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Guy on local radio just said he wants $13 MIL. Has anyone read that? Ludicrous! I would give 4 years 42-44 million. I can't see him getting much more to be honest
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plus, he only has one year of production
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Hope it is us at a solid figure. Agents can promise players a bunch. Maybe the FO wants to see, and wants TP to see, his FA worth. We should go a bit over in bonus perhaps. But I believe we are willing to go forward with FA if it is too steep.
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Guy on local radio just said he wants $13 MIL. Has anyone read that? Ludicrous!
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actually in the NFL for the most part it is exactly like that..Cash is King..unless you're talking washed up ring chasers. The point is Pryor isnt worth 10+, there are those that are more established that are I guess we're going to have to disagree. If Pryor walks, let's see who comes here to replace him. Because Cash is a big deal, but so is having an established franchise and QB. I mean, if this was the case, every Free Agent would be going to Washington (Seattle), Texas, and Florida, where there's no income tax. And I get it that Miami gets top-notch FA's, but that's a city young folks wanna live in (so it makes sense). But plenty of other places get good free agents as well. I get that you think Pryor isn't worth over 10 million. But like I said, let's see who we can get to replace him if he walks. Because I don't think we're gonna find anyone at his level. Really don't. And I don't want to spend a high draft pick on a receiver, when we should be spending it on other holes, so that's not the answer either. So if TP walks, let's see what FA we can bring in to replace him. That'll be interesting. We have 105 million. We could have at least transition tagged the guy and had him for 13.5 million with the guarantee that we can match another team's offer
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I'd do $13 Million a year for 4 years, but it'd probably have to be structured like Kaepernick's deal where both sides can get out each year.
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actually in the NFL for the most part it is exactly like that..Cash is King..unless you're talking washed up ring chasers. The point is Pryor isnt worth 10+, there are those that are more established that are I guess we're going to have to disagree. If Pryor walks, let's see who comes here to replace him. Because Cash is a big deal, but so is having an established franchise and QB. I mean, if this was the case, every Free Agent would be going to Washington (Seattle), Texas, and Florida, where there's no income tax. And I get it that Miami gets top-notch FA's, but that's a city young folks wanna live in (so it makes sense). But plenty of other places get good free agents as well. I get that you think Pryor isn't worth over 10 million. But like I said, let's see who we can get to replace him if he walks. Because I don't think we're gonna find anyone at his level. Really don't. And I don't want to spend a high draft pick on a receiver, when we should be spending it on other holes, so that's not the answer either. So if TP walks, let's see what FA we can bring in to replace him. That'll be interesting. We have 105 million. We could have at least transition tagged the guy and had him for 13.5 million with the guarantee that we can match another team's offer I was all for transition tag...let another team set his value..but you're making the assumption for FO knows what they are doing, I don't believe they do yet. As far as drafting a WR..alot of teams get their starters later in the draft, just because we suck at picking them doesn't mean they can't be had..lol
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I have no idea what Pryor should get paid, but I do think a lot of people are not factoring in the importance that this was truly his first full year as a WR and that he has a ton of growth potential.
He is a rare athletic specimen and he works hard. Saying he "has only done it for a year" is missing the point, in my opinion. Yes, he has only done it for a year, but the odds are that he is going to actually become a better WR and he is not just a flash in the pan.
I look at it more like..........he did that in his first year. What is he capable of doing in the future?
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Its a very unique situation. Cause he was drafted as a QB so now he is negotiating his 2nd contract but he only has been a WR for a year.
The reason is that he has not shown if he can be that complete WR, he made a lot of mistakes on audibles and recognition as a hot WR or even running his routes effectively. Is he to be rewarded as one of the top WRs in the NFL? If he has been doing it for 3-4 years since being drafted. It would be easy to pay him a boat load of money. And Again there has been no team built around a WR well one that went on to Championships...and don't tell me Rice or something like that it was built around Joe Montana and then Steve Young. And built around a special HC. Calvin of Detroit as good a WR as there could be. I've maintained you need good ones that run excellent routes and have very good hands. But without the QB its a moot point.
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Its a very unique situation. Cause he was drafted as a QB so now he is negotiating his 2nd contract but he only has been a WR for a year.
