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Trump is a threat to your beloved Socialism.
You should be afraid, very afraid.


FDR picked up a country broken by corporatist greed, installed social programs, infrastructure, saved capitalism, and then fought and won a world war... He believed that liberal socialism is a necessary part of American democracy. And he was president for the better part of two decades. wink

And if he was a conservative, all history would remember is that he was an ardent racist and they would be protesting and ripping his name from buildings and schools around the country...

But he was a liberal so... let's just ignore that.


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Jc Kind of meh on this.

Reputable websites have a privacy policy which you can use to decide if you want to sign up.

And far as ISPs go, exactly what data will they have? Pretty sure they know your IP and sites you go to, but beyond that how would they know any of your personal data? And furthermore would it not violate COPPA laws? Collecting personally identifying info on children is still illegal.

Additionally, it breaks international spam laws to send an email to someone who did not prior approve of it. Canada will fine you 10 million for breaking spam laws.

I know this from running ecommerce sites. I have to jump through all the hoops.

So unless you are making accounts on xxxpornstar.com you have nothing to.worry about.


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Originally Posted By: EveDawg
News flash. This isnt the 1930s.
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News flash. This isnt the 1930s.
Originally Posted By: EveDawg
News flash. This isnt the 1930s.


No kidding, under Republican rule it's like the 1800's! we're bringing back slavery via corporations, wars with Mexico and Europe, stealing land from the indians, and letting snake oil con artist, robber barons, and lawless strong men have their way with the country.

The good ole day's! I was born in the land of cotton..... Dixie Land!

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We control everything around you.

For the next 4 years sit quietly and we will control all that you see and hear. You are about to participate in a great adventure. You are about to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the inner mind to... The Outer Limits of Conservatism.
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We control everything around you.

For the next 4 years sit quietly and we will control all that you see and hear. You are about to participate in a great adventure. You are about to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the inner mind to... The Outer Limits of Conservatism.
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Then you guys will repeal Obamacare? rofl

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Depends if it pleases us to do so.

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ANATOMY OF AN OLIGARCHY: How Much Every Politician Who Voted Against Internet Privacy Was Paid By Big Telecom in 2016

By Walker Bragman - March 29, 2017

Every so often you will hear someone call the U.S. an oligarchy.

Back in 2014, a study by professors from Princeton and Northwestern came out which seemed to confirm as much: Ever since the Supreme Court’s fateful decision in Buckley v. Valeo (1976) which held that spending money is a protected form of speech under the First Amendment, the demands of economic elites have been the biggest predictor of policy outcomes in the United States, even trumping popular will. And yet, despite the fact that this disturbing trend has gotten exponentially worse following subsequent cases like Citizens United v. FEC.

But what does this look like on paper? To illustrate, let’s look at the recent votes on internet privacy.

On Tuesday, Congress joined the Senate in approving a resolution to repeal an Obama-era regulation barring internet service providers from selling user data to third parties without providing them the option of ‘opting in.’ S.J. Resolution 34, also hands regulation of broadband service over to the Federal Trade Commission, barring the Federal Communications Commission from imposing new regulations regarding the internet in the future. In other words, internet privacy is a thing of the past once President Trump provides his signature—which he has pledged to do.

Below are compiled lists of every ‘YAY’ vote along with how much money that individual received from the from telecommunications industry in the 2016 election cycle. What is notable is the fact that generally speaking, when it comes to ‘YAY’ votes, the question isn’t whether the Senator/Representative is taking money from big telecom, but rather how much the Senator/Representative is taking.

NOTES: These numbers are from the Center for Responsive Politics as compiled by Maplight.org. “telecom” refers to the total spent in the 2016 election cycle by telecommunications companies along with those telephone utility companies that provide broadband internet service directly or through a subsidiary. Employee donations are counted either towards “telecom,” or towards the companies singled out (AT&T and Verizon). For the sake of accuracy, donations from low level employees are excluded, but all donations of $1,000 or more are counted.

The lists do not include dark money expenditures or donations from lobbyists associated with the industry unless they are listed as an employee of the company.

For example, in addition to his large war chest from telecommunications companies, Rep. Joe Barton (R-TX) also received $2,000 from DCI Group, a lobbying firm whose biggest client is Verizon. For the purposes of this list, such donations, are excluded as they would lead down a seemingly never-ending rabbit hole. It should be noted that the parties and other groups which candidates receive funding from, do receive money from the industry.

This is why, in cases where there is no money specifically listed from big telecom, an asterisk has been placed. The full story is not necessarily told by these numbers—in reality, it is much worse.

