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Pretty low deal for Britt. I don't think it guarantees Pryor won't return. I am not sure if someone said this but this signing sets TP market price. I doubt he can get too much more than this. I could agree with that. Maybe slightly more but in incentives because eyes more a potential signing than anything.
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Pretty low deal for Britt. I don't think it guarantees Pryor won't return. I am not sure if someone said this but this signing sets TP market price. I doubt he can get too much more than this. He may not get much more than Britt, but I'd bet Pryor gets that money from a team not named the Browns. I would guess, and it's only my opinion, they offered Pryor and Britt the same contract because they think they're about the same player (age, talent, upside, previous years performance, etc.). And it's also a little jab at Rosenhaus for keeping the negotiations going on so long (and probably asking for $15m/year). And now, the Pryor offer has probably been pulled. No way this team is going to sign two WRs at that money in the same offseason. They preach about building through the draft, why would they sign two WRs in free agency? I don't think this is an horrific move, signing Britt over Pryor, but it's probably going to backfire in some way to make us look bad. Like, Pryor will get 1200 yards for Philly and Britt will get 900 for us. Meaning, we won't win this decision.
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Britt's background is a bit shady.
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I hear yesterday on the radio that the Steelers dropped out of the Pryor bidding because his asking number was at 10 mil per.
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Pretty low deal for Britt. I don't think it guarantees Pryor won't return. I am not sure if someone said this but this signing sets TP market price. I doubt he can get too much more than this. He may not get much more than Britt, but I'd bet Pryor gets that money from a team not named the Browns. And now, the Pryor offer has probably been pulled. No way this team is going to sign two WRs at that money in the same offseason. They preach about building through the draft, why would they sign two WRs in free agency? Depending on how the contracts are structured - 4 years turns into 2 years very quickly
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Depending on how the contracts are structured - 4 years turns into 2 years very quickly Oh yeah, of course. It'll be $X guaranteed, $Y signing bonus, $Z roster bonus in year three and then a team option starting year four. Whatever. Yeah, it's a two year deal.  All NFL contracts are like this. People freaked out last year when Tyrod signed his deal in Buffalo, but it was really only a 1-year deal with all the bonus money due this week. They tore up that deal and signed him to a new deal, which is probably a two year deal...but yeah, it'll be reported as a 5 year deal.
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Eagles just signed Torrey Smith...
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And the Giants signed Marshall. Pryor is running out of options. I could see us signing him to a similar contract as Britt still. We have the money and it would remove the need to draft a receiver.
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Guys, I have a feeling Pryor is gone. Talk me off the ledge!
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And the Giants signed Marshall. Pryor is running out of options. I could see us signing him to a similar contract as Britt still. We have the money and it would remove the need to draft a receiver. I'm hoping for this as well. I don't think Britt quite replaces Pryor, but he more than replaces Hawkins. I like the combo of Coleman/Pryor/Britt for both size and speed.
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Guys, I have a feeling Pryor is gone. Talk me off the ledge! I just think it is crazy we are not hearing any rumors of other offers. My hopes are still up I would love to pair Britt, Pryor, and Coleman on the field together.
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Profootballtalk reports the Browns aren't "necessarily" out on free agent Terrelle Pryor after signing Kenny Britt.
Not necessarily, but for all intents and purposes they are. It could lower Pryor's price in free agency, as he no longer has the Browns and their infinite cap space to use as a cudgel. Pryor is supposedly drawing interest from 4-5 other teams.
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Guys, I have a feeling Pryor is gone. Talk me off the ledge! I just think it is crazy we are not hearing any rumors of other offers. My hopes are still up I would love to pair Britt, Pryor, and Coleman on the field together. I don't see how those three fit together on the field at the same time. Has Britt ever played in the slot? Coleman is not a slot receiver, neither is Pryor.
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Pryor may have bid himself out of a deal
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Agree, AND we have vet with about same size who has been a receiver his whole career....smart job by FO....had more TDs than Pryor, almost same yardage, with lousy QBs...GO Browns!!!
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Guys, I have a feeling Pryor is gone. Talk me off the ledge! I just think it is crazy we are not hearing any rumors of other offers. My hopes are still up I would love to pair Britt, Pryor, and Coleman on the field together. I don't see how those three fit together on the field at the same time. Has Britt ever played in the slot? Coleman is not a slot receiver, neither is Pryor. It depends what you are looking for in a slot. If you want Wes Welker, then no. Britt can't get the YAC that Welker can and Pryor isn't a good enough route runner to play slot. However, if you want a possession guy, Britt could definitely play that role and Pryor could as well if his routes improve.
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Profootballtalk reports the Browns aren't "necessarily" out on free agent Terrelle Pryor after signing Kenny Britt.
