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Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
Weak leader. Won't even defend himself.

Although I never thought about the idea of Republicans being so on bored to blame our closest ally for wiretapping the Trump Tower. But cannot understand that Russia hacked the DNC.


Do we have any true allies now? Even Russia has recoiled into their den of hibernation.


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A lie, is a lie, is a lie. Way too late for an a apology now. I'm sure Obama and co. knows he'll never get one anyways.


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Originally Posted By: PerfectSpiral
A lie, is a lie, is a lie. Way too late for an a apology now. I'm sure Obama and co. knows he'll never get one anyways.



Trump still not taking ownership of his false tweeted comment on wire tapping. He's now diverting reporters back to FOX news for explanation on Judge Napolitano's apparently false reports of the sources claiming Obama was involving the British in spying on Trump. The beat goes on.


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He always has to blame someone else. It's what he does.


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"On wiretapping by this past administration, at least we have something in common, perhaps," Trump said to Merkel.

As Trump made that comment, the Department of Justice said it turned over information the intelligence committees sought on possible surveillance during the election. It is not clear yet what that information shows.

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/17/trump-dou...on-perhaps.html

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
"On wiretapping by this past administration, at least we have something in common, perhaps," Trump said to Merkel.

As Trump made that comment, the Department of Justice said it turned over information the intelligence committees sought on possible surveillance during the election. It is not clear yet what that information shows.

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/17/trump-dou...on-perhaps.html


DOJ document says nothing happened

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A lie, is a lie, is a lie. Way too late for an a apology now. I'm sure Obama and co. knows he'll never get one anyways.



Trump still not taking ownership of his false tweeted comment on wire tapping. He's now diverting reporters back to FOX news for explanation on Judge Napolitano's apparently false reports of the sources claiming Obama was involving the British in spying on Trump. The beat goes on.


He is still sending Bagdad Bob out there every day to cover his lies.
Trump can call at a moment the head of the CIA, FBI, NSA and he is quoting a Fox opinion piece from a guy who is a birther, 9-11 conspiracy theorist who is a infowars flunkie

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Yep.

Had to crack up at one of the talking heads defending Trump on CNN tonight while trying to drag Obama in as a comparison; then another talking head called him on trying to drag Obama in saying this was about Trump, the current President not the previous President. Then continued to say that Trump seems to be completely incompetent in dealing with the responsibilities of his Presidency, or maybe moreso "out of touch with reality"! lol


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EXCLUSIVE! New NSA Whistblower Goes Public About Trump Surveillance:


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Documents Show Obama Surveiled Entire Trump Family For 8 Years

Project Dragnet gave countless government employees private data on Trump

https://www.infowars.com/breaking-documents-show-obama-surveiled-entire-trump-family-for-8-years/

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Do we have a siren to press or a lever to pull when someone posts infowars on this board?

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/watch-live-co...-132655166.html

Feds just said there's no evidence on the wire tap claims.

Wonder if trump is gonna continue lying about it. Let's see how many trump supporters still defend this dude.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
https://www.yahoo.com/news/watch-live-co...-132655166.html

Feds just said there's no evidence on the wire tap claims.

Wonder if trump is gonna continue lying about it. Let's see how many trump supporters still defend this dude.


His support will continue. Blind faith has no bounds. Most of his supporters are not defending him but defending their own egos and delusions at this point, IMHO.

History will record this period of our government in very poor light I think. Dating back to the final days of the Carter Presidency leading up to today will be seen as the time we lost democracy to corporatism. Trump will not be reflected in great light but he might be the President responsible for bringing about the fall of corporatism.


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After watching the Democrats with their dime store detective work and conspiracy theories, my only reply is this...

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Yes I can see you adding more tin foil today as your dreams of the Fourth Reich seem to be dwindling.


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White House doubles down on claim Trump Tower was wiretapped despite FBI congressional hearing

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/white-house-doubles-down-claim-191600509.html

If they aren't gonna admit spreading misinformation, then whatever. I understand how pride works.

But to continue doubling down on this even after the Feds said it never happened, this is streight up lying, deception, and spreading misinformation.


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White House doubles down on claim Trump Tower was wiretapped despite FBI congressional hearing

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/white-house-doubles-down-claim-191600509.html

If they aren't gonna admit spreading misinformation, then whatever. I understand how pride works.

But to continue doubling down on this even after the Feds said it never happened, this is streight up lying, deception, and spreading misinformation.


I heard this earlier. They are trying to say it enough to make it true I think. lol

Trump is a fool and will never admit he was wrong, ever.


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Fox pulls Napolitano from air after Trump report

https://www.yahoo.com/tv/fox-pulls-napolitano-air-trump-report-023807823--politics.html

Surprise surprise, fake news bit Fox News again.


