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Can't wait for that pre Free Agency test the waters come. This way we both can realize what the market is with him. If big $$ I think Pryor will give us a shot to match. If not much interest in $$$ then Pryor will simply sign with us!

jmho I think he will be a Brown within a week.


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jmho I think he will be a Brown within a week.


God I hope you're right.

I mean, this is what the original idea was. Grow your own talent and sign them. The way the Steelers and Packers do. Well, now we have a guy who played well, shows a bunch of potential, so let's get the deal done and sign him


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jmho I think he will be a Brown within a week.


God I hope you're right.


Ditto. I'm not feeling as optimistic right now. And I'm only basing that on BROWNS.

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jmho I think he will be a Brown within a week.


God I hope you're right.


Ditto. I'm not feeling as optimistic right now. And I'm only basing that on BROWNS.


If we want him, and he wants to be here like the stories and etc seem to suggest - then both sides will get it done. Patience...

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Technically, free agency does not begin until March 9 at 4pm...

...the period when teams can legally discuss potential/future contracts with the agents of free agents begins March 7 at 00:01(am).

...but no contract can be signed until, March 9, 4pm.



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March 7-9 is an open window for teams to start contract talks with unrestricted free agents. This time is unformally known as the "Legal Tampering Period" since teams are allowed to speak with players from other teams.

After 4:00 p.m. on March 9th is when the new league year officially begins. Since teams had the brief open period before this day, the first few hours of free agency are often pretty hectic with players signing left and right.


The front office still has time to get the Pryor deal done. Hopefully this front office learned something from IT'S PRIOR FAILURES (in 2016)...

...when the front office reaches the "legal tampering period" (this year, 3/6/2017-3/9/2017) it is not a reason for the front office to be POed at the player and stop trying to get a deal done with his agent. Had the Browns front office continued to negotiate with Mitch Schwartz's agent during the legal tampering period in 2016, Schwartz would have been the Browns RT for the 2016 season.

Just because a Browns free agent reaches the legal tampering period, it does not mean that the Browns FRONT OFFICE has to stop negotiating with the player's agent to get a deal done.

Sahsi, DO YOUR JOB...GET THE DEAL DONE...GET PRYOR SIGNED...!!!

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Petey...I actually think that the similar situation. One season as a WR neither the Steelers nor Packers would make him a top 3-5 WR in payment.

We might but I think both would let him walk.

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Didn't the Steelers just give big money to Antonio Brown?

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Uh oh...better get a deal done soon. If other teams start making offers, we're dead in the water.


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Didn't the Steelers just give big money to Antonio Brown?


Yep. Lots! He's worth what he can get - great receiver, obviously.

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He better not end up w/the Steelers.

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My blood-pressure meds won't handle him going to the Steelers.

Just get it done, Browns.

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Source close to @TerrellePryor says @Browns aren't serious enough. Has interest from teams in div, including ravens, who are very interested


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This is killing me.

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Source close to @TerrellePryor says @Browns aren't serious enough. Has interest from teams in div, including ravens, who are very interested


https://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/03/browns_terrelle_pryor_drawing.html

Browns' Terrelle Pryor drawing interest from Steelers, Giants, 49ers, Eagles and Titans as legal tampering opens, sources say

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Going to Pittsburgh would be... devastating to me and to our team.

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My blood-pressure meds won't handle him going to the Steelers.

Just get it done, Browns.
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Source close to @TerrellePryor says @Browns aren't serious enough. Has interest from teams in div, including ravens, who are very interested


https://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/03/browns_terrelle_pryor_drawing.html

Browns' Terrelle Pryor drawing interest from Steelers, Giants, 49ers, Eagles and Titans as legal tampering opens, sources say

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Going to Pittsburgh would be... devastating to me and to our team.



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By Mary Kay Cabot, cleveland.com
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CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Terrelle Pryor is drawing interest from his hometown Steelers, the Giants, 49ers, Titans and Eagles as the free agency two-day negotiating window opens on Tuesday at noon, league sources told cleveland.com.

There are likely other teams that will express interest too.

The Steelers are Pryor's hometown team, but they showed no interest in signing him last year after the Browns cut him and he was out of football for most of 2016. Pryor is also close with Steelers receiver Antonio Brown, who shares the same agent, Drew Rosenhaus.

Rosenhaus last week made Brown the highest-paid receiver in the NFL at $17 million a year. The problem with the Steelers is that they only have about $23 million in cap space and would be hard-pressed to pay him compared to the league-high $102 million for the Browns.

During this two-day period, teams may "negotiate all aspects" of the contract with an agent but can't execute the deal until free agency officially opens Thursday at 4 p.m.

Over the next two days, Rosenhaus will know exactly what he can get for the 1,000-yard receiver on the open market, and then the Browns will have an opportunity to match or exceed the best deal.

Rosenhaus and Pryor also will weigh the offers to find the right opportunity for him.