A ‘NAY’ vote does not automatically mean that the politician is not funded by large telecommunications companies. In fact, though the vote on the resolution in question was along party lines, big telecom companies actually spent more money on Democrats in 2016 than they did on Republicans (that may have had a lot to do with Hillary Clinton’s presumed inevitability). It is likely that since this resolution was essentially guaranteed to pass, many were able to oppose it without fear of reprisal from their donors.

U.S. SENATE ‘YAY’ VOTES

Senator Alexander (R-TN): $2,500 from AT&T

Senator Barrasso (R-WY): $1,500 from telecom, not including $3,000 from AT&T

Senator Blunt (R-MO): $130,100 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $7,000 from Verizon

Senator Boozman (R-AR): $34,000 from telecom, not including $4,500 from AT&T and $9,000 from Verizon

Senator Burr (R-NC): $61,400 from telecom, not including $10,000 from Verizon and $10,000 AT&T

Senator Capito (R-WV): $2,000 from telecom

Senator Cassidy (R-LA): $4,500 from telecom, not including $2,000 from AT&T

Senator Cochran (R-MS): $2,000 from telecom, not including $1,000 from AT&T

Senator Collins (R-ME): $2,000 from AT&T

Senator Corker (R-TN): $2,500 from AT&T

Senator Cornyn (R-TX): $7,900 from telecom, not including $5,400 from AT&T

Senator Cotton (R-AR): $5,000 from telecom, not including $1,000 from AT&T

Senator Crapo (R-ID): $23,900 from telecom

Senator Cruz (R-TX): $134,265 from telecom, not including $8,450 AT&T and $2,600 from Verizon

Senator Daines (R-MT): $17,750 from telecom, and $4,000 AT&T

Senator Enzi (R-WY): $1,500 from telecom, not including $1,000 AT&T and $2,500 from Verizon

Senator Ernst (R-IA): $10,000 from telecom, not including $3,000 from AT&T

Senator Fischer (R-NE): $64,500 from telecom, not including $5,500 from AT&T

Senator Flake (R-AZ): $8,500 from telecom, not including $2,000 from Verizon

Senator Gardner (R-CO): $49,800 from telecom, not including $7,000 from AT&T

Senator Graham (R-SC): $29,750 from telecom, not including $1,000 from AT&T

Senator Grassley (R-IA): $99,500 from telecom, not including $4,500 $26,225 from Verizon

Senator Hatch (R-UT): $12,000 from telecom, not including $3,000 from AT&T and $1,000 from Verizon

Senator Heller (R-NV): $24,000 not including $7,500 from AT&T and $2,500 from Verizon

Senator Hoeven (R-ND): $30,480 from telecom, not including $2,000 from AT&T and $5,500 from Verizon

Senator Inhofe (R-OK): $2,000 from telecom, not including $1,000 from AT&T

Senator Johnson (R-WI): $84,600 from telecom, not including $6,000 from AT&T and $4,000 from Verizon

Senator Kennedy (R-LA): $13,000 from telecom, not including $5,000 from AT&T and $5,000 from Verizon

Senator Lankford (R-OK): $34,500 from telecom, not including $6,000 from AT&T and $3,000 from Verizon

Senator Lee (R-UT): $62,500 from telecom, not including $3,000 from AT&T, $3,500 from Verizon

Senator McCain (R-AZ): $92,400 from telecom, not including $9,700 from AT&T and $8,000 from Verizon

Senator McConnell (R-KY): $24,300 from telecom, not including $5,000 from AT&T

Senator Moran (R-KS): $100,150 from telecom, not including $8,000 from AT&T and $6,000 from Verizon

Senator Murkowski (R-AK): $49,750 from telecom, not including $1,000 from AT&T and $4,500 from Verizon

Senator Perdue (R-GA): $32,500 from telecom, not including $2,000 from AT&T

Senator Portman (R-OH): $99,600 from telecom, not including $5,000 from AT&T and $38,100 from Verizon

Senator Risch (R-ID): $1,000 from telecom, not including $1,000 from AT&T

Senator Roberts (R-KS): $2,500 from from telecom, not including $2,000 from AT&T

Senator Rounds (R-SD): $2,500 from telecom, not including $3,000 from AT&T

Senator Rubio (R-FL): $92,200 from telecom, not including $19,100 from AT&T and $20,100 from Verizon

Senator Sasse (R-NE): $6,000 from telecom

Senator Scott (R-SC): $64,900 from telecom, not including $5,000 and $5,000 from Verizon

Senator Shelby (R-AL): $19,000 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T

*Senator Strange (R-AL) (replaced Senator Sessions in 2017)

