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Mixon may never make it to the NFL because of what he did. Let's not forget Ray Rice.

I don't think the NFL could impose a ban or suspension on him for what he did in college.

If so, they should announce that before any teams spend a pick on him. That would be a bush league move against our team, or any team who selected him.

Teams need to know that going in.

As I said before, I'd take him if he was there at the top of the 4th round. Back is a fairly low priority, but he is too good to not take if he is there.

The first question I ask myself is can he help us win fooball games? I think so.

The next question I would ask myself is has he grown since that day? If I can say yes to that, then he is on the draft board.

I'd say if he's there in the 7th round... then still pass on him. We don't need that kind around here anymore. Manziel, Gordon, Armonty Bryant and the list continues, all losers.

It's about winning or building a cub scout troop


If he can help you win, do it.

Dude, he's going to get drafted and it'll be probably in the first three rounds. He's going to be playing for an NFL team next season.

Ray Rice was washed up. Plus, the incident was fresh news. Nobody was going to touch a backup, old RB for the heat they'd take. Mixon's incident was a "long" time ago and he's young. Different factors to address.

Plenty of backs to choose from with less the risk/history in this year's draft.

Here we go w/that dumb analogy again.

Hitting a woman does not make you tough. In fact, it proves that you are a freaking punk.

Peen didn't say Mixon was tough, or a punk, or anything in between.

I quoted him.

I know. And my point still stands.

Awesome, arch. LOL

My point still stands, too.

Calling someone a cub scout because he doesn't beat up woman is BS.

I know, most cub scouts are deviants.

Well, some cub scout troop leaders are.

Perhaps we should get them to play RB.

Who did that?

I think teams are seriously underestimating the blow back of drafting Mixon.

Yeah, that's what he said. Your skills at determining what a person's really saying are amazing. Personally, I don't believe we should draft him. I like who we have in place.

Thank you, but just so you know...........peen and I had discussed the topic previously. In fact, if your reading skills were "amazing," you might have picked that up earlier when I said:

Yeah we've taken those risks before. That's how we ended up with Gordon and Manziel. It's worked so well to this point we should just do it again!

NO!

We are not that desperate for RBs that we need to take a guy like him.

who ends up taking him? Cincy? NE? Oak? Sea?

There's only one team who I'd definitely rule out: Baltimore

Report: NFL GMs think Oklahoma RB Joe Mixon is undraftable

Every year, there are NFL draft prospects with plenty of talent, but off-field and character concerns make teams wary of spending a premium pick for their services, or drafting them at all.

One such player in the 2017 draft could be Oklahoma running back Joe Mixon, who was arrested in 2014 for punching a woman and breaking multiple bones in her face. He avoided jail time via a plea agreement, and was suspended by the Sooners for the 2014 season.

Mixon returned to the field in 2015, and has been a key part of Oklahoma’s offense for the past two seasons.

But video of the incident was recently released, and it could be having an impact on how NFL decision-makers view Mixon’s draft stock.

According to Tony Pauline of DraftAnalyst.com, NFL general managers think that Mixon isn’t just undraftable, but that he might have a tough time getting a deal as an undrafted free agent:


Since the release of the video, general managers around the league have told those close to Mixon he won’t get drafted, there’s a possibility he won’t be signed as a free agent and he may not even receive an invitation to the combine should he declare for the draft.

Based on just his on-field talent, Mixon would likely be considered a first-round prospect were he to declare for the 2017 draft, but it’s obviously not that simple. The NFL has dealt with multiple domestic violence issues with players in recent years, and teams appear to be more unwilling than ever to risk bringing in a player with this time of incident on their record.

That said, it only takes one team to view the potential reward as greater than the risk, hoping a player can turn over a new leaf and stay out of trouble. It will be interesting to see if Mixon chooses to return to Oklahoma, or takes a chance by making the jump to the pros this offseason.

http://draftwire.usatoday.com/2016/12/20/report-nfl-gms-think-oklahoma-rb-joe-mixon-is-undraftable/

It's too bad he did what he did, he looks like a really good back.

He's the best RB in the draft.

I'm all aboard if he can be a late round low investment selection. If he works out he is a steal...if not you lost a late round pick that chances were wasn't gonna make it no matter who you picked.

i bet he won't last beyond pick 40. Maybe 30. He's the best back IMO

I look at Michael Vick, and I think what he did was far worse.

Obviously, I'm not justifying what Mixon did, but when you compare a in the moment thing with something that happened over years and was carefully planned etc.

And then realize that Vick was then signed by a team, and was almost put on the cover of Madden right after coming back.

He has since played for multiple teams. All knowing what he did years ago.

What Mixon did happened years ago. The difference in a man between the ages of 21 and 24 can be astronomical.

I don't even think we "need" a RB. But if he's that talented, and he's falling down the boards? Yes. Draft him.

Encouraging dogs to fight and betting on the outcome is "far worse" than busting the bones in a young woman's face because she pushed you, you big, strong, football player badass?

I can't believe you said that.

This is a tough one.

A world class athlete pounding a girl.

I just watched the video. It looks like the girl definitely initiated physical contact. Pushing him and hitting him in the head as it looks like he's turning to walk away.

Obviously his punch was "over-kill". But it's not like he had to stand there and be the girl's punching bag.

This doesn't look like a career terminating incident to me.

And:

1) I am not in any way predisposed to Joe Mixon, and
2) I detest bullying behavior.

Do you forget that what happens to the dogs after the fights?

Like I said, I was comparing something that happened over YEARS, he went away for 2 years, Mixon got what, probation? So, obviously the courts deem one a lot worse than the other?

It happened 3 years ago. People are allowed to make mistakes and learn from them. I'm not saying he has. But if we denied every single player that ever had any run ins with the law the league (and HOF) would be decimated.

Have fun rooting for choir boys. I'm trying to win games.

I think the point dDub was trying to make was we tend to look at the "Vicks" of world as monsters because of what they did to animals. When we should be focusing on the real monsters of the world when we do bad things to humans. Big difference. Animals are not humans.

Let him go stand in the unemployment line with Kap.

Choir boys can't win games?

One committed his acts against animals.......the other humans. Sorry Mixon is way more morally culpable in my opinion at least.

Vick apologized at the right moment. Mixon apologized 2 years later, because his law team didn't want to make it seem like he was indicting himself.

Run-ins with the law can be any of thousands of possibilities that don't include busting the face of a young woman by the method of what is considered a man-sized punch.

How about if he'd shoved her back? Still very questionable in my book but much less violent than punching her as though she were a grown man.

You're as sick as he is if you condone that as a "run in with the law". The law has nothing to do with it. It's simply not right by any civilized standard of human behavior.

So, how many women have you punched in the face and if not, why not? AND, if you'd never punched a young woman in the face hard enough to break bones, does that make you a "choir boy"?

I don't want a guy like that on the team. If you do, I have not problem with that. To each his own. But to defend your position by comparing dogs to young women and favoring the dogs is way out there.

Those are some GIGANTIC holes he gets to run through...

That catch at ~1:00, though...

Ray Lewis most likely killed someone, or at least was involved in it.

He is a HOFer and is on TV probably every day (I don't watch ESPN)

Yeah, that makes it right.

and I think the other point trying to be made is in recognizing the difference between a single impassioned incident several years ago versus an ongoing, calculated, premeditated series of actions that occurred over a period of several years.

One of those, people were falling over themselves to forgive & forget, the other people are reluctant to give the guy a 2nd chance.

There is definitely an inequality here.

Show me where I said what he did was right.

My entire point is that it was years ago, and that hopefully he has learned from it, more than just not punching women. Like, deep inside learning type crap.