The two sides are currently far apart, with Rosenhaus believing that Pryor will be paid like one of the top receivers in the NFL, sources say. Others in the top five include Cincinnati's A.J. Green at $15 million a year and Atlanta's Julio Jones at $14,250 per year.

The Browns last week opted not to franchise Pryor, which would've paid him $15.826 million for 2017. Browns head of football operations Sashi Brown said at the NFL Combine last week he knew that would put Pryor ''effectively in free agency'' and that he knew teams would start to reach out despite the fact they're not allowed to until tomorrow.

He also said Pryor "is a priority'' but "we won't be panicked if he's not on our roster.''

Translation: We're far apart on the numbers.

Brown added that he didn't feel pressured to get Pryor wrapped up to a long-term deal.

"We don't look at it that way, to be honest,'' Brown said. "We'd like to have Terrelle back and that's a priority for us. That said, we're not going to panic if he's not back, also. But he's a good player, works hard, we think he fits in our system, had a lot of success with our coaches, so we think this is a great place for him to continue his career.

"I appreciated his remarks with the press about wanting to stay in Cleveland, and then it's on us in this process here to try to make sure we can exhaust all options to make that happen.''

Browns coach Hue Jackson, who drafted Pryor in 2011 in Oakland, said he hopes he'll return.

"It's free agency, so they get to make a choice and a decision, too," Jackson said. "Hopefully, he'll make the right one and stay here with us."

He added, "Obviously Terrelle was a huge piece of what we did a year ago," Jackson said. "Obviously we're working through that. And it has to work both ways for all involved -- for him, for us and hopefully it will."

The thing working in Pryor's favor is that are very top few receivers set to hit free agency. Working to the Browns' advantage is that Pryor wants to play for Jackson and wants to be close to his toddler son, Terrelle Jr., who lives in Pittsburgh. The Steelers would also have an edge in that regard.

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From the above article:

Over the next two days, Rosenhaus will know exactly what he can get for the 1,000-yard receiver on the open market, and then the Browns will have an opportunity to match or exceed the best deal.

That's good. Let's see what the Browns will do then... (Ut-oh?) willynilly

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And this is the problem (if the FO can't retain Pryor)

I have confidence in Hue as a coach. But as of now I don't have confidence in the FO for giving Hue something to work with.


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After reading the latest reports, I'd bet we'll hear he's signing elsewhere by tomorrow night at 9pm eastern.

If he is asking to be paid like the best WRs in football, seems like the front office screwed up by not tagging him. Paying $15m for one season is better than guaranteeing $70m and is also better than him walking for nothing (though, we'd probably get a 3rd rounder for compensation if he signs a big deal).

Oh well. Another talent piece gone.


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If you're building a team from scratch why sign 1 year rentals?

Don't you want players to learn your system grow as at team CONTINUITY?

You don't want your talent to walk but you don't want the agents walking on you either.

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Originally Posted By: Vambo
If you're building a team from scratch why sign 1 year rentals?

Don't you want players to learn your system grow as at team CONTINUITY?

You don't want your talent to walk but you don't want the agents walking on you either.


It's not like we have a lot of talent. He's about the only bright spot we had on offense last year. One of the only bright spots on the team


What are we supposed to build on if we don't sign our own guys that actually show ability and potential?


I'll tell ya, if we don't get this guy signed, i'm probably gonna be joining Mac in the FO sucks crowd


We were 1-15, have the most cap space in the league. If someone else is offering him more than we are, chances are, they might be right..........


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maybe if the money is close he'd rather play elsewhere.


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Originally Posted By: PeteyDangerous
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If you're building a team from scratch why sign 1 year rentals?

Don't you want players to learn your system grow as at team CONTINUITY?

You don't want your talent to walk but you don't want the agents walking on you either.


It's not like we have a lot of talent. He's about the only bright spot we had on offense last year. One of the only bright spots on the team


What are we supposed to build on if we don't sign our own guys that actually show ability and potential?


I'll tell ya, if we don't get this guy signed, i'm probably gonna be joining Mac in the FO sucks crowd


We were 1-15, have the most cap space in the league. If someone else is offering him more than we are, chances are, they might be right..........


This ones on the agent, Pryor wants to be here Browns want him here.

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maybe if the money is close he'd rather play elsewhere.


All i know is that our offense is lacking of talent at the skill positions. Who do we expect to replace him with?


I'd at least like the opportunity to be able to match a contract. I mean, if someone else is offering him a bigger deal than we are, why? Because, lord knows, we need him about as much as anyone else in the league, with our 107 million dollars of cap space

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maybe if the money is close he'd rather play elsewhere.


All i know is that our offense is lacking of talent at the skill positions. Who do we expect to replace him with?



Wide receivers available in all shapes and sizes

Chiefs general manager John Dorsey praised the depth of this rookie receiver class, a common sentiment throughout the week. The depth and variety of the free-agent crop is also better than it is at most positions. There are young players just hitting their prime (Alshon Jeffery and Terrelle Pryor), proven deep threats (DeSean Jackson and Kenny Stills) and trusty veteran chain-movers (Brandon Marshall and Pierre Garcon). There are also intriguing young players with red flags, such as Kendall Wright and Michael Floyd, who will get second chances. Similar to the pass rushers, there is good depth at wideout in free agency and the draft.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...e-agency-market

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I'm with ya Petey, I wanna keep him.


