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Susan Rice Ordered Spy Agencies To Produce ‘Detailed Spreadsheets’ Involving Trump

http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/03/susan-...nvolving-trump/

By RICHARD POLLOCK
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10:08 PM 04/03/2017

Former President Barack Obama’s national security adviser Susan Rice ordered U.S. spy agencies to produce “detailed spreadsheets” of legal phone calls involving Donald Trump and his aides when he was running for president, according to former U.S. Attorney Joseph diGenova.

“What was produced by the intelligence community at the request of Ms. Rice were detailed spreadsheets of intercepted phone calls with unmasked Trump associates in perfectly legal conversations with individuals,” diGenova told The Daily Caller News Foundation Investigative Group Monday.

“The overheard conversations involved no illegal activity by anybody of the Trump associates, or anyone they were speaking with,” diGenova said. “In short, the only apparent illegal activity was the unmasking of the people in the calls.”

Other knowledgeable official sources with direct knowledge and who requested anonymity confirmed to TheDCNF diGenova’s description of surveillance reports Rice ordered one year before the 2016 presidential election.

Also on Monday, Fox News and Bloomberg News, citing multiple sources reported that Rice had requested the intelligence information that was produced in a highly organized operation. Fox said the unmasked names of Trump aides were given to officials at the National Security Council (NSC), the Department of Defense, James Clapper, President Obama’s Director of National Intelligence, and John Brennan, Obama’s CIA Director.

Joining Rice in the alleged White House operations was her deputy Ben Rhodes, according to Fox.

Critics of the atmosphere prevailing throughout the Obama administration’s last year in office point to former Obama Deputy Defense Secretary Evelyn Farkas who admitted in a March 2 television interview on MSNBC that she “was urging my former colleagues,” to “get as much information as you can, get as much intelligence as you can, before President Obama leaves the administration.”

Farkas sought to walk back her comments in the weeks following: “I didn’t give anybody anything except advice.”

Col. (Ret.) James Waurishuk, an NSC veteran and former deputy director for intelligence at the U.S. Central Command, told TheDCNF that many hands had to be involved throughout the Obama administration to launch such a political spying program.

“The surveillance initially is the responsibility of the National Security Agency,” Waurishuk said. “They have to abide by this guidance when one of the other agencies says, ‘we’re looking at this particular person which we would like to unmask.’”

“The lawyers and counsel at the NSA surely would be talking to the lawyers and members of counsel at CIA, or at the National Security Council or at the Director of National Intelligence or at the FBI,” he said. “It’s unbelievable of the level and degree of the administration to look for information on Donald Trump and his associates, his campaign team and his transition team. This is really, really serious stuff.”

Michael Doran, former NSC senior director, told TheDCNF Monday that “somebody blew a hole in the wall between national security secrets and partisan politics.” This “was a stream of information that was supposed to be hermetically sealed from politics and the Obama administration found a way to blow a hole in that wall.”

Doran charged that potential serious crimes were undertaken because “this is a leaking of signal intelligence.”

“That’s a felony,” he told TheDCNF. “And you can get 10 years for that. It is a tremendous abuse of the system. We’re not supposed to be monitoring American citizens. Bigger than the crime, is the breach of public trust.”

Waurishuk said he was most dismayed that “this is now using national intelligence assets and capabilities to spy on the elected, yet-to-be-seated president.”

“We’re looking at a potential constitutional crisis from the standpoint that we used an extremely strong capability that’s supposed to be used to safeguard and protect the country,” he said. “And we used it for political purposes by a sitting President. That takes on a new precedent.”

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So Trump was correct about Obama & Co. spying on him.... Right?

Personally? I think Trump probably was correct, and I don't even like him much at all. He is entertaining though! laugh

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As I warned...

The corruption and underhandedness of Obama and his people will come out.

In his last days, Obama changed the rules just so she could unmask private American Citizens. Next we will find out that he requested her to get the info out there.

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How come Conley didn't mention this?


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Blackwater founder held secret Seychelles meeting to establish Trump-Putin back channel

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The United Arab Emirates arranged a secret meeting in January between Blackwater founder Erik Prince and a Russian close to President Vladi­mir Putin as part of an apparent effort to establish a back-channel line of communication between Moscow and President-elect Donald Trump, according to U.S., European and Arab officials.

The meeting took place around Jan. 11 — nine days before Trump’s inauguration — in the Seychelles islands in the Indian Ocean, officials said. Though the full agenda remains unclear, the UAE agreed to broker the meeting in part to explore whether Russia could be persuaded to curtail its relationship with Iran, including in Syria, a Trