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The initial act seemed to take her by surprise. That doesn't scream consent.

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The fact that they have a personal relationship makes me back away from the video entirely. You never know what two people could converse about behind closed doors.

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I don't know if he is guilty, but this guy seems to put himself in some bad situations:

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20086...dent-dallas-bar

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So what happened? All the article says is that some guy was assaulted but the he doesn't know who did it and there are no suspects. How do they know he was involved?


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Here's what Ezekiel Elliott's father told @MerrillLiz last year for ESPN The Magazine:‬
‪"My biggest worry is ... I don't believe my son knows how to navigate in life being a superstar," Stacy says. "He's like a little boy who wants to play football and have fun and enjoy people. We've always said this about Ezekiel, ever since he came into the world. He's just happy to be alive. He's a happy guy. But this world is not."‬


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TMZ Sports has obtained video of the victim moments after he was struck in the face by an assailant at Clutch Bar in Dallas.

The person who shot the video tells us the man was involved in a verbal altercation with a woman who was in Ezekiel's party ... when Ezekiel got involved.

The witness says she saw Ezekiel punch the man -- corroborating the story the victim's friend told police. However, cops at the scene could not confirm Zeke was the attacker and he has not been arrested or charged with a crime.

In the video, you can see the victim writhing in pain on the ground. We're told he was on the ground for a few minutes.

An ambulance arrived to the scene, and you can see the man being treated by paramedics outside the bar. He was transported to a nearby hospital.

Elliott's people will only say the RB was not arrested and no complaint has been filed against him.
We spoke with the NFL -- and we're told the league is now looking into the matter to "understand the facts."


http://www.tmz.com/2017/07/17/ezekiel-elliot-bar-fight-incident/

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Alternate theory:

See Zeke at a bar.

Go Outside.

Punch your friend in the face.

Record video saying it was him.

Profit.


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I kinda hate saying this, but if you are a recognizable athlete, it might be best to stay out of bars. Too many freaks and opportunists out there.

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I kinda hate saying this, but if you are a recognizable athlete, it might be best to stay out of bars. Too many freaks and opportunists out there.


The axiom goes that "nothing good happens after 2 am".

I agree with you, though, that too many bad things can happen at any time in bars, especially to a very, very rich young man.


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Originally Posted By: ThatGuy
Alternate theory:

See Zeke at a bar.

Go Outside.

Punch your friend in the face.

Record video saying it was him.

Profit.


- or -

fame = free passes (at least for awhile)....

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Situation sounds familiar. Haven't we had a few guys like this too that got into trouble? One difference he's more talented than the guys we had.

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What?

I have no idea if he is guilty or innocent, but what evidence do you have that he is guilty?

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KARMA = End up in Cincy or worse. We have had our share. But with so much good around you, this? Judgment is lacking.

Hope Zeke is better than this.


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Originally Posted By: 3rd_and_20
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Alternate theory:

See Zeke at a bar.

Go Outside.

Punch your friend in the face.

Record video saying it was him.

Profit.


- or -

fame = free passes (at least for awhile)....


I don't think most famous people think they get "a free pass"

I think that a lot of "regular people" forget that famous people are just.. people.

If a 20 something is in a bar and someone starts crap. Stuff may go down. Not because he thinks he'll get away with it. But because he's a 20 something and that's just what they do.

And while I'm not saying famous people are always a victim. I think a lot of times people go out of their own way to start things with them.

And our response is apparently that if you're famous. You should just never go out. In case something happens..

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This is Elliott's third questionable incident. I don't know if Elliott has done anything wrong, but it's never a good thing if a player's name comes up in news like this all the time.

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TMZ deals with smut, but their information is usually solid.

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This is Elliott's third questionable incident. I don't know if Elliott has done anything wrong, but it's never a good thing if a player's name comes up in news like this all the time.


I wonder if even Jerrah is starting to feel that way.


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You try too hard at times.

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I thought that Jerry Jones and etc had the "best support system" and etc? Haha, they might need to extend that "support system" Zeke's way. As stated, he just can't stay out of headlines.

Maybe it's time to just stay home and etc, Zeke? Won't be long before you pull a JM and blow it.

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Eyeing McFadden in fantasy now. The guy essentially had the year off last season.