Not necessarily, but for all intents and purposes they are. It could lower Pryor's price in free agency, as he no longer has the Browns and their infinite cap space to use as a cudgel. Pryor is supposedly drawing interest from 4-5 other teams.
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Browns Daily: "Terrelle Pryor sill in play, despite Britt news. Offer from CLE best on table so far. Market not what he expected."
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Steve Doerschuk‏ @sdoerschukREP 36s36 seconds ago More Browns Daily: "Terrelle Pryor sill in play, despite Britt news. Offer from CLE best on table so far. Market not what he expected." https://twitter.com/sdoerschukREP/status/839899596180623361
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Guys, I have a feeling Pryor is gone. Talk me off the ledge! I just think it is crazy we are not hearing any rumors of other offers. My hopes are still up I would love to pair Britt, Pryor, and Coleman on the field together. I don't see how those three fit together on the field at the same time. Has Britt ever played in the slot? Coleman is not a slot receiver, neither is Pryor. Coleman is 5'11 185 lbs and runs a 4.3, he is built more to be a slot than the other two if push came to shove..he's quick enough. He might actually excel there
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statements like that are dumb...if its best on table so far, and its not about money...why isn't he signed
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Well if it's about the money, then this is his best option. The reality is that it always was.
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I think they mean the browns' best offer is on the table
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I would think that if any Team offered him anything so far, wouldn't we have heard about it? Unless he is just turning down any offer under say 10 mil. We should have heard of something by now.
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I think they mean the browns' best offer is on the table Not the way it reads. I think it means that the Browns offer is the best one TP has received.
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Guys, I have a feeling Pryor is gone. Talk me off the ledge! I just think it is crazy we are not hearing any rumors of other offers. My hopes are still up I would love to pair Britt, Pryor, and Coleman on the field together. I don't see how those three fit together on the field at the same time. Has Britt ever played in the slot? Coleman is not a slot receiver, neither is Pryor. It depends what you are looking for in a slot. If you want Wes Welker, then no. Britt can't get the YAC that Welker can and Pryor isn't a good enough route runner to play slot. However, if you want a possession guy, Britt could definitely play that role and Pryor could as well if his routes improve. Am I being crazy ... did Joe Jurevicius play quite a bit in the slot??? He wouldn't be a prototypical build for a slot guy. I'm stretching my memory here so feel free to correct me if that is not an accurate recollection.
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I think they mean the browns' best offer is on the table Not the way it reads. I think it means that the Browns offer is the best one TP has received. I agree.
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Imo Pryor/Drew thought he was going to get big $$$ in the FA market. So far he hasn't garnered much interest, and Pryor/Drew are waiting to see if that remains the case.....Jefferies having the same issue.
If someone offers more/better situation for similar money he will be gone, and if not he will be back. After last year's debacle I highly doubt the Browns will pull his offer this go around.
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I think they mean the browns' best offer is on the table Not the way it reads. I think it means that the Browns offer is the best one TP has received. If that's true then the "Harvard" guys are actually rewarding their players and not being cheap. Great to hear.
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How do you guys know that Pryor isn't garnering interest?
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I don't know that teams aren't interested (supposedly 4-5 teams are), but it has been reported that the Browns offer is still the best out of the lot....so I am assuming the $$$ isn't what they thought it would be or this would be done already.
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How do you guys know that Pryor isn't garnering interest? Normally agents are leaking offers left and right to garner interest in their players to drive up prices. We haven't heard a peep in numbers. Plus, the Browns can match anyone... so this may be keeping some suitors away.
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Not to my knowledge. He is having the same issues that Pryor is having so they say about thinking the $$$ was going to be more. I think Rapport was saying he is working on a deal to go back to the Bears though.
Crazy that AJ is having trouble getting what he thought and freaking Garcon got 15 million....lol
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If it turns out that the Browns offer ends up, indeed, being the best, does anyone think stubborn pride would get in the way of Pryor accepting it? It could be sort of humbling in a way. Just something that crossed my mind.
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I think it's safer to say that Pryor isn't garnering the interest that he expected/hoped.
One could infer that teams are going through the same exercise on Pryor that we have here on the board. "Is he a true #1 or no?" "Do we pay him on potential?" "How does his 2016 performance (since that's all anyone has on him) translate to the next year, and the year after, and the year after?"
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Not to my knowledge. He is having the same issues that Pryor is having so they say about thinking the $$$ was going to be more. I think Rapport was saying he is working on a deal to go back to the Bears though.
Crazy that AJ is having trouble getting what he thought and freaking Garcon got 15 million....lol He also has a 4 game suspension on his ledger... a risk that teams are pricing in his salary. Don't want to tie up resources in a risky player.
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