Senator Sullivan (R-AK): $14,500 from telecom, not including $4,000 from AT&T and $2,500 from Verizon

Senator Thune (R-SD): $165,700 from telecom, not including $25,000 from AT&T and $25,650 from Verizon

Senator Tillis (R-NC): $19,000 from telecom, not including $5,000 from AT&T

Senator Toomey (R-PA): $76,800 from telecom, not including $24,100 from Verizon and $6,000 from AT&T

Senator Wicker (R-MS): $20,500 from telecom, not including $6,000 from AT&T

Senator Young (R-IN): $22,100 from telecom, not including $11,250 from AT&T and $5,000 from Verizon

U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ‘YAY’ VOTES

Abraham (R-LA): $7,000 from telecom, not including $3,000 from AT&T and $Verizon

Aderholt (R-AL): $11,000 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $3,000 from Verizon

Allen (R-GA): $15,000 from telecom, not including $1,000 from Verizon

Amodei (R-NV): $9,000 from telecom, not including $8,500 from AT&T and $2,000 from Verizon

Arrington (R-TX): $3,000 from telecom, not including $3,000 from AT&T and $2,000 from Verizon

Babin (R-TX: ):$4,000 from telecom, not including $1,000 from AT&T and $2,000 from Verizon

Bacon (R-NE): $2,500 from telecom

Banks (R-IN): $2,000 from telecom, not including $3,000 from AT&T and $2,000 from Verizon

Barletta (R-PA): $10,000 from telecom, not including $2,000 from AT&T and $2,700 from Verizon

Barr (R-KY): $11,500 from telecom, not including $6,500 from AT&T

Barton (R-TX): $35,500 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $8,250 from Verizon

Bergman (R-MI): $6,500 from telecom, not including $2,000 from Verizon

Biggs (R-AZ): $6,000 from telecom, not including $2,000 from Verizon

Bilirakis (R-FL): $49,500 from telecom, not including $8,000 from AT&T and $8,000 from Verizon

Bishop (R-MI): $6,000 from AT&T and $5,000 from Verizon

Bishop (R-UT): $2,500 from telecom, not including $2,000 from AT&T

Black (R-TN): $21,500 from telecom, not including $8,000 from AT&T and $5,000 from Verizon

Blackburn (R-TN): $65,000 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $12,000 from Verizon

Blum (R-IA): $15,150 from telecom, not including $1,000 from AT&T

Bost (R-IL): $18,500 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T

Brady (R-TX): $30,000 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $9,000 from Verizon

Brat (R-VA): $2,000 from telecom, not including $4,000 from AT&T

Bridenstine (R-OK): $23,250 from telecom, not including $1,000 from AT&T

Brooks (R-IN): $37,300 from telecom, not including $8,000 from AT&T and $4,000 from Verizon

Buchanan (R-FL): $8,400 from telecom, not including $7,000 from AT&T and $4,500 from Verizon

Buck (R-CO): $18,600 from telecom, not including $4,000 from AT&T and $3,000 from Verizon

Bucshon (R-IN): $23,000 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $2,500 from Verizon

Budd (R-NC): $6,000 from telecom, not including $1,000 from Verizon

Burgess (R-TX): $30,500 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $5,000 from Verizon

Byrne (R-AL): $16,400 from telecom, not including $6,000 from AT&T and $1,000 from Verizon

Calvert (R-CA): $10,000 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $2,000 from Verizon

Carter (R-GA): $12,500 from telecom, not including $4,000 from AT&T and $5,000 from Verizon

Carter (R-TX): $10,500 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $1,000 from Verizon

Chabot (R-OH): $22,250 from telecom, not including $4,000 from AT&T and $4,000 from Verizon

Chaffetz (R-UT): $24,100 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $5,000 from Verizon

Cheney (R-WY): $13,500 from telecom, not including $2,000 from AT&T

Cole (R-OK): $6,700 from telecom, not including $6,000 from AT&T and $5,000 from Verizon

Collins (R-GA): $42,000 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T

Collins (R-NY): $2,000 from AT&T

Comer (R-KY): $4,000 from telecom, not including $8,000 from AT&T and $2,500 from Verizon

Comstock (R-VA): $32,000 from telecom, not including $11,000 from AT&T and $8,000 from Verizon

Conaway (R-TX): $13,500 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $1,000 from Verizon

Cook (R-CA): $5,000 from telecom, not including $8,000 from AT&T and $2,000 from Verizon

Costello (PA): $34,350 from telecom, not including $8,000 from AT&T and $4,000 from Verizon

Cramer (R-ND): $74,000 from telecom, not including $3,500 from AT&T and $7,000 from Verizon