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Does anyone find it VERY concerning that Trump gets many of his ideas from commentators on Fox News? Or any news channel for that matter?

Fox News could spit out anything and Trump immediately takes it as truth and tweets about it. He does no background work or fact checking first.

Think about that for a second.


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Originally Posted By: DIEHARD
Does anyone find it VERY concerning that Trump gets many of his ideas from commentators on Fox News? Or any news channel for that matter?

Fox News could spit out anything and Trump immediately takes it as truth and tweets about it. He does no background work or fact checking first.

Think about that for a second.


Thanks for making Trumps point that the Media can't be trusted and they put out fake news. thumbsup

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Does anyone find it VERY concerning that Trump gets many of his ideas from commentators on Fox News? Or any news channel for that matter?

Fox News could spit out anything and Trump immediately takes it as truth and tweets about it. He does no background work or fact checking first.

Think about that for a second.


Thanks for making Trumps point that the Media can't be trusted and they put out fake news. thumbsup


I agree but apparently Donnie says one thing and does the other. How can you call the media fake news and then tweet out what they say as truth?

What a hypocrite.


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Does anyone find it VERY concerning that Trump gets many of his ideas from commentators on Fox News? Or any news channel for that matter?

Fox News could spit out anything and Trump immediately takes it as truth and tweets about it. He does no background work or fact checking first.

Think about that for a second.


Thanks for making Trumps point that the Media can't be trusted and they put out fake news. thumbsup


How can you call the media fake news and then tweet out what they say as truth?



Almost sounds like a guy who has been telling us about the fake news and then comes out tweeting it as truth, allowing the Left to cry, "That's Fake News!" thumbsup

Cry away, Trump agrees with you! thumbsup

He appreciates your help in making his point!

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I hope there is a cure for whatever you have.


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I hope there is a cure for whatever you have.


There isn't. rofl


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Originally Posted By: DIEHARD
Does anyone find it VERY concerning that Trump gets many of his ideas from commentators on Fox News? Or any news channel for that matter?

Fox News could spit out anything and Trump immediately takes it as truth and tweets about it. He does no background work or fact checking first.

Think about that for a second.


Well Barry's favorite line when asked about scandals popping up on his watch was "I just found out about it on CNN".

Can't count how many times I heard that one.

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https://gma.yahoo.com/story-fbi-wiretap-russians-trump-tower-114205276--abc-news-topstories.html#

They now admit Trump Tower was under scrutiny. But they are saying it was the Russians they were after.

Okay, I believe you. Lets act like the tapping of Merkel never happened and that .gov never ever ever lies about anything or admits their guilt.

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Originally Posted By: teedub
https://gma.yahoo.com/story-fbi-wiretap-russians-trump-tower-114205276--abc-news-topstories.html#

They now admit Trump Tower was under scrutiny. But they are saying it was the Russians they were after.

Okay, I believe you. Lets act like the tapping of Merkel never happened and that .gov never ever ever lies about anything or admits their guilt.


Stop the whining. Maybe they are giving Trump a way to save some face here.


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Originally Posted By: teedub
https://gma.yahoo.com/story-fbi-wiretap-russians-trump-tower-114205276--abc-news-topstories.html#

They now admit Trump Tower was under scrutiny. But they are saying it was the Russians they were after.

Okay, I believe you. Lets act like the tapping of Merkel never happened and that .gov never ever ever lies about anything or admits their guilt.


They can not hear common sense.
They are like the 3 apes, covering ears, mouth and eyes.
It is nice of you to try to help them though. thumbsup

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https://gma.yahoo.com/story-fbi-wiretap-russians-trump-tower-114205276--abc-news-topstories.html#

They now admit Trump Tower was under scrutiny. But they are saying it was the Russians they were after.

Okay, I believe you. Lets act like the tapping of Merkel never happened and that .gov never ever ever lies about anything or admits their guilt.


Stop the whining. Maybe they are giving Trump a way to save some face here.


Except they aren't. I saw this article this morning, and didn't post it. Why?

1. The target wasn't trump
2. The target wasn't the trump campaign
3. Obama didn't order the tap.

So those 3 criteria, which is what SPECIFICALLY trump alleged, didn't happen, and never happened.

So trump is still lying his ass off. But it's funny watching T and 40 try to spin this like they're contestants on wheel of fortune.

However, I was gonna leave it alone, but this does nothing but make trump look worse.

A Russian mob boss posted up in Trump tower? Lmao. For somebody who his supporters keeps claiming has zero ties to Russians, there seems to be nothing but ties to Russians.

It's funny watching crocodiles talking about draining their own swamp, and people actually believing the crocodile.