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Dallas police confirm incident at bar, don’t mention Ezekiel Elliott
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ProFootball Talk on NBC Sports•Jul 17, 2017, 10:24 AM

There was a report on Monday morning that Cowboys running back Ezekiel Elliott was involved in an altercation at a Dallas bar on Sunday night which did not result in any arrests and the city’s police department has confirmed that officers did respond to a call regarding a disturbance.

The report, which comes via multiple sources and does not mention Elliott at all, says officers responded to a call to the 2500 block of Cedar Springs Road — the incident allegedly happened at Clutch Bar, which is at 2520 Cedar Springs road — around 9:40 p.m. on Sunday night. A 30-year-old man claimed he had been physically assaulted, but did not know who did it.

“The victim was transported to the hospital for non-life threatening injuries,” the report said. “There were no arrests made for this offense, nor were there anyone listed on the report as a suspect. This investigation is on-going and we will update you as information becomes available.”

Elliott has been under investigation by the league since a domestic violence allegation was made against him last year and recent reports have indicated that a ruling on possible discipline is expected soon.

https://sports.yahoo.com/dallas-police-confirm-incident-bar-142436965.html


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Is it a bad look that he keeps being "involved" in things, of course.

But separately from that.

I don't like that as soon as it was reported, that the NFL was doing their own "investigation" into it.

Let the legal process do their job first why don't you.

I don't think you should get suspended just because your name gets attached to not good things...


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Is it a bad look that he keeps being "involved" in things, of course.

But separately from that.

I don't like that as soon as it was reported, that the NFL was doing their own "investigation" into it.

Let the legal process do their job first why don't you.

I don't think you should get suspended just because your name gets attached to not good things...


I agree. And by the same token, he hasn't been suspended yet, has he? Nothing has been settled in court, has it?

It's like in the political forums: "Trump MAY be guilty of"...and then they go on and on.

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'Dallas police suspend probe into incident involving Elliott'

https://www.yahoo.com/news/dallas-police...26604--spt.html
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'Dallas police suspend probe into incident involving Elliott'

https://www.yahoo.com/news/dallas-police...26604--spt.html
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Apparently the NFL is still investigating this, so this doesn't mean Zeke's outta the clear yet.

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That's the problem with the NFL. They think they're above the law.


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'Dallas police suspend probe into incident involving Elliott'

https://www.yahoo.com/news/dallas-police...26604--spt.html
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Apparently the NFL is still investigating this, so this doesn't mean Zeke's outta the clear yet.


Wouldn't Zeke want to be in "the clear?" wink grin

It's "outta the woods," bro.

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Well you can't see the sky clearly when you're in the woods. You have to get out of the woods to be in the clear.


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League office apparently leaks details of looming Ezekiel Elliott suspension

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...ott-suspension/

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Cowboys' Ezekiel Elliott suspended six games by NFL



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Published: Aug. 11, 2017 at 12:14 p.m. Updated: Aug. 11, 2017 at 12:20 p.m.
The NFL suspended Dallas Cowboys running back Ezekiel Elliott six games Friday for violating the league's personal-conduct policy, a source informed of the situation told NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport.

The ruling comes after the NFL's year-long investigation into multiple incidents involving Elliott, including domestic violence accusations made against him by a woman who identified herself as his former girlfriend to authorities.

Elliott, 22, has denied the allegations and has the right to appeal the NFL's decision. He has three days to appeal. If the six-game suspension stands, Elliott would be eligible to make his season debut Oct. 29 against the Washington Redskins.

ESPN first reported the development.

The woman told police Elliott assaulted her on five separate occasions over the course of a week in July 2016, according to the Columbus (Ohio) City Attorney's Office. He was never arrested and prosecutors declined to charge Elliott, citing conflicting and inconsistent information.

Under the terms of the NFL's personal conduct policy, players found by the league to have committed domestic violence are subject to "a baseline suspension without pay of six games" regardless of whether "the conduct does not result in a criminal conviction."

The policy states: "In cases where a player is not charged with a crime, or is charged but not convicted, he may still be found to have violated the policy if the credible evidence establishes that he engaged in conduct prohibited by this Personal Conduct Policy."

Robert S. Tobias, principal assistant city attorney in Columbus, stated in an email to NFL Network's Tom Pelissero last year he believed "there were a series of interactions between Mr. Elliott and [his accuser] where violence occurred."