Crawford (R-AK): $6,000 from telecom, not including $3,000 from AT&T

Culberson (R-TX): $1,000 from telecom, not including $7,000 from AT&T

Curbelo (R-FL): $24,750 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $5,000 from Verizon

Davis, Rodney (R-IL): $32,500 from telecom, not including $8,500 from AT&T and $5,250 from Verizon

Denham (R-CA): $30,500 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $6,000 from Verizon

Dent (R-PA): $19,500 from telecom, not including $6,700 from AT&T

DeSantis (R-FL): $22,000 from telecom, not including $6,000 from AT&T and $3,000 from Verizon

DesJarlais (R-TN): $2,000 from AT&T

Diaz-Balart (R-FL): $12,500 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $4,000 from Verizon

Donovan (R-NY): $21,700 from telecom, not including $8,000 from AT&T and $2000 from Verizon

Duncan (R-SC): $5,500 from telecom, not including $5,000 from AT&T and $1,000 from Verizon

Dunn (R-FL): $5,500 from telecom, not including $3,000 from AT&T

Emmer (R-MN): $8,500 from telecom, not including $8,000 from AT&T and $1,000 from Verizon

Farenthold (R-TX): $19,750 from telecom, not including $6,000 from AT&T

Ferguson (R-GA): $11,500 from telecom, not including $3,000 from AT&T

Fitzpatrick (R-PA): $11,700 from telecom,

Fleischmann (R-TN): $12,000 from telecom, not including $6,500 from AT&T

Flores (R-TX): $40,000 from telecom, not including $9,000 from AT&T and $7,000 from Verizon

Fortenberry (R-NE): $4,700 from telecom, not including $1,000 from AT&T

Foxx (R-NC): $5,000 from telecom, not including $9,000 from AT&T

Franks (R-AZ): $21,500 from telecom, not including $5,000 from AT&T

Frelinghuysen (R-NJ): $40,200 from telecom

Gaetz (R-FL): $3,500 from telecom, not including $1,00 from AT&T

Gallagher (R-WI): $10,000 from telecom, not including $3,000 from AT&T and $2,000 from Verizon

Garrett (R-VA) $2,000 from Verizon

Gibbs (R-OH): $24,600 from telecom, not including $4,000 from AT&T and $1,000 from Verizon

Gohmert (R-TX): $5,000 from telecom, not including $2,000 from AT&T

Goodlatte (R-VA): $86,450 from telecom, not including $8,000 from AT&T and $5,000 from Verizon

Gosar (R-AZ): $2,000 from telecom, not including $2,000 from AT&T

Gowdy (R-SC): $9,500 from telecom, not including $7,000 from AT&T

Granger (R-TX): $9,500 from telecom, not including $8,000 from AT&T and $1,000 from Verizon

Graves (R-GA): $31,500 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $4,000 from Verizon

Graves (R-MO): $15,500 from telecom, not including $9,000 from AT&T and $5,000 from Verizon

Griffith (R-VA): $39,400 from telecom, not including $6,000 from AT&T and $2,000 from Verizon

Grothman (R-WI): $4,850 from telecom, not including $5,600 from AT&T and $Verizon

Guthrie (R-KY): $84,250 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $9,000 from Verizon

Harper (R-MI): $26,600 from telecom, not including $11,000 from AT&T and $2,000 from Verizon

Harris (R-MD): $2,000 from telecom, not including $1,000 from AT&T

Hartzler (R-MO): $3,000 from telecom, not including $5,000 from AT&T and $1,000 from Verizon

Hensarling (R-TX): $6,000 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T

Hice, Jody B. (R-GA): $9,500 from telecom, not including $2,000 from AT&T and $1,000 from Verizon

*Higgins (R-LA)

Holding (R-GA): $12,500 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $5,000 from Verizon

Hollingsworth (R-IN) – $6,200 from telecom, not including $3,000 from AT&T and $1,000 from Verizon

Hudson (R-NC): $43,000 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $6,250 from Verizon

Huizenga (R-MI): $5,000 from telecom, not including $5,000 from AT&T

Hultgren (R-IL): $3,000 from telecom, not including $6,000 from AT&T

Hunter (R-CA): $10,000 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $4,000 from Verizon

Hurd (R-TX): $53,900 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $4,000 from Verizon

Issa (R-CA): $86,225 from telecom, not including $5,000 from AT&T and $6,000 from Verizon

Jenkins (R-KS): $28,500 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $6,000 from Verizon

Jenkins (R-WV): $2,500 from telecom, not including $4,000 from AT&T and $1,000 from Verizon

*Johnson (R-LA)

