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Maybe we can trade him and Brock as a package, along with a 5th for a 3rd?


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Originally Posted By: WSU Willie
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Comparing Gordon's situation to LeBron is absurd.


True that...the NBA doesn't bother to test for marijuana.


Are you saying LeBron smokes marijuana?

Has LeBron ever had a DUI?

Does LeBron hang around known criminals and drug dealers?

Has LeBron been suspended for Purple Drank?

Has LeBron posted pictures of himself w/pipes and pill bottles?

I know you thought yo were being cute, but you are coming across as being terribly uninformed.

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Maybe we can trade him and Brock as a package, along with a 5th for a 3rd?

I can see a team actually brainstorming that idea, my first thought was the jets as the perfect destination. It would of already been done if sexy rexy was still in charge, lol.


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I can see BB wanting to take a shot at him


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Comparing Gordon's situation to LeBron is absurd.


True that...the NBA doesn't bother to test for marijuana.


Are you saying LeBron smokes marijuana?

Has LeBron ever had a DUI?

Does LeBron hang around known criminals and drug dealers?

Has LeBron been suspended for Purple Drank?

Has LeBron posted pictures of himself w/pipes and pill bottles?

I know you thought yo were being cute, but you are coming across as being terribly uninformed.


If the NFL didn't have the ridiculous marijuana testing that it has/had, we wouldn't even be talking about a suspension. The NBA puts up with a lot more shenanigans than does the NFL. There are many differences between the two entities. It is what it is.

He's a dipstick...no doubt...he did this to himself and has no one to blame but himself...but he's not a criminal menace to society...he's not out beating up his girlfriend..he's not the monster that some people want to portray him as being (not saying you are one of those people).

Leveon Bell "misses" a drug test and the blame is put on "the process". Josh has a positive AND negative test from the same bottle of pee and he's a monster.

I'm just trying to keep it real.

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j/c...
but on your comment of the Maryjane rules.
If the NFL had their current policy in place when he failed the Weed test by the slimmest margins he would never have been suspended and would have passed for 2 years to put him out of the DefCom 5 he was in. wink

My hopes is that he comes back and stay cleans. Kicks butt for the 2017 season so that we don't even think about Pryor regardless of what he does. I like the idea of Britt, Coleman and Gordon out there.

Next year we put the RFA tender on him and surely somebody is going to sign him...that will be our time for a decision...take the draft pick as compensation or match the offer.

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Maybe we can trade him and Brock as a package, along with a 5th for a 3rd?


I'd be all over that deal, and it's very reasonable. As Kaz said above, Jets came to my mind too.

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I'd rather Josh Gordon never play a down here then get traded for a 3rd day pick and watch him resume his all pro career with a different team.

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It doesn't matter how ridiculous marijuana rules are enforced. Which by the way, many companies have strict policies against usage. It is no secrete or sudden rule change. NFL always very much against drug usage. I also don't think NFL wants to monitor a list of good vs bad drugs. Much easier saying no drugs which is what a lot of corporations resort to.

Flash broke a rule. He is lucky to even be eligible to return.

I thought the statement fans will continue to be outrage if he returns was a little over the top. I would bet most fans don't care. He returns and becomes a starter...all good.

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A rule which has already been changed since his last suspension...

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j/c:

I provided articles and I guess no one read them, but we really don't know the exact details of why Gordon was suspended each time. We only know what Gordon's side tells us.

He tells us it's cough medicine, 4 drinks, and weed. But, we really don't know if those things are true or not.

I think transferring the blame from Josh to the NFL is unfair.

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A rule which has already been changed since his last suspension...
In the end, NFL made pretty clear their intention. Any drug usage is not acceptable. If you are caught, you will suffer consequences.

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A rule which has already been changed since his last suspension...
In the end, NFL made pretty clear their intention. Any drug usage is not acceptable. If you are caught, you will suffer consequences.


Consequences that have been changed after the Steelers almost lost two major playmakers on the team...

