DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Josh Gordon News, Continued....

I suppose it could have happened, but we've not heard that.

What we've been told by a source that should know, is that he (pryor) was offered a 8 mill a year, 4 year deal.

That's all we know... We also know that Brown says that he blames the agents. That confirms nothing really so what you say may be the case, may actually be the case.

It just doesn't sound like it.

I didn't pay that much attention to him and his situation to know that, but that's interesting.

Does anyone think that Pryor is worth $12 to $15 mill a year?

I said this before and I think it bears repeating....long-term, this may be a good thing for the Browns. Yes, it sucks he is not on the roster, however, this is twice now that the front office met or exceeded market value for a player heading into FA, and that player never got what he thought he would. Couple in the fact, IF the Pryor situation was similar to Schwartz, if you don't take the fair deal the FO makes, you aren't getting it again, so sign on when you have the chance.

Moving forward, I think this carries weight for future contracts that the Browns aren't cheap and can target what a player's value is before hitting the market.

Pryor. (I doubt even his agent is that delusional) I say this with the caveat that he could develop into that type of receiver. Just don't think he's there yet. Has he peaked, or is his ceiling much higher? He certainly has the potential to get much better.

Even if he has a decent year, like making his bonuses and such, He'll be 29 next year and I don't think anyone is gonna throw big bucks at him. I think there will be to many WR's out there not to mention the draft for him to get the big bucks. IMO

Maybe it's the conservative nature in me, but I would jumped on that deal ...

Why would we match the 1 year show me deal? That is a deal which is purely and 100% oriented towards the player and not the team. I don't begrudge TP going that route but it's a player first option and we simply cannot afford that kind of distraction in my view. It's a danged shame as TP showed something - I wish him well.

I wish him well too but I still think he made a bad decision not accepting the reported 4yr, 32 mil deal.

j/c:

People only want to move on if posters bash what the Browns are doing. Look at how many people are bashing Pryor, but yeah, that's okay.

Why would we match the 1 year show me deal? That is a deal which is purely and 100% oriented towards the player and not the team. I don't begrudge TP going that route but it's a player first option and we simply cannot afford that kind of distraction in my view. It's a danged shame as TP showed something - I wish him well.

You know he just came off a 1 year prove it deal, right?

He put up great numbers last year with no QB. This year he'll have Cousin's throwing him the ball. He could easily put up all pro numbers and get a 4 year 50 mil deal.

I think once we signed Britt the door closed on Pryor. I think that was a very silly choice.

You know he just came off a 1 year prove it deal, right?

Washington also has more weapons than we did. I think they spread the ball around more and Cousins already has his go-to guy in Reed. It will be interesting to see how Pryor does in terms of targets.

Washington lost both Garcon and Deshawn Jackson in the FA market. There's a HUGE opportunity for Pryor to play a big role there with a much more accurate QB.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/mar/9/garcon-and-jackson-gone-redskins-face-dwindling-wi/

Face it, Gordon is a talented player, especially if he started out against 3rd string DBs. He's race up the depth chart, because hie talent would demand it. Then if he got himself suspended again, r his head went sideways again, then we're playing catch up getting someone else ready to take his spot.

Your "debating" with someone who doesn't understand that Reed and Crowder will actually help Pryor ...

U may want to re-think continuing on with the "debate" ... but thats just me ... *L* ...

BUT. People do mature differently, at different rates. When we look at professional football players, we see grown men, playing a grown man's game for huge money. And a good percentage of them are mature enough to handle the success and fame (though many are not). It is easy to forget, because of their size, poise and position, that these young men, in many ways, are still boys without the maturity it takes to approach their lives with intelligence and restraint. It's my HOPE that Gordon has grown over the past few years. That last season was a sincere move toward getting his life together.

We shall see. I hold him no ill will. I want him to succeed, and hope he can develop into the player he is surely meant to be. Given all that, I have no problem giving him yet another chance.

That's fine, lamp. However, no one player has screwed up as much as Gordon has and I have no faith that he will ever "get it."

People seem to forget how eerily similar the story w/Gordon always is. It wasn't his fault. He is working hard. He is in the best shape of his life. Then, he comes in out of shape. He is a new man. He plays like a lazy, disinterested bum. He misses meetings and practices. He gets suspended again. Fans support him. They defend him. Then, it's rinse and repeat.

I respect your opinion. I hope you respect mine that I will have faith in Gordon AFTER I have seen him stay on the team for 3+ years.

<<sigh>> I better edit that. Someone will say that he's been on the team longer than that. I am saying where he actually plays 3 full seasons.

They are a better team with Gordon than they are without him.

I'm pretty good at seeing both sides of this argument, and I respect your perspective on it as well.

Like I said earlier in this thread, winning cures everything. If he's scoring touchdowns and getting first downs, I'll be a happy man.

I think you are a good guy, Ted. And I like you. With that said, if Gordon is popping pills, drinking Purple Drank, getting inebriated on booze, smoking pot when he isn't supposed to, hanging out w/guys who have been busted for drugs and unregistered weapons, missing meetings, missing practices, being late to team functions, being out of shape, being disinterested in games, checking into rehab RIGHT before he is about to be reinstated after receving a very generous break from Goodell, etc, etc....then none of that is good for the team.

if Gordon is popping pills, drinking Purple Drank, getting inebriated on booze, smoking pot when he isn't supposed to, hanging out w/guys who have been busted for drugs and unregistered weapons, missing meetings, missing practices, being late to team functions, being out of shape, being disinterested in games,