Johnson (R-OH): $55,000 from telecom, not including $9,000 from AT&T and $7,000 from Verizon

Johnson, Sam (R-TX): $9,500 from telecom, not including $5,000 from AT&T and $4,000 from Verizon

Jordan (R-OH): $15,000 from telecom, not including $3,000 from AT&T and $3,000 from Verizon

Joyce (R-OH): $8,500 from telecom, not including $3,000 from AT&T and $5,000 from Verizon

Katko (R-NY): $20,750 from telecom, not including $6,000 from AT&T and $3,000 from Verizon

Kelly (R-MS): $7,100 from telecom, not including $3,000 from AT&T

Kelly (R-PA): $41,100 from telecom, not including $6,000 from AT&T and $3,000 from Verizon

King (R-IA): $13,200 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T

King (R-NY): $3,500 from telecom, not including $6,000 from AT&T

Kinzinger (R-IL): $83,750 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $7,500 from Verizon

Knight (R-CA): $28,500 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $2,000 from Verizon

Kustoff (R-TN): $2,500 from telecom, not including $3,000 from AT&T

Labrador (R-ID): $4,000 from telecom, not including $6,000 from AT&T

LaHood (R-IL): $11,500 from telecom, not including $11,500 from AT&T and $2,000 from Verizon

LaMalfa (R-CA): $4,000 from telecom, not including $1,000 from AT&T

Lamborn (R-CO): $35,300 from telecom, not including $4,000 from AT&T

Lance (R-NJ): $30,500 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $7,500 from Verizon

Latta (R-OH): $82,750 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $5,000 from Verizon

Lewis (R-MN): $3,500 from telecom,

LoBiondo (R-NJ): $5,000 from telecom, not including $4,000 from AT&T and $5,000 from Verizon

Long (R-MO): $48,750 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $8,000 from Verizon

Loudermilk (R-GA): $14,500 from telecom, not including $2,500 from AT&T and $1,000 from Verizon

Love (R-UT): $12,000 from telecom, not including $4,000 from AT&T

Lucas (R-OK): $11,000 from telecom, not including $6,000 from AT&T

Luetkemeyer (R-MO): $17,000 from telecom, not including $3,000 from AT&T

MacArthur (R-NJ): $13,500 from telecom, not including $6,000 from AT&T and $2,000 from Verizon

Marchant (R-TX): $6,000 from AT&T and $4,000 from Verizon

Marshall (R-KS): $12,250 from telecom, not including $6,250 from AT&T

*Massie (R-KY)

Mast (R-FL): $2,500 from telecom,

McCarthy (R-CA): $74,550 from telecom, not including $7,500 from AT&T and $10,000 from Verizon

McCaul (R-TX): $24,200 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $8,000 from Verizon

McHenry (R-NC): $33,250 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T

McKinley (R-WV): $21,000 from telecom, not including $4,500 from AT&T

McMorris Rodgers (R-WA): $79,900 from telecom, not including $5,000 from AT&T and $10,000 from Verizon

McSally (R-AZ): $35,500 from telecom, not including $7,000 from AT&T and $5,000Verizon

Meadows (R-NC): $1,000 from telecom, not including $2,000 from AT&T

Meehan (R-PA): $49,100 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $8,000 from Verizon

Messer (R-IN): $10,650 from telecom, not including $4,000 from AT&T and $1,000 from Verizon

Mitchell (R-MI): $5,000 from telecom, not including $3,000 from AT&T

Moolenaar (R-MI): $3,000 from telecom, not including $9,500 from AT&T and $1,000 from Verizon

Mooney (R-WV): $4,000 from telecom, not including $2,000 from AT&T and $1,000 from Verizon

Mullin (R-OK): $45,500 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $7,000 from Verizon

Murphy (R-PA): $22,000 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $4,000 from Verizon

Newhouse (R-WA): $5,000 from telecom, not including $3,000 from AT&T and $2,000 from Verizon

Noem (R-SD): $17,700 from telecom, not including $9,000 from AT&T and $7,500 from Verizon

Nunes (R-CA): $19,000 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $10,000 from Verizon

Olson (R-TX): $50,500 from telecom, not including $11,500 from AT&T and $8,000 from Verizon

Palazzo (R-MI): $5,100 from telecom, not including $2,000 from AT&T

Palmer (R-AL): $2,000 from AT&T

Paulsen (R-MN): $28,750 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $9,500 from Verizon

Pearce (R-NM): $13,250 from telecom, not including $4,000 from AT&T

Perry (R-PA): $7,000 from telecom, not including $8,000 from AT&T and $2,000 from Verizon