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A rule which has already been changed since his last suspension...
In the end, NFL made pretty clear their intention. Any drug usage is not acceptable. If you are caught, you will suffer consequences.


Consequences that have been changed after the Steelers almost lost two major playmakers on the team...

Why does this matter? A company can handle how ever it wants. It is not the government.

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I'm just pretty sick of the NFL being super arbitrary in their punishments. I'm tired of them picking winners and losers to sell a product. If I wanted that I'd just rewatch the NBA draft lottery.

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Not only that..........CHS doesn't even have his facts straight. I'll post yet another article, which will be ignored, by the "Poor, poor Josh" posters, but it's here for those of you who have an open mind:

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NFL reinstates Josh Gordon; he can be with Browns during 4-game ban

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Cleveland Browns wide receiver Josh Gordon has been reinstated on a conditional basis from his indefinite suspension for multiple drug violations.

The NFL announced Gordon's reinstatement Monday, saying he will be suspended for the first four games of the regular season. He will be allowed to join the Browns at their training camp, which starts Thursday, and can participate in all team meetings and activities.


"With the league's decision to afford Josh the opportunity to resume his career, he will be with us for the start of training camp," Browns EVP of Football Operations Sashi Brown said in a statement. "At that time, we will discuss directly with Josh the direction of our team, our expectations of our players and a plan to support him on and off the field."

Gordon will be permitted to remain with his team during his four-game suspension, his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, said.

Later Monday, Gordon took to Twitter to convey his gratitude for getting yet another chance.

I'm blessed and grateful to be granted this opportunity. I can't wait to get back out there and play the game I... https://t.co/1xehJ840fH

— Flash Gordon (@JOSH_GORDONXII) July 25, 2016
This is a unique situation, unlike other suspended players such as Tom Brady, who are banned from any football-related activities with their team during suspension. Any player suspended for performance-enhancing drugs or personal conduct policy violations have to stay away from the team, but there has been some leeway given to players on substance abuse suspensions, and commissioner Roger Goodell deemed this one of those cases.

"The last few times Josh was suspended, he couldn't be with the team, and that was counterproductive," Rosenhaus said. "This is a great change, the fact that he can stay with the team during the suspension. Commissioner Goodell believes the ability for Josh to work with the team during his suspension will help him. He went outside the norm in this case."

Rosenhaus said Goodell went one step further, and he said the commissioner told him that he hopes this unique change in the policy will help bridge the gap between the NFL and NFLPA, and allow them to craft a policy that will further help the players.


Browns giving Josh Gordon the chance to revive his career
Josh Gordon will be given the chance to prove himself again in Cleveland, but the onus to prove the Browns were right to give him the chance is clearly on him, writes Pat McManamon.

NFL's decision on Gordon gives Browns time to observe, learn
The NFL allowing Josh Gordon to practice and play in the preseason gives the Browns the opportunity to evaluate the wideout and see just where he is before making a decision, Pat McManamon writes.
"Both sides believe the program can be improved," Rosenhaus said.

While some have speculated that Gordon could be traded, Rosenhaus believes the Browns plan to retain Gordon, not trade him, and try to bring out all his potential.

"It's my strong impression that Josh and the Browns are determined to work together," Rosenhaus said. "From our standpoint, we're committed to working with the Browns to work with guys like Hue [Jackson] and Al [Saunders]. Josh is good friends with RG III and Corey Coleman. He's had a great friend in Joe Haden, who has been in his corner. He's excited to get back. Hopefully the only stories about Josh from now on will be about him scoring touchdowns and having big games."

Haden tweeted support to Gordon on Monday.

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The league also announced that Gordon will be eligible to play in all of Cleveland's preseason games once his clinical resources in Cleveland are confirmed. He will be eligible to return from his four-game suspension on Oct. 3.

Goodell wrote a letter to Gordon on Monday, saying he has "every belief that [Gordon] will make the right choices."

