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it appears the KD injury is worse than feared..they are saying now it could be months and hoping that it isn't season ending..Somewhere, Karma has a devilish smirk


Man bro and they got rid of damn near all their solid bench players, and a starter in bogut, just to grab KD.

Things just got super interesting in the west.


It sounds like he'll be back for the playoffs.

They [obviously] still have the other three guys, so they won't lose the #1 seed. It will be interesting to see how quick they can gel after Durant gets back.

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It really is their 1st major injury in a long time.

I remember our trip to the Finals 2 years ago, when we lost both Love and Kyrie. After they won the Finals, one of the players on their team was asked if he felt anything because of how injury depleted the Cavaliers were? He said something along the lines of "it doesn't matter because we won".

He was right, but by that same token, they better not say a word about their own injuries.


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Curry was hurt last year. (Obviously not to the same extent that Irving and Love were in 15.)

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Big game tonight, win and pick up a game. Curious to see how Dwill comes in and handles the second unit and how much time he and lebron are on the floor at the same time


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McCrae did absolutely nothing to warrant a spot on this team. other than just being boys with the king.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
McCrae did absolutely nothing to warrant a spot on this team. other than just being boys with the king.


You mean like James Jones and Chris Andersen and that one Mike Miller year?

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those 3, yes.

at least JJ can still spot up, at least.


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The celtics chances are obviously slim to none if we go into the playoffs healthy, but I understand espn needs to drum up interest.

Could Boston KO champs in playoffs? Scouts have their say

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18792265/do-celtics-enough-beat-cavs-east-finals-here-scouts-say

Over the past two seasons, the Cleveland Cavaliers have blitzed through the Eastern Conference playoffs, sweeping four of the six series they've played and finishing two others in six games.

It has led to a common belief that the Cavs, barring significant injuries, will do so again this spring. That's a relevant question today as they head into a game in Boston against the Celtics (8 ET, ESPN), currently owners of the No. 2 seed.

So we asked a collection of scouts and league executives: Could you see the Celtics upsetting the Cavs if they were to meet in the conference finals?


Will LeBron and the Cavs ever find themselves undone by Isaiah Thomas and the Celtics? Jason Miller/Getty Images
"When you watch the Cavs play now you see how much confidence they play with. It's a huge difference from two years ago," a Western Conference scout said. "It's going to be really hard to crack that. When they get in close games, they play like they expect to win. That would be a big hurdle for the Celtics to have to clear. They'd have to shake them, and I'm not sure they can."

The Cavs do have confidence against Boston. Dating to the 2014 playoffs, the Cavs are 8-1 in the series. The lone Celtics victory came in miraculous fashion last season in Cleveland, where they managed to execute a five-point possession after falling down by four with just eight seconds to play. Avery Bradley finished it with a 3-pointer at the buzzer. Other than stealing that one, it has been all Cavs.

"They don't care about any of that," said an Eastern Conference scout about the Celtics. "These guys play fearless, and they fight every game, no matter the circumstances. I'm a believer in them. Would I be shocked if they pulled an upset on Cleveland in the playoffs? No."

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The Celtics have played the Cavs tough. In November, the Cavs were up 17 going into the fourth quarter before a now standard Isaiah Thomas-led fourth-quarter surge made it tight at the end. In December, it was a one-point game in the final 30 seconds before the Cavs pulled away. Both games were in Cleveland.

At the moment, the Cavs have a four-game lead on Boston for the top seed and home court in a potential series. A victory Wednesday would effectively make it a six-game lead, because it would clinch the season series and the tiebreaker. The Celtics have lost three of four games, giving the Cavs a little cushion back after the deficit narrowed ahead of the All-Star break.

"Boston rarely beats themselves," one scout said. "If you're going to figure a way for them to beat Cleveland, that is a place to start. They have the occasional sloppy performance, but typically, they make you beat them. And they're very well coached, they get baskets out of timeouts late in games and they squeeze points out with coaching moves. If you're looking for a team that has the package to pull an upset, they're it. But they'd need help from Cleveland probably."

Said another scout: "They might be able to beat Cleveland this week because they don't have their full team. But if the Cavs are fully healthy, especially if J.R. [Smith] is back, then I don't see it. They have no place to hide Isaiah on defense. Now you can hide him on [Iman] Shumpert or if they play [DeAndre] Liggins or [Kay] Felder. When they have J.R. and [Kyle] Korver, they can really take advantage of him."

Thomas has had some big games against the Cavs, averaging 24.4 points over the past two seasons. He has two 30-point games this season and has repeatedly exploited them by using his shiftiness to draw fouls. He's 27-of-27 at the line against the Cavs this season and 49-of-52 over the past two seasons.

But the Celtics haven't been able to stop the Cavs defensively when Thomas is on the court. Over the past five meetings, the Cavs score 118.2 points per 100 possessions with Thomas in the game and just 104.5 with him off the floor. It is not a surprise that the Cavs have topped 120 points in each of the past three meetings.

The Cavs aren't great on defense, either. They currently rank 20th in points per possession, several spots below the Celtics. But they have more offensive firepower and just set a franchise record for highest scoring average in a month when they put up 117 points a game in February.


