link? not looking all you have had to do is have reading and listening comprehension to know that is a fact regarding his rep. I think the sentiment most used is QB guru. But when you know how to break down a QB and make them better you can evaluate them better. I would think a self proclaimed QB guru like yourself would know that...lol
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It seems if a QB in collage stays for 3 or more yrs he's learning a spread style system. And then it should be harder for them to transfer over to the NFL.. and learn how to stand in the pocket and be a passer inside the pocket.
So if if a young guy like Trubisky who may not have that many starts.. but yet also hasn't been instilled the Spread Offense.. would a guy like that have a better chance to learn to be an NFL QB because he hasn't so much time in the Spread ?
I feel getting them before they only know the Spread...experience game time or not..They may be able to transfer over to a pro style easier... Is that a right way of thinking ?
When someone says they played more of a pro style in collage...What actually was the difference ?
Short answer would be that they took snaps under center and would have to make line calls and/or audibles at the LOS pre-snap. Then, post-snap, they would have to make multiple coverage reads and go through their progressions rather than just make one read and then either check down or take off running.
There is a lot more thinking involved in the pro-style offense.
When someone says they played more of a pro style in collage...What actually was the difference ?
Additional to what was already stated being in a 'pro-style' offense also refers to:
-type of formations and concepts/plays used
QBs in 'pro-style' take some snaps under center where they execute 3-5-7 step drops where the QB's drop depth and reads are coordinated with the depth and location of the receivers routes. Some of the formations and plays ran use some of the same concepts used in NFL offenses.
QBs from a pro-style offense provide the scouts/coaches with an easier evaluation because there is some degree of WYSIWYG with them. You can see them execute offense the way they are going to be asked to execute in the NFL.
Browns GM and coach not attending Mitchell Trubisky's pro day, didn't attend Deshaun Watson's either
Frank Schwab,Shutdown Corner 3 hours ago
It’s a normal Tuesday in March, a little more than five weeks before the NFL draft. Whatever the top decision makers for the Cleveland Browns are doing this Tuesday is apparently more important than attending North Carolina quarterback Mitchell Trubisky’s pro-day workout.
Browns coach Hue Jackson and general manager Sashi Brown won’t attend Trubisky’s pro-day workout, according to the Cleveland Plain Dealer. The duo didn’t attend Clemson quarterback Deshaun Watson’s pro day last week either, sending vice president of player personnel Andrew Berry instead while they worked out another top prospect, the Plain Dealer said. The Browns have many picks in this draft, including the first and 12th picks.
There could be tremendous reasons for the Browns’ two top decision makers skipping pro-day workouts when they’re clearly in the market for a quarterback. Pro days are very scripted, and you won’t get a true read on a player there. Individual workouts are presumably better, and the Browns will hold workouts with Watson, Trubisky and all the top quarterbacks and players, the Plain Dealer said. Maybe they just don’t want to tip their hand to their draft preferences in any way.
But even if the Browns believe pro days are dog and pony shows, what value is there in Jackson and Brown not attending? There has to be something they could gain by seeing Trubisky or Watson work out (Notre Dame, which has quarterback prospect DeShone Kizer, has its pro day on Thursday). Maybe not even from the workout itself, but perhaps from seeing how Trubisky interacts with teammates, how he handles the media attention afterward, anything. The quarterback decision the Browns make – whether it’s drafting one this year, waiting to draft one next year, or signing/trading for a veteran – will be the most important one this regime makes. Having as much exposure as possible to each of the top prospects doesn’t seem like a bad thing.
Maybe the Browns are right, and the coach and general manager will be more productive on Tuesday not attending Trubisky’s pro day. And it’s not like the Browns aren’t going to be in attendance at all. Still, you’d figure the Browns would want to gather as much information as possible for their quarterback decision, so they can get it right.
Individual workouts are presumably better, and the Browns will hold workouts with Watson, Trubisky and all the top quarterbacks and players
I like this way. It gets the player out of their comfort zone ..As in the comfort of their usual playing field. It may also help with seeing how that player relates to the environment around him.And would fit in.
I hear you. However, obtaining as much information as you possibly can is a good thing.
And also consider that there are other players at these Pro Days. I remember when I was scouting that there were all kinds of times that one guy would catch my eye while I was actually at a game scouting another player.
It's the off season. They have time. I think they should use every available avenue to become better prepared.
But even if the Browns believe pro days are dog and pony shows, what value is there in Jackson and Brown not attending? There has to be something they could gain by seeing Trubisky or Watson work out (Notre Dame, which has quarterback prospect DeShone Kizer, has its pro day on Thursday). Maybe not even from the workout itself, but perhaps from seeing how Trubisky interacts with teammates, how he handles the media attention afterward, anything. The quarterback decision the Browns make – whether it’s drafting one this year, waiting to draft one next year, or signing/trading for a veteran – will be the most important one this regime makes. Having as much exposure as possible to each of the top prospects doesn’t seem like a bad thing.
Wouldn't mind drafting this kid late or bringing him in for a look see as a UDFA if he isn't drafted. Just one of those dark horses I'd like to see us sculpt into NFL material if we get the chance.
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GMs rank DeShaun Watson, Mitch Trubisky as top QBs in 2017 NFL Draft
DeShone Kizer got no votes. by David Fucillo@davidfucillo Mar 21, 2017, 5:00pm PDT
The University of North Carolina held its Pro Day on Tuesday, and with its conclusion, Mitchell Trubisky and DeShaun Watson have wrapped up their open performances. Moving forward, they will conduct private workouts and official visits throughout the next month. Notre Dame holds its Pro Day on Thursday, which means DeShone Kizer will be on display, and then head off for his private workouts and official visits.
With two of the three notable Pro Days complete, NFL Network analyst Charley Casserly decided to conduct a survey of NFL general managers. He spoke with 22 GMs and asked them who their top QB was. Watson and Trubisky topped the list, with nine and eight votes, respectively. Here’s the full list of votes.
Notably absent is DeShone Kizer. Also, back in February, one anonymous executive said that Davis Webb was the QB he wanted to build around, and thinks he could end up the best QB in this year’s class. And of course, I would not be surprised if one of the GMs did not give a completely honest answer.
Mike Mayock revealed his updated top five position rankings, and he made no changes to the QB position. I say this because his top QB is Kizer, followed by Watson, Trubisky, Mahomes, and Webb. He also does not think any of the QBs is worth a top ten pick, and we don’t know what any of these anonymous GMs think in that regard.
Following More Ole Miss QB Chad Kelly, recovering from a torn ACL, was cleared by Dr. Andrews for a 35-45 play script at OM Pro Day, per agent Duray Oubre.
Great news. I still think he's my #1 QB as a late flyer. I think people just really underestimate leadership's importance for a QB. If Kelly has anything it's moxy and leadership.
I live in Mississippi, and Kelly was a huge distraction all season long to his team. Whether it was fighting at HS games, tweeting opposing pornstar fans on Twitter, or just being an all around idiot.
Kelly is anything but a leader.........as a matter of fact the folks down here would say his lack of leadership was there biggest complaint with him.....I would agree.
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Saw one film on him Penn vs Princeton was not impressed but he did throw one out and had NFL velocity on it. His WRs were...well DePodesta was an Ivy League WR...lol
Good arm, tough kid, smart - his Jr. n Sr. season there was much improvement as he decided to study more film and make himself better with good results.
Supposedly did great at the East West Shrine Bowl game.
Just putting it out there as I saw this on Bleacher Report by Soboleski.
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