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Wide receivers available in all shapes and sizes

Chiefs general manager John Dorsey praised the depth of this rookie receiver class, a common sentiment throughout the week. The depth and variety of the free-agent crop is also better than it is at most positions. There are young players just hitting their prime (Alshon Jeffery and Terrelle Pryor), proven deep threats (DeSean Jackson and Kenny Stills) and trusty veteran chain-movers (Brandon Marshall and Pierre Garcon). There are also intriguing young players with red flags, such as Kendall Wright and Michael Floyd, who will get second chances. Similar to the pass rushers, there is good depth at wideout in free agency and the draft.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...e-agency-market


So you think some mid-round rookie is gonna make up a guy who put up 1000+ yards with Kessler, RG3, McCown, Hogan, and that Pretty Boy Ex-Clemson QB under center?

Coleman, who has potential to get better, was the first receiver drafted, and didn't get anywhere near Pryor's level.

I just don't see how a team that's 1-15 can move forward when they're letting their best players walk.

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Terrelle Pryor says he’s told agents he wants to stay in Cleveland: ‘I love this place’

http://www.ohio.com/sports/browns/browns...-place-1.737544

Hue Jackson hopes Terrelle Pryor makes the right decision, stays with Browns

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/03/hue_jackson_hopes_terrelle_pry.html

Tell the agent.

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Tell the agent.


The agents work for Pryor, not the other way around. Pryor wants to [rightfully] get paid more than he wants to play for the Cleveland Browns.

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I'm with ya Petey, I wanna keep him.


Agreed. I think that $15 mil would be fine to keep him. I think the WR market will be a little inflated this year and I think he's worth the gamble. Although it's not a bad idea to let someone set a number first... Could very well bite us in the but though.

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[quote=Vambo]

Wide receivers available in all shapes and sizes

Chiefs general manager John Dorsey praised the depth of this rookie receiver class, a common sentiment throughout the week. The depth and variety of the free-agent crop is also better than it is at most positions. There are young players just hitting their prime (Alshon Jeffery and Terrelle Pryor), proven deep threats (DeSean Jackson and Kenny Stills) and trusty veteran chain-movers (Brandon Marshall and Pierre Garcon). There are also intriguing young players with red flags, such as Kendall Wright and Michael Floyd, who will get second chances. Similar to the pass rushers, there is good depth at wideout in free agency and the draft.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...e-agency-market


So you think some mid-round rookie is gonna make up a guy who put up 1000+ yards with Kessler, RG3, McCown, Hogan, and that Pretty Boy Ex-Clemson QB under center?

Coleman, who has potential to get better, was the first receiver drafted, and didn't get anywhere near Pryor's level.

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Brandon Marshal


Brandon Marshall asked to be released by the Jets. He did not do so to go to the Cleveland Browns.

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Tell the agent.


The agents work for Pryor, not the other way around. Pryor wants to [rightfully] get paid more than he wants to play for the Cleveland Browns.


No worries then because...

Terrelle Pryor says he’s told agents he wants to stay in Cleveland: ‘I love this place’

http://www.ohio.com/sports/browns/browns...-place-1.737544

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Tell the agent.


The agents work for Pryor, not the other way around. Pryor wants to [rightfully] get paid more than he wants to play for the Cleveland Browns.


No worries then because...

Terrelle Pryor says he’s told agents he wants to stay in Cleveland: ‘I love this place’

http://www.ohio.com/sports/browns/browns...-place-1.737544


That sounds great on paper. Let's see what he actually does.

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Tell the agent.


The agents work for Pryor, not the other way around. Pryor wants to [rightfully] get paid more than he wants to play for the Cleveland Browns.


No worries then because...

Terrelle Pryor says he’s told agents he wants to stay in Cleveland: ‘I love this place’

http://www.ohio.com/sports/browns/browns...-place-1.737544


Your article is from January.......... Not recent. Not since he's been able to see the offers of other teams and actually picture himself playing somewhere else in their uniform


And Brandon Marshall is 32, a real pain in the butt when things aren't going well, and won't do well here (because of just that). He's much better in a situation like Dallas or Green Bay or New England.


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That was in January .. things may look different to him in March


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Tell the agent.


The agents work for Pryor, not the other way around. Pryor wants to [rightfully] get paid more than he wants to play for the Cleveland Browns.


No worries then because...

Terrelle Pryor says he’s told agents he wants to stay in Cleveland: ‘I love this place’

http://www.ohio.com/sports/browns/browns...-place-1.737544


That sounds great on paper. Let's see what he actually does.


I want him to stay I don't see over over paying him.

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That was in January .. things may look different to him in March



Why?

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