Poe (R-TX): $14,500 from telecom, not including $4,000 from AT&T and $4,000 from Verizon

Poliquin (R-ME): $31,000 from telecom, not including $7,000 from AT&T and $2,000 from Verizon

Posey (R-FL): $3,000 from telecom,

Ratcliffe (R-TX): $16,000 from telecom, not including $ from AT&T and $ from Verizon

Reed (R-NY): $12,000 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $10,000 from Verizon

Renacci (R-OH): $44,600 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $7,000 from Verizon

Rice (R-SC): $7,500 from telecom, not including $7,000 from AT&T and $4,000 from Verizon

Roby (R-AL): $21,300 from telecom, not including $6,000 from AT&T and $2,000 from Verizon

Roe (R-TN): $2,000 from telecom,

Rogers (R-AL): $20,500 from telecom, not including $8,000 from AT&T and $Verizo

Rogers (R-KY): $6,000 from telecom, not including $9,000 from AT&T and $2,500 from Verizon

*Rohrabacher (R-CA)

Rokita (R-IN): $6,500 from telecom, not including $6,000 from AT&T and $2,000 from Verizon

Rooney(R-FL): $500 from AT&T

Rooney, Thomas J. (R-FL): $10,625 from telecom, not including $5,000 from AT&T

Roskam (R-IL): $23,700 from telecom, not including $8,000 from AT&T and $10,000 from Verizon

Ross (R-FL): $22,200 from telecom, not including $9,000 from AT&T and $2,000 from Verizon

Rothfus (R-PA): $31,400 from telecom,

Rouzer (R-NC): $7,000 from telecom, not including $4,000 from AT&T and $2,000 from Verizon

Royce (R-CA): $4,050 from telecom, not including $8,000 from AT&T

Russell (R-OK): $13,000 from telecom, not including $3,000 from AT&T

Rutherford (R-FL): $5,000 from telecom, not including $1,000 from AT&T

Scalise (R-LA): $121,300 from telecom, not including $5,000 from AT&T and $10,250 from Verizon

Schweikert (R-AZ): $10,000 from telecom, not including $2,000 from AT&T

Scott, Austin (R-GA): $7,000 from telecom, not including $2,000 from AT&T

Sensenbrenner (R-WI): $26,500 from telecom, not including $3,000 from AT&T and $1,000 from Verizon

Sessions (R-TX): $19,500 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $4,000 from Verizon

Shimkus (R-IL): $112,400 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $10,450 from Verizon

Shuster (R-PA): $15,500 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $10,000 from Verizon

Smith (R-MO): $32,000 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $5,000 from Verizon

Smith (R-NE): $15,500 from telecom, not including $8,000 from AT&T and $6,000 from Verizon

Smith (R-NJ): $2,000 from telecom, not including $2,000 from Verizon

Smith (R-TX): $41,600 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $10,000 from Verizon

Smucker (R-PA): $5,250 from telecom, not including $2,000 from AT&T and $1,000 from Verizon

Stewart (R-UT): $5,500 from telecom, not including $4,000 from AT&T and $3,000 from Verizon

Stivers (R-OH): $16,300 from telecom, not including $6,000 from AT&T

Taylor (R-VA): $7,500 from telecom, not including $2,000 from AT&T and $2,000 from Verizon

Tenney (R-NY): $1,000 from AT&T

Thompson (R-PA): $10,000 from telecom, not including $2,000 from AT&T and $4,000 from Verizon

Thornberry (R-TX): $13,000 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $10,000 from Verizon

Tiberi (R-OH): $39,500 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $7,500 from Verizon

Tipton (R-CO): $25,090 from telecom, not including $6,000 from AT&T

Trott (R-MI): $7,000 from telecom, not including $3,000 from AT&T

Turner (R-OH): $4,000 from telecom, not including $2,000 from AT&T

Upton (R-MI): $91,250 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $12,000 from Verizon

Valadao (R-CA): $23,000 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $4,000 from Verizon

Wagner (R-MO): $31,250 from telecom, not including $8,000 from AT&T

Walberg (R-MI): $31,000 from telecom, not including $7,000 from AT&T and $7,500 from Verizon

Walden (R-OR): $223,850 from telecom, not including $10,000 from AT&T and $10,000 from Verizon

Walker (R-NC): $5,500 from telecom, not including $11,000 from AT&T

Walorski (R-IN): $10,000 from telecom, not including $7,250 from AT&T and $6,000 from Verizon

Walters, Mimi (R-CA): $43,500 from telecom, not including $7,500 from AT&T and $6,550 from Verizon

