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a 2nd round pick for Crow? Do it in a heart beat. it's a deep RB class and Crow can be easily replaced

Earlier I said I wanted Crow. I came back here because after more thought, I agree. Getting the pick fits the mold.

Duke is a good back and I think the team is high on Darrius Jackson who we plucked from Dallas. As you said, this is a good back class. We can find another back to fill in to be a part if a 1800 yard ground game.

If we want a shot at JG, we have to have picks. Give the Pats #12 and two 2nd rounders. He can forget Garrett.

We suffered through last season. We deserve Garrett. He is the prize, but a prize Bill better not get.

Take a 2nd for Crow. That would give us three 2nd rounders this year.

Agreed. I would like to see Duke touch the ball more.

Crowell is a great back when he runs hard and with purpose. Unfortunately he only does that about 30% of the time.

Guys I disagree. We are really gonna miss crow if he bounces. The guy put up good numbers behind - and let's be honest here - a craptastic o line throughout the season.

Let crow run behind this line and watch him rack up 1400 +

Not to mention a passing game that scared no one.

j/c:

Why trade him for a 2nd round pick and then draft a RB high? LOL...that makes no sense to me.

Let a proven talent leave, to pick up a hope and dream? Makes sense. Not.


If it actually comes down to it, bc as of right now, no one has made an offer. But keep the Crow.

It depends on how good U think Crow is Vers ... U think he's better than I do ... i think he's an average back that is easily replaced ..... i also think he's lazy and am afraid he's going to go back to the underachieving bum he was in his non contract years ...

I'd say Crow is an average starting NFL back. He'd start for 1/2 the teams (well, maybe). In my mind, if we'd get a 2nd round pick it has more value than Crow does. RBs are the easiest position to replace

I don't think he's average.

He was the #1 RB in the country at one point if I recall.

But a move like this would lead me to believe Fournette at 12 is a legit possibility.

A few things:

--I do not see the logic in creating needs when you have a team that is full of needs.

--I do not want to have to waste a high pick on a RB. This is a great defensive draft and I don't see a 3-down back in this years RB class.

--You say Crow is lazy. I say you are crazy. He came here as an undrafted free agent. The Browns moved up in the third round to draft West, thus he was ahead of Crow on the depth chart. We also had that dude from Houston..what was his name???? I forget. Anyway, he was supposed to be our #1 back. West and Crow eventually supplanted him and we released the Houston dude ---oh yeah---Tate. Ben Tate, the guy everyone thought was going to be a savior. Crow got more touches, but West was still got more carries.

Crow eventually won the full time job in the following year, but he didn't get a ton of carries when Flip was here. The latter admitted that he would abandon the running game as soon as it got stuffed.

Hue is the first guy to really go w/Crow. But even you have said that Hue didn't run the ball enough. I think the correlation between Crown's numbers and his pending free agency is fueled more by circumstances out of his control than him being lazy and only trying this past year.

I agree with not picking a RB with a 2nd rounder we might get for him, but using it on a safety or perhaps one of the TE's (Njoku? Engram?) and then picking up a back in the ~4th (Foreman? Perine?) makes some sense to me.

I won't be upset if Crow stays, but he will be a FA next season. I don't think he'd give us a hometown discount. If we can get a 2nd, I think about it pretty hard.

Cuz draft picks are more fun, man! More interesting than a guy who's already proven himself in the NFL. If we get lucky we can have three or four hundred draft picks this year and next!

The funny thing is I agree with that as well. I don't really want him to go.

In the end I don't think anyone will give up a 2nd rounder, so there won't be any mixed emotions to deal with.

I agree with the 1400+ comment only if Hue mades up his mind the guy needs to carry the ball 20 times a game and not 11.

wrong thread

THIS!

Suppose they believe, for example, LeGarrette Blount or Eddie Lacey are equal to Isaiah Crowell and attainable in FA. Accepting a 2nd rounder for Crow and signing one of the aforementioned might make some sense if their contract was structured so that it was heavily incentive laden, although we would probably have to offer more than we are currently paying Crowell. Just a thought. I would agree though I don't like the idea of creating a whole just to have to fill it through the draft.

Who else is available FA

Running backs or in general?

at the RB position (if we were to trade Crow for a pick)

There a ton of veteran guys. Adrian Peterson, Jamal Charles, Latavius Murray, DeAngelo Williams, Chris Johnson, and many more (I don't think the first two guys listed would ever sign with us).

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/running-back/available/

Eddie Lacy just signed with the Seahawks.

https://twitter.com/_SportsTrust/status/841682842623062016

thanks

I just told my brother (packer fan) about Lacy to Seattle.

"Thank you god"

Not sure why were not in on this guy ... he's good ...

Yahoo Sports' Eric Edholm reports the Texans are interested in Patriots restricted free agent

Malcolm Butler, and would be willing to trade a second-round pick.
The Texans traded their 2018 second-rounder in the Brock Osweiler asset dump, but still have their 2017 second-rounder. Edholm concedes the second-rounder in and of itself probably wouldn't be enough to get a deal done. Butler is visiting the Saints on Thursday, and has begun negotiations with the team. There's a real chance he signs an offer sheet elsewhere with the understanding a trade will be worked out.
Related: Texans

Source: Eric Edholm on Twitter Mar 14 - 1:29 PM

It is all probably a moot point about Crow because no team is going to give up a 2nd rounder for a RB.

If they did, it wouldn't be a big deal for me because we could find equal or better at lower than a second round choice in the draft.

Which is why no one will give up a 2nd rounder for him.

One of our more highly regarded posters did tell us that the Browns were in love with Alvin Kamara, who should be there in the second.

Of course if The Crow leaves Cleveland, his vertigo problems will be solved, and he will be able to run through a hole instead of tripping through one. It's just our luck.

j/c
Nate Urlich:

Browns have claimed WR James Wright off waivers from Cincinnati.

Kirk Cousins - QB - Redskins

Profootballtalk reports there's a "growing belief" in league circles the Browns could pursue Redskins franchise player Kirk Cousins.

Per a league source, Cousins' concern upon signing the franchise tag was that he could be traded, "specifically" to Cleveland. The Browns have the cap space, draft picks and need to pursue a deal. Were Cousins to be acquired without a long-term contract already in tow, the sides would have until July 15 to come to an agreement. Although he's tried to tamp down the speculation in recent days, Cousins appears bitterly unhappy in Washington.

Related: Browns

Source: Profootballtalk on NBCSports.com Mar 14 - 4:29 PM

It would make no sense to trade for Cousins if he won't sign an extension. We would have to franchise him and then pay him $30 million (and not have him long term still).

Didn't we trade for Collins and work it out at end of his contract?

This is a different situation. Cousins is trying to force his way to Shanahan. Not to mention the compensation would be much greater.

They said on WKNR that it could be a 3 team trade with the Redskins getting our 12 and and 2nd we got from Houston while SF gets Cousins an we get SF's #2 pick which gives us the top 2 picks in this draft ... I think I would make that trade

think of the tradeback opportunities.

Why wouldn't Washington just take the #2 pick? That makes no sense.

If we could sign Cousins to a contract extension, I would be thrilled w/acquiring him. He is a legit starting qb who should keep improving.

People are getting excited about the other rumor. Draft choices and trade-back possibilities....LOL. Sometimes, Brown's fans think so small.

We now have two possibilities. Cousins and Jimmy G. I would be thrilled w/either.

QB problem finally solved.

Pipedream!!!!