"As we discussed at our [July 19] meeting, as Commissioner, I want nothing more than to see you turn your circumstances around and succeed," Goodell wrote to Gordon. "Countless others including your agent, teammates and coaches, Mr. Haslam and the leadership of the organization, the Program professionals and Jim Brown also have pledged to provide you with every resource at their disposal. But as you acknowledged, ultimately, your future is your responsibility. I have every belief that you can make the right choices, but it will be up to you to do so."

Gordon was suspended two games in 2013, 10 games in 2014 and for the entire 2015 season for violating the NFL's substance abuse policy.

He was denied reinstatement in April after reports he failed a drug test because of diluted samples that also tested positive for marijuana. The level of marijuana did not meet the NFL's threshold for suspension, but the diluted samples are considered the same as a positive test.

At the time, sources told ESPN's Adam Schefter that Gordon's possible reinstatement would be delayed until the league feels comfortable that he has 60-90 days of no "red-flag tests."

The Browns have continually said they will not address Gordon's situation until the league decides whether Gordon will be reinstated. The Browns would then sit down and talk with Gordon and assess his frame of mind and attitude before making any decision on taking him back.


If the Browns retain Gordon, his first regular-season game would be against the New England Patriots in Week 5 -- the same day Brady would be eligible to return from his four-game Deflategate suspension.

Gordon, 25, has 161 receptions for 2,754 yards and 14 touchdowns in 35 career games, all with the Browns. He emerged as one of the NFL's top receivers in his Pro Bowl 2013 season, when he had a league-leading 1,646 receiving yards and caught nine touchdowns.

"He is family," new Browns QB Robert Griffin III said of Gordon. "I am happy for him."

Asked if he thought Gordon could stay on track, Griffin said: "I believe he can if he wants to. We will all be there for him."

ESPN's Adam Schefter, Pat McManamon and Josina Anderson contributed to this report.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17140...nditional-basis


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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
Not only that..........CHS doesn't even have his facts straight.


Which of my facts aren't straight? Prove me wrong, tough guy. Why are you always looking for a fight? I'm not even defending Josh and haven't since he checked himself into rehab last year.

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I'm not sure how pointing out Josh Gordon got to be with the team invalidates the truth about Leveon Bell. When two things happen they don't cancel each other out. Guess what? The NFL has a major discipline issues -- in how they discipline player and teams. It's not a shocking revelation.

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Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
I'm not sure how pointing out Josh Gordon got to be with the team invalidates the truth about Leveon Bell. When two things happen they don't cancel each other out. Guess what? The NFL has a major discipline issues -- in how they discipline player and teams. It's not a shocking revelation.

...major discipline issues...? By whose standards?

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I'm not sure how pointing out Josh Gordon got to be with the team invalidates the truth about Leveon Bell. When two things happen they don't cancel each other out. Guess what? The NFL has a major discipline issues -- in how they discipline player and teams. It's not a shocking revelation.


...major discipline issues...? By whose standards?


Everyone's?

They've basically botched every major disciplinary issue since Goodell took over.

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I'm not sure how pointing out Josh Gordon got to be with the team invalidates the truth about Leveon Bell. When two things happen they don't cancel each other out. Guess what? The NFL has a major discipline issues -- in how they discipline player and teams. It's not a shocking revelation.


...major discipline issues...? By whose standards?


Everyone's?

They've basically botched every major disciplinary issue since Goodell took over.

I don't see the NFL different than any other company.

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So you've never complained about a company before? Beware you are on a Cleveland Browns website.

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If you can't give up drugs to make millions of dollars you don't deserve the privilege to play in the NFL. Period.


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So you've never complained about a company before? Beware you are on a Cleveland Browns website.

Yes. I spoke up. I left and went elsewhere. Other times, good out weighed the bad and I adapted.

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Yup.. pretty much this. It's Win-Win for us.

IF he makes it back, we are better off for it.
If he doesn't, then it is no different that where we are now..... there is no down side.