Weber (R-TX): $1,500 from telecom,

Webster (R-FL): $1,500 from telecom, not including $2,000 from AT&T

Wenstrup (R-OH): $10,650 from telecom,

Westerman (R-AK): $3,750 from telecom, not including $2,000 from AT&T

Williams (R-TX): $3,000 from telecom, not including $2,000 from AT&T and $1,000 from Verizon

Wilson (R-SC): $4,000 from telecom, not including $4,000 from AT&T and $1,000 from Verizon

Wittman (R-VA): $9,000 from telecom, not including $3,000 from AT&T

Womack (R-AK): $22,500 from telecom, not including $6,000 from AT&T and $1,000 from Verizon

Woodall (R-GA): $8,000 from telecom, not including $3,000 from AT&T and $3,250 from Verizon

Yoho (R-FL): $4,000 from AT&T

Young (R-AK): $35,650 from telecom, not including $1,000 from AT&T

Young (R-IA): $39,955 from telecom, not including $4,000 from AT&T and $6,500 from Verizon

So there you have it. This is how our government works now: Money talks and every vote has a price.

http://truthagainstthemachine.com/index....g-telecom-2016/

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In fact, though the vote on the resolution in question was along party lines, big telecom companies actually spent more money on Democrats in 2016 than they did on Republicans (that may have had a lot to do with Hillary Clinton’s presumed inevitability). It is likely that since this resolution was essentially guaranteed to pass, many were able to oppose it without fear of reprisal from their donors.


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Dang. Not 1 single D or I in the bunch, eh?

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In fact, though the vote on the resolution in question was along party lines, big telecom companies actually spent more money on Democrats in 2016 than they did on Republicans (that may have had a lot to do with Hillary Clinton’s presumed inevitability). It is likely that since this resolution was essentially guaranteed to pass, many were able to oppose it without fear of reprisal from their donors.


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Hey, was this an agenda based post?


I imagine the dems voting no was like Miami voting no against the Oakland move. They supported it, knew it would pass, so they all voted no to pretend like they care for the little guy.


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Hype in my opinion. This is already happening at Facebook, Google and others.


Not hype - this is a de facto end to any/all consumer privacy.

Facebook, etc.... you have the option of not using those services.
With this repealed, every ISP out there will be collecting ALL of this data (which means the gov't will also have ALL of this data without having to get warrants), and if you want to be on the internet, you have no options. None.

And that is bad, because lots of jobs in many industries these days cannot even be gotten without an internet connection.

If your employer wants to know EVERYTHING you do online - even on your own time - they will be able to get that information.


This is nothing short of being an unmitigated crapfest that moves us closer to being a perpetually monitored society with zero expectation of privacy instead of protecting privacy and the freedoms of citizens. Anyone that loves the Constitution should abhor everything about this.



IT'S A LITTLE LATE, FOLKS!!

This is being RAMMED through with no debate on A PARTY LINE VOTE!

Most of you voted for the elected Reps and Senators who voted to take your right to privacy (on the internet) away.

There is nothing you can do about it now!


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Eve, Arch, Squires - Is freedom now a partisan thing for you guys? Is the FACT that big brother is being cut loose on all of us under ANY President cool with you? How much freedom has to be taken away from you before you get mad about it? Are you waiting for the serial number tattoos on your arms?

People like me fought like hell to keep things like this from happening under the last two Presidents! No partisanship, just fighting for what is right, our freedom!

We live in a completely digital age. The internet of things remember? Your communication devices, your homes, your cars, your appliances, health devices (soon clothes and paper) are all digital and capable of monitoring your every action. Are you seriously okay with trusting the government and corporations to not misuse this power to use that information as they see fit?

SAD.

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People like me fought like hell to keep things like this from happening under the last two Presidents! No partisanship, just fighting for what is right, our freedom!

We lost, we lost horribly, we lost like the Browns vs the Steelers.. it was a crushing defeat, we never stood a chance. Bush started it, Obama put it on steroids right up until the day he left office... the government has 100x more latitude to collect and share your private information than it had when Obama took office...

And I don't like this legislation at all... but as far as somebody putting a number tattoo on my arm, I'm far more afraid of the government doing that than Amazon...


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People like me fought like hell to keep things like this from happening under the last two Presidents! No partisanship, just fighting for what is right, our freedom!

We lost, we lost horribly, we lost like the Browns vs the Steelers.. it was a crushing defeat, we never stood a chance. Bush started it, Obama put it on steroids right up until the day he left office... the government has 100x more latitude to collect and share your private information than it had when Obama took office...

And I don't like this legislation at all... but as far as somebody putting a number tattoo on my arm, I'm far more afraid of the government doing that than Amazon...