When Avery Bradley, left, stunned Cleveland at the buzzer last season, it was the lone high point for Boston in recent clashes with the Cavs. AP Photo/Tony Dejak
"People wonder how teams can't stop [Thomas] because of his size. Well, let me tell you, there isn't a defense in the world that can stop him when he's on the run, because he's too quick," one scout said. "But in the playoffs, when the games slow down and the passing lanes tighten up, he can have problems. Then it comes down to whether the rest of the team can beat you."

Another scout had questions about the Celtics' offensive punch aside from Thomas.

"I saw where LeBron said recently his team was too 'top heavy,'" the scout said. "Well, when you look at the Celtics, they're too middle-heavy. After Isaiah, there isn't much that scares you. They have some guys who can have big games, yes, but do they have anyone that can make you pay if you load up on Thomas?"

That was the reason the Celtics signed Al Horford last summer. After injuries earlier in the season, Horford has been a sound addition. He ranks ninth among centers in real plus-minus, though he has the lowest PER and the lowest shooting percentage of his career. It's also the reason the Celtics have been in the trade market for stars such as Jimmy Butler and Paul George.

"The Celtics are an example of incremental improvement, and that's something we don't value as much as we should," a veteran scout said. "We expect every team to go from bad to great. It's not exactly the same OK, but they remind me of the Pistons in early 2000s. They had flaws, yeah, but they kept getting better and better. Then, bam, they get Rasheed [Wallace], and they're a killer. I can see the same thing unfolding here."

If they're able to get another star player to act as a counter-balance for Thomas, the matchup with the Cavs changes greatly. With high draft picks, tradable assets and salary-cap space, that player might be coming -- eventually.

But he didn't arrive in time to affect this year's playoffs. The professionals believe that player could be the difference for Boston in the postseason.

"They have some strong and smart individual defenders like [Marcus] Smart, [Avery] Bradley and [Jae] Crowder," a scout said. "And all those guys are tough. They can beat you up. They all help Thomas on defense, but they can't always help him on offense. Until he gets more help, I think it's the Cavs' conference."


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Deron Williams. 2 points in 2 quarters. Bum. Get rid.

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j/c:

We now have two DWill's. I think both will be a huge help for the Cavs.

DWill----the big: The cat is very active. Quick jumper. He actually can shoot. Never knew that. I love his athleticism. What a find.

DWill---the PG. Did y'all hear he is number 1 on the pick and roll? He is an excellent player. Been a fan of his since he broke in w/Utah. I love his mid-range game. That's rare nowadays. He can hit the 15 footer consistently.

I'm really liking this team.

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Derrick Williams has been quite the diamond in the rough. Well, for a #2 pick in the draft anyway. He looked like he was on his way to busting out of the league, and now he's looking more like someone worthy of the second pick.

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I knew very little about his game. But damn man, the guy is impressive. He has some real explosion. Wiry strong. He can run and jump. Even shoot the three. His defense is lacking, but what a find!!!!

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Wow! This is a GREAT game.

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This is gettin' scrappy!


WE DON'T NEED A QB BEFORE WE GET A LINE THAT CAN PROTECT HIM
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How was that a foul on LeBron?

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
. Did y'all hear he is number 1 on the pick and roll?
Huh??


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Go play w/your friends.

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I hope this group of refs don't work the playoff games.


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Yeah, they've been bad for both teams. That out of bounds call wasn't even close.

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Finally! Man he's had a hard night!


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Lebron made two bad defensive decisions and it's cost us


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Man oh man is this game good


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Man if Boston would have got PG13 things would have gotten interesting in the east. Boston plays tremendous defense


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Originally Posted By: leadtheway
Lebron made two bad defensive decisions and it's cost us


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This is a great game. Man, that was a hell of a shot Thomas just made.

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OMG.................Kyrie!!!!!

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I hate NBA refs more than any officiating in any sport


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Man screw you kyrie...pass the damn ball


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Originally Posted By: leadtheway
Man screw you kyrie...pass the damn ball


Are you for real?

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Deron had such a clean look at that


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Good game. Makes me excited for the playoffs.


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Guess we know why Deron was a free agent that we could sign for the vet minimum now. grin

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Originally Posted By: ExclDawg
Guess we know why Deron was a free agent that we could sign for the vet minimum now. grin


Are you being serious or facetious?

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Guess we know why Deron was a free agent that we could sign for the vet minimum now. grin


He'll come around. Look at Korver, wasn't all that for a few weeks when he got here.

Wasn't even all that tonight, but for the most part-pretty damn good.


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Kyrie irving, 28 points 1 assist.. alot of hero ball tonight. I hope that goes away once Jr and Love get back


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one thing is for certain: Frye plays way better off the bench than he does starting.


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I'm saying it tongue and cheek, but if he was some super-clutch shooter, we really wouldn't be picking him up on the free-agent market the way we did.

He did look a little out of sorts tonight, especially on Defense, but I'm sure he'll come around eventually like Korver did.

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Originally Posted By: Swish
one thing is for certain: Frye plays way better off the bench than he does starting.


Frye has been garbage ever since he's became a starter, on both ends...I never expect his shot to go in now, that wasn't the case earlier..I think he's pressing


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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
Go play w/your friends.
You're my only friend.

I was hoping you would educate me as to what is involved in the stat of being #1 in pick and roll.


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