It's not a win win. We aren't better off with JG. We weren't better off for having JG before and we won't be better off having him again. He has had his chances to make it here. He's lied to us all. He's had his wake up call before. He's had time to make this a win win but chooses to other road. He's failed every time. He's done playing for the Browns. It's all over but the paperwork for Flash here.


Man, the hatrid for this guy...wow

No question he's a child. He can't be trusted, but a healthy Gordon, a clean and sober Gordon, can make any team better. ANY!

I honestly don't think we need to worry about it, I doubt he stays clean so there is no decision to make.


A lot of fans hated Lebron then he came back...everyone forgot about the hate!! IF Josh returns and becomes the star everyone thought, I'll bet many forget the issue.


Lebron wasn't suspended multiple times. Not even a close comparison. Besides I know first hand that the Cleveland Browns fans won't ever forget anything!


If I'm understanding, you are saying if Flash returns and becomes a starter fans will remain upset and want him gone regardless. If so, I find that hard to believe.


Believe it. Maybe not all but a huge portion of fans will never forget how he let us all down. It will take a mild miracle for Josh to make it back onto a NFL playing field. Besides if I was the head coach I wouldn't give him a chance to destroy my locker room. Bye Bye Josh you just couldn't keep it real.


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If you can't give up drugs to make millions of dollars you don't deserve the privilege to play in the NFL. Period.


Yep.

I have a friend who used to get high every weekend. He got a job at the Post Office, and they require regular drug screens, so he had to give it up.

We all make our own choices, and in many ways, our choices make us.


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I volunteer not to toke for half the money. This is an issue I have trouble believing, that with these rules, they still mess up. What an opportunity wasted (pun!).


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Until these guys prove they know what to do with a mid-round pick, I am not for trading even JG for picks. We don't need five more WRs that can't play.

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Until these guys prove they know what to do with a mid-round pick, I am not for trading even JG for picks. We don't need five more WRs that can't play.

Yeah by all means we should keep the one WR that we can't even send out on the field and who has been suspended from the NFL nearly every year since we drafted him. tongue
If there is a team that wants him that badly enough for a 2nd or a 3rd let em have him. IMO he's done with the NFL. We need to cut all ties with Josh. He's had more than his share of chances here, and blew it.


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Until these guys prove they know what to do with a mid-round pick, I am not for trading even JG for picks. We don't need five more WRs that can't play.

Yeah by all means we should keep the one WR that we can't even send out on the field and who has been suspended from the NFL nearly every year since we drafted him. tongue
If there is a team that wants him that badly enough for a 2nd or a 3rd let em have him. IMO he's done with the NFL. We need to cut all ties with Josh. He's had more than his share of chances here, and blew it.


Why do we need to do anything.. He can't go to another team, we don't have to pay him.

In other words, no harm to us.. Not at all.


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I had forgotten about this thread and JG until I saw it popup today, I was hoping to only hear about Josh when he is reinstated and practicing with the Browns, please if possible delete this thread !!! thumbsdown


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Until these guys prove they know what to do with a mid-round pick, I am not for trading even JG for picks. We don't need five more WRs that can't play.

Yeah by all means we should keep the one WR that we can't even send out on the field and who has been suspended from the NFL nearly every year since we drafted him. tongue
If there is a team that wants him that badly enough for a 2nd or a 3rd let em have him. IMO he's done with the NFL. We need to cut all ties with Josh. He's had more than his share of chances here, and blew it.


Why do we need to do anything.. He can't go to another team, we don't have to pay him.

In other words, no harm to us.. Not at all.




We can't do anything until he's reinstated. In other words it harms the Browns only, not Josh.

You do realize the NFL will probably wait until sometime after the draft and before game 1 to even consider reinstating Josh. Josh continues to let us all down. But yeah by all means we need him back asap so he can let us all down again soon.


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I don't see how he hurts the Browns at all.

He's not taking a roster spot.

He's not costing us 1 cent.

He may never get re-instated, and if that's the case, the Browns lose nothing.

No one will give us a 2nd or 3rd round pick for him.