The reason is that he has not shown if he can be that complete WR, he made a lot of mistakes on audibles and recognition as a hot WR or even running his routes effectively. Is he to be rewarded as one of the top WRs in the NFL? If he has been doing it for 3-4 years since being drafted. It would be easy to pay him a boat load of money. And Again there has been no team built around a WR well one that went on to Championships...and don't tell me Rice or something like that it was built around Joe Montana and then Steve Young. And built around a special HC. Calvin of Detroit as good a WR as there could be. I've maintained you need good ones that run excellent routes and have very good hands. But without the QB its a moot point.
Gordon made an NFL record back to back 200+ games an amazing feat...of course we lost both.
jmho yeah everyone assuming he has growth potential...he's already going to be 28...he's not going to get more athletic. yeah he got 1000 yards, on a team where he was option 1, 2 and 3 because we had noone else to throw to. Consistently made mistakes, bad plays on the ball, sportsmanship issues. Yes he is a physical specimen but there are alot of guys like that. The bottom line needs to be something that allows him to be paid based on production..i'm not throwing big guaranteed money at a 1 year 28 year old WR that just started playing the position. Give him a chance to earn his worth and then it works for both sides.
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+1, good points, plus he had broken finger/s and our QB situation...no state income tax HAS to be factor to protect your family...guess FO will decide if they want to use Mr. H's money on him...all those WR draft picks are suppose to show something years 2 & 3 right...I wouldn't panic, but I'd offer Pryor what the market requires...he played it smart, time will tell.....GO Browns!!!!
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A few things: --People say that guys who are putting up big numbers on other teams wouldn't do as well here because of the supporting cast. Now, we have people saying that Pryor put up big numbers because there was no one else here.  --I never said he would improve athletically. My point is that he will become more polished as a WR over time. That isn't rocket science. --He did NOT make a lot of "bad plays on the ball." In fact, he bailed out Kessler several times on poor throws where he came back and stole the ball from the corner. --I don't think the Browns can afford to lose their only consistent WR. --I do realize it takes both sides to get the contract done, so I am not going to go off like mac will, but I really, really hope we are able to reach an agreement w/Pryor.
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Pryor was targeted twice as much as the next closest reciever on our team..coleman...141 targets to Colemans 73, the 3rd WR was louis at 36. Pryor was ranked 48th in the NFL in yards per catch..but yep let's give him 13 million a year
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There are 10+ WRs usually coming out every season that are first two round picks. It isn't a rare position.
Would you agree we should have at least transition or franchise tagged him so that we only have to worry about our side? And --People say that guys who are putting up big numbers on other teams wouldn't do as well here because of the supporting cast. Now, we have people saying that Pryor put up big numbers because there was no one else here. superconfused This is the thing. I've seen, that with Free Agents, you really just don't know. It's not just supporting staff, it's how they do with a new coaching staff, new home, new many things. That's why I like the idea of drafting, developing guys, and re-signing them. These are guys comfortable with your coaching staff, know your system, comfortable in your locker room, settled in so they can focus on solely football. But that's the thing, re-signing them is key.
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Just remember this.
I want him here. His athleticism is fantastic.
Yes, he bailed out our QB making a play on the ball.
But you have to recognized he was lost at times especially as a HOT WR when teams blitzed which btw was a HECK OF A LOT OF TIMES. Not yelling, emphasizing...lol 
His potential is there. As stated its a very unique position for a 2nd contract. And again, we should not give him stupid money. If he was a one piece we need as a luxury but we just are not at that stage yet.
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Pryor was targeted twice as much as the next closest reciever on our team..coleman...141 targets to Colemans 73, the 3rd WR was louis at 36. Wait! What? You are using that as a negative stat?
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Wait! What? You are using that as a negative stat? lol. It can be. On the Jets, one of the reasons they let Braylon go was because he constantly told Sanchez just to throw him the ball whether he was open or not, lol I don't think this is the case with Pryor though. Coleman missed some games, and generally the guy getting targeted is getting open. Pryor showed that he coudl get separation IMO
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LOL........my point is that you typically throw more passes to your best player.
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j/c: So rumor has it Terrelle is seeking a 4yr/$52M deal. Would put him in Top 7 Average WR Salary per @Spotrac. Steep but worth it IMO. #Browns Guaranteed money would also play a role for me (beyond the annual average) in case he didn't work out.