"... Given the totality of the circumstances, I could not firmly conclude exactly what happened," Tobias wrote in October. "Saying something happened versus having sufficient evidence to criminally charge someone are two completely different things."

The NFL launched its investigation soon after Elliott's ex-girlfriend filed a police report last summer. League investigators first interviewed Elliott in October and met with him again last month. Elliott and the NFL Players Association turned over phone records and documents related to the case to the league in May.

It wasn't the only incident the NFL looked into involving Elliott. The same woman called police on Elliott in Feb. 2016 in Florida, where the former Ohio State star was training prior to the NFL Scouting Combine, sources with knowledge of the situation told Pelissero. She told police she suffered shoulder pain when Elliott pushed her up against a wall. Elliott wasn't arrested or charged.

In March of this year, Elliott was seen in videos and photos pulling down a woman's shirt and exposing her breast on the roof of a Dallas bar during a St. Patrick's Day parade. Last month, Elliott was involved in an incident at another Dallas bar that initially sparked an assault investigation before police suspended their probe. That incident, however, was not part of the NFL's completed probe, a source with knowledge of the investigation told Rapoport and Pelissero.

Elliott is in his second season with the Cowboys after rushing for 1,631 yards and 15 touchdowns en route to earning first-team All-Pro honors in 2016.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...p;sf105388653=1


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On one hand it's the NFL, so they probably botched this. On the other hand, they are probably trying really hard not to botch this.

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Here is the full letter from the NFL to the Ezekiel Elliott regarding their investigation and suspension.

Looks like her beat her on several occasions.

NFL Letter to Zeke Re: Investigation and Findings


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Goodell hates a rockstar. I'm sure Goodell considered his bar fight as well. Sending a stern message that offseason distractions and possible crimes will not be tolerated at the league level.

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On one hand it's the NFL, so they probably botched this. On the other hand, they are probably trying really hard not to botch this.


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I'd bet Roger wasn't even involved in the investigation or decision and yet everyone will blame him for abusing his power.


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On one hand it's the NFL, so they probably botched this. On the other hand, they are probably trying really hard not to botch this.


+1

I'd bet Roger wasn't even involved in the investigation or decision and yet everyone will blame him for abusing his power.


You may want to read the letter in the link I posted. Not sure how this letter got leaked.

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Goodell hates a rockstar. I'm sure Goodell considered his bar fight as well. Sending a stern message that offseason distractions and possible crimes will not be tolerated at the league level.


It seems like they have actual evidence of abuse also. If that's the case, then I would like to see him gone longer than six games.

Elliott seems to be a buffoon. If you are under investigation for domestic violence, you should probably lay low in the off-season.

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On one hand it's the NFL, so they probably botched this. On the other hand, they are probably trying really hard not to botch this.


+1

I'd bet Roger wasn't even involved in the investigation or decision and yet everyone will blame him for abusing his power.


You may want to read the letter in the link I posted. Not sure how this letter got leaked.


I believe the NFL released it. Not leaked. If it was leaked, it's not surprising, alls it takes is someone forwarding an email to Schefter.

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
On one hand it's the NFL, so they probably botched this. On the other hand, they are probably trying really hard not to botch this.


+1

I'd bet Roger wasn't even involved in the investigation or decision and yet everyone will blame him for abusing his power.


You may want to read the letter in the link I posted. Not sure how this letter got leaked.


I read it.

It wasn't written by Roger. Also, the investigation was spearheaded by "MEMBERS OF THE EXTERNAL EXPERT ADVISORY PANEL".

- PETER HARVEY, Esq., former Attorney General for the State of New Jersey.
- KEN HOUSTON, member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame, who played in 14 seasons in the NFL.
- TONYA LOVELACE, MA, Chief Executive Officer of The Women of Color Network, Inc.
- MARY JO WHITE, Esq., former United States attorney and former Chair of the Securities and Exchange Commission

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/cowbo...ly-will-appeal/

But most NFL fans will make you believe Roger came up with this punishment over the weekend while twisting his mustache and laughing maniacally.


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But most NFL fans will make you believe Roger came up with this punishment over the weekend while twisting his mustache and laughing maniacally.


That is probably how he came up with the punishment. That doesn't mean the investigation wasn't thorough.

Like I said before, if he beat this woman, then he should be suspended more than six games.

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