The only way he hurts the Browns is if they flat out release him AND he gets signed, AND he gets re-instated, AND he plays against us.

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[quote=The Big G]Until these guys prove they know what to do with a mid-round pick, I am not for trading even JG for picks. We don't need five more WRs that can't play.

Yeah by all means we should keep the one WR that we can't even send out on the field and who has been suspended from the NFL nearly every year since we drafted him. tongue
If there is a team that wants him that badly enough for a 2nd or a 3rd let em have him. IMO he's done with the NFL. We need to cut all ties with Josh. He's had more than his share of chances here, and blew it.


Why do we need to do anything.. He can't go to another team, we don't have to pay him.

In other words, no harm to us.. Not at all.




We can't do anything until he's reinstated. In other words it harms the Browns only, not Josh.

You do realize the NFL will probably wait until sometime after the draft and before game 1 to even consider reinstating Josh. Josh continues to let us all down. But yeah by all means we need him back

I'm sorry Perfect, but I don't see how it hurts the Browns at all... not even a little. He's not being paid, there isn't a roster spot being held and I doubt seriously that any member of this team give a damn what happens to him at this point so it can't be affecting team moral or anything like that.

I don't know if you are right about him needing to be reinstated before we can make any move, but if you are, then I'm more confused why you'd talk of dumping him or as you put it:

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We need to cut all ties with Josh. He's had more than his share of chances here, and blew it.


And honestly,who in their right mind is going to trade a ham sandwich for him?


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I don't see how he hurts the Browns at all.

He's not taking a roster spot.

He's not costing us 1 cent.

He may never get re-instated, and if that's the case, the Browns lose nothing.

No one will give us a 2nd or 3rd round pick for him.

The only way he hurts the Browns is if they flat out release him AND he gets signed, AND he gets re-instated, AND he plays against us.


Again the Browns are strapped to Josh until he's reinstated. Hippa laws. (Hurts the Browns) The FO has their hands tied and can't make roster decisions based on Josh's suspension status. (Hurts the Browns) They can't trade or release him until he's reinstated. (Hurts the Browns) Just being associated with Josh Gordon. (Hurts the Browns)


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With the only possible exception being the last one, none of those things hurt the Browns in any way.


There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.

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I disagree. The Browns are not "strapped" to Gordon.

Gordon costs us nothing. We make NO roster moves according to Gordon. NONE.

He's not taking a roster spot, he's not even taking a practice squad spot. He costs us absolutely 0, no matter how you slice it.


Gordon IS strapped to the Browns. It costs him everything.

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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
I don't see how he hurts the Browns at all.

He's not taking a roster spot.

He's not costing us 1 cent.

He may never get re-instated, and if that's the case, the Browns lose nothing.

No one will give us a 2nd or 3rd round pick for him.

The only way he hurts the Browns is if they flat out release him AND he gets signed, AND he gets re-instated, AND he plays against us.


Again the Browns are strapped to Josh until he's reinstated. Hippa laws. (Hurts the Browns) The FO has their hands tied and can't make roster decisions based on Josh's suspension status. (Hurts the Browns) They can't trade or release him until he's reinstated. (Hurts the Browns) Just being associated with Josh Gordon. (Hurts the Browns)



None of what you just said hurts the browns in the least..,,

Hippa Laws don't hurt the Browns.

While they are strapped to Josh until he's reinstated, he has no bearing on the roster, he doesn't even take up a roster spot and he has no cost associated with his contract.

Maybe they can't trade him until he's reinstated, but who would want him. He can't contribute at this point.

And since he costs nothing, since he doesn't take up a roster spot, since we can't cut him or trade him, why do you care so much... Why worry about it.

If and/or when the NFL reinstates Gordon I'm guessing they'll cut him with no regrets.. That's just my guess. If you need to see what these guys think (in the FO), look no further than Schwartz last year and Pryor this year. It's not wise to try to play hardball with this FO.. they don't seem to flinch.






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Yes, I forgot to even address the HIPPA law. How does that hurt the Browns?

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