I agree, now all of this information can be added to the already warrantless information the government collects on us.

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And all it takes is one maybe two elections to change this...

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And all it takes is one maybe two elections to change this...

Are you talking about getting rid of it? And if so, are you talking about this legislation specifically or are you talking about the government collecting information on innocent people in general?


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Hype in my opinion. This is already happening at Facebook, Google and others.


Not hype - this is a de facto end to any/all consumer privacy.

Facebook, etc.... you have the option of not using those services.
With this repealed, every ISP out there will be collecting ALL of this data (which means the gov't will also have ALL of this data without having to get warrants), and if you want to be on the internet, you have no options. None.

And that is bad, because lots of jobs in many industries these days cannot even be gotten without an internet connection.

If your employer wants to know EVERYTHING you do online - even on your own time - they will be able to get that information.


This is nothing short of being an unmitigated crapfest that moves us closer to being a perpetually monitored society with zero expectation of privacy instead of protecting privacy and the freedoms of citizens. Anyone that loves the Constitution should abhor everything about this.

After that explanation, now I'm mad.


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And all it takes is one maybe two elections to change this...

Are you talking about getting rid of it? And if so, are you talking about this legislation specifically or are you talking about the government collecting information on innocent people in general?


I'm just saying that in a major election, most congress seats and the executive branch would be wide open. All it takes is for people to start caring about their internet privacy. Things could quickly change if the people choose to be empowered.

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Thank you for the explanation... I could see this particular legislation being a minor talking point in an election cycle, I just don't think it's ever going to be the kind of single issue that moves the election in one direction or the other...

And I don't think they will ever make government surveillance an issue for a couple reasons, not the least of which is, nobody really knows the extent to which the government is collecting data and what they are doing with it because they have progressively reduced oversight on what NSA is actually doing. It's hard to make something a big issue when it's all kept a secret from everybody.

Plus, and I think this is kind of sad, I think people have just given up caring.. at least honest people have given up. Most of them just accept that anything you put in an e-mail or search on a browser or say in a chat room, or even text over your phone is being collected by somebody somewhere... it's like it would be a full time job to read all of the disclaimers on every site and in every app to actually understand who is collecting what and what they are allowed to do with it.


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Thank you for the explanation... I could see this particular legislation being a minor talking point in an election cycle, I just don't think it's ever going to be the kind of single issue that moves the election in one direction or the other...


Maybe it's because I'm young and don't have as much invested into things, but for the life of me I cannot understand how we have "minor talking points" with a 24/7 news cycle. I think we're all just way too informed, to the point of being misinformed, on a few things to being generally well informed of almost everything. I know those things don't sell ads, but dang. Why don't we care about our own information more?

Yes, most companies can already see most of our information. But I'm not really cool with that either. I try to release as much information on the internet that I want. Nothing more, nothing less. But a lot of these companies are trying to take all this information. Some of which, I'm not sure they should have legal access to, even though I've waived my rights for it. I don't think the government should have it either.

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Maybe it's because I'm young and don't have as much invested into things, but for the life of me I cannot understand how we have "minor talking points" with a 24/7 news cycle. I think we're all just way too informed, to the point of being misinformed, on a few things to being generally well informed of almost everything. I know those things don't sell ads, but dang. Why don't we care about our own information more?

Because people have lives and can't be concerned about everything.. which is why the fact that somebody is collecting your information in the background won't be a big issue until somebody tries to do something nefarious with it... if it doesn't affect me today, most people aren't all that interested in it.

That's why we haven't fixed social security in 40 years since people first identified it was going to be a problem.. those near retirement age won't let it be fixed because they would lose out, those farther away from retirement who could benefit from it won't fight for it because it doesn't affect them yet and is just so far away.

Yes, we have a 24/7 news cycle, which in my opinion has made a lot of people numb. Let me put it this way, a few years ago I worked on a $50 million convention center construction project. The Project Manager for the contractor would send in RFIs on a daily basis (Requests for Information) asking for clarification on something from the architect or the owner.. at one point he had sent in over 300 of them, all 300 were marked "Urgent" in the priority box... know what happens when you have 300 and they are all marked "Urgent"? None of them are treated as urgent. That's where we are with the news.... Everything is a crisis to debate for hours on end... so when something is important, people are numb, desensitized, just flat too tired to care..


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Trump signed this invasion of privacy repeal! What a great guy... Now everything you do on your pc, phones, tablets, anything with wifi is all for sell to anybody that wants to buy it! Happy now Trump supporters?

This link tells you a lot of protections that just got signed away by the glorious leader.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/blakemontgomery/president-trump-just-repealed-landmark-internet-privacy

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