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Conflicting reports on whether Steelers are interested in Terrelle Pryor ... profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/.../conflicting-reports-on-whether-steelers-are-intereste... 5 hours ago - Not long after a report surfaced that the Steelers are interested in wide receiver Terrelle Pryor, another report said otherwise. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...terrelle-pryor/
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j/c: So rumor has it Terrelle is seeking a 4yr/$52M deal. Would put him in Top 7 Average WR Salary per @Spotrac. Steep but worth it IMO. #Browns Guaranteed money would also play a role for me (beyond the annual average) in case he didn't work out. Agreed. Sign him and let's move on
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Doable I think...13 mil per season. But that is what they are Seeking. We probably made a 10-11 mil a year offer? Who knows. As long as we get a shot to match somebodies offer or surpass them a touch. To me that is a sign of somebody wanting to play for us as Pryor has stated. Give us a shot prior to signing with another team.
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Doable I think...13 mil per season. But that is what they are Seeking. We probably made a 10-11 mil a year offer? Who knows. As long as we get a shot to match somebodies offer or surpass them a touch. To me that is a sign of somebody wanting to play for us as Pryor has stated. Give us a shot prior to signing with another team.
jmho And maybe you commit from $20-$25 million guaranteed (I have no clue where that ranks with other WRs) so in 2019, if he isn't worth it, you cut him without much dead cap $?
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Report: Steelers have 'no interest' in signing Terrelle Pryor A source within the Steelers' organization addressed Cleveland.com's report that the team is interesting in signing free agent WR, Terrelle Pryor. http://pit.247sports.com/Bolt/Report-Steelers-have-no-interest-in-signing-Terrelle-Pryor-51643232Terrelle Pryor will not play for the Pittsburgh Steelers in 2017. According to Gerry Dulac of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, a source within the organization has stated that the team has "no interest" in signing the Browns' receiver "at $10 million plus per season," Pryor's reported starting asking price from potential suitors. On Monday, Cleveland.com included Pittsburgh among five teams that were interested in signing Pryor, who caught 77 passes for 1,004 yards and four touchdowns last season. The other four teams included 49ers, Eagles, Giants, and Titans.
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j/c: So rumor has it Terrelle is seeking a 4yr/$52M deal. Would put him in Top 7 Average WR Salary per @Spotrac. Steep but worth it IMO. #Browns Guaranteed money would also play a role for me (beyond the annual average) in case he didn't work out. Agreed. Sign him and let's move on That seems reasonable to me. Sure, it's high, but the most recent guy to sign a contract will always be a bit more expensive than the guys on active contracts signed in previous seasons.
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the most recent guy to sign a contract will always be a bit more expensive than the guys on active contracts signed in previous seasons. Yep.
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the most recent guy to sign a contract will always be a bit more expensive than the guys on active contracts signed in previous seasons. Yep. Exactly. That's what happens when the cap is always rising
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but that's the thing vers. athletically he's a freak of nature. he doesn't need to improve there, just in his route running and such.
and there's no reason to believe he can't.
people forget that he put up 1000 yards while not only playing with 5 different QB's, but having the play the position a few times himself. he wasn't even allowed to JUST be a WR this season, and still put up those numbers.
imagine his growth when he can just focus on his position with a QB who can actually deliver the ball and not get hurt. my god the potential is scary.
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Pryor was targeted twice as much as the next closest reciever on our team..coleman...141 targets to Colemans 73, the 3rd WR was louis at 36. Wait! What? You are using that as a negative stat? yes i am...I like how you left off the fact he was 48th in yards per catch..proving that while he was pretty much the only option, and when he did catch the ball, he didn't really do much with it..besides run backwards an awful lot.. as I've said, I def. want to keep him if price is right..but 13/year for him is too much imo unless that max potential and he has to earn it.
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Here would be my big question: Will Pryor continue to work on his craft, be a leader, be as competitive, etc once he signs the deal?
Obviously none of us can answer it (maybe Hue would have a better gauge of him personally)
If the answer is yes .. sign him
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Zeitler is one of my big wishes
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Wrong thread.
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There's a general free agency thread, guys . . .
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I took it as he's been linked to the browns today, but Grossi wasn't sure if he's the first person linked this morning. Agreed, I'd pay 10 mill per
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Just told by someone with knowledge of negotiations that #Browns didn't offer Pryor more than $8mil per year. TP reportedly seeking $10mil+ This seems about right.
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Seeking $10M+ offer. Do we match if he gets one?
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It's more about the guarantees. We haven't heard anything about what has been offered in that respect.
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If we got him for 8 that's incredible. Give him 10
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