remain on our streets -- immigrants or not." You can see the fax and time and date of transmission to ICE here.

We are part of the criminal justice system and do not hold people on civil matters," the Sheriff Department spokesman said.




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3 old men, 180 years of experience, yet all clueless.

sad, very sad.


Hmmmm ... maybe i should start getting stoned every day so i could be smart like U .... rofl




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