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Why would .gov ever admit that they were doing something they should not. DENY DENY DENY. Even a 3 year old knows to deny deny deny.

Think for your self and question authority. Don't be a sheep.

And how nice of you to hold Trumps feet to the fire for possible ties to Russia. Did you express the same outrage over Obama's ties with Mr Ayres? I already know you will point to CNN's claim that their relationship was minor, but I am gonna ignore the unofficial DNC new outlets research into that.

All I want is a consistent playground. Conservatives have to be better because the loons on the left play with revisionist history and forget they are typically guilty of the same crap, but have some rationale as to why those instance should be ignored and forgotten.

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i don't remember obama claiming that Bush wiretapped his phones.

I also don't remember the part where Obama had two security advisors fired over alleged ties to our adversaries, the Russians.

so it's a huge stretch to say that anybody is guilty of the same crap, especially when we haven't seen this level on nonsense since the nixon years, apparently.

if you want a consistent playground, then the change has to start with YOU. and since you still can't state the FACT that trump lied about a wiretap, that you still can't state the FACT that Trump's campaign has shady ties to russia, which two people have already been fired over, and an AG recused over it, then why should I or anybody else give Trump, or more specifically, yourself any credibility with regards your statements?

as the feds said, talking to russians isn't illegal. lying about it, and assisting the russians in hacks in order to win the election is.

and that's what the investigation is over. so don't complain about the dems, complain about Trump for putting HIMSELF in the situation in the first place.

takes some responsibility for once. don't be a sheep. and i am questioning authority. nobody on this board questions authority more than i do.

and guess who's authority i'm questioning? our lying ass president's.

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you win. I give up. I am told to interact with left leaning people more but I find that they are as closed minded as anyone else but have the self perceived notion that they are the most enlightened and open minded of all humans.

These interactions are why isolationism works and why birds of a feather flock together. The fact that you demand I change is utterly arrogant as if the almighty Swish with his minority status and untouchable military back ground grants him tribal immunity.

I am out and heading back to my Libertarian and Conservative buddies.

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not my fault you keep stating a lie as truth.

have a good day bro!!!

and untouchable military background?

dude i get attacked by everybody on this board regardless of whatever credentials or status i have.

people view me as a liberal first, combat vet second. and make no mistake, if i was conservative they would view me as combat vet first, conservative second.cause that's just the way it is.

it doesn't stop me from showing up and defending my ideology and opinions, though.

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I am out and heading back to my Libertarian and Conservative buddies.

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Back to your safe place? Conservatives have a label for that. They are the only ones allowed to use it here though. naughtydevil


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You have to be a little more understanding of the Liberal/Progressives teedub, their world is coming undone as we take our Country back,
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It takes a brave man/woman to defend our country and liberal, dem, GOP, conservative, alt-right, or what ever the heck the labels are being tossed around these days, I thank you unconditionally for your service. We are a safer country because of vets like you.

Same goes for any other vet or service member or public servant reading this.

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Originally Posted By: teedub
https://gma.yahoo.com/story-fbi-wiretap-russians-trump-tower-114205276--abc-news-topstories.html#

They now admit Trump Tower was under scrutiny. But they are saying it was the Russians they were after.

Okay, I believe you. Lets act like the tapping of Merkel never happened and that .gov never ever ever lies about anything or admits their guilt.


YET ANOTHER Trump connection to the shady Ruskies... No wonder he was so defensive. lol


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Originally Posted By: teedub
https://gma.yahoo.com/story-fbi-wiretap-russians-trump-tower-114205276--abc-news-topstories.html#

They now admit Trump Tower was under scrutiny. But they are saying it was the Russians they were after.

Okay, I believe you. Lets act like the tapping of Merkel never happened and that .gov never ever ever lies about anything or admits their guilt.


The question at hand is not about FOREIGNERS (i.e. NOT American Citizens) were targeted. TOTALLY different set of laws are at play here.

Angelika Merkel is NOT AN AMERICAN CITIZEN therefore (albeit tacky) this is not an issue in this conversation. Surveillance on an AMERICAN CITIZEN requires judicial approval and the Pres cannot request surveillance on his own accord.

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I was thinking Magdawg stood for Make America Great dawg!

No?

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My last name starts with those three letters, I had that name before Trump was even in the running, WAY before that slogan came out. There is no relation what so ever to "Make America Great".

In fact, now that you brought it up, in the 21 years of Army service, almost 7 of those years spent on deployments preserving what we enjoy most, freedom. Excuse me if I never saw America as NOT Great. I got to see first hand how "Great America IS" when the spirit of Americans was displayed in harms way.

America has always been great. It may need some spring cleaning, but she is all we have and she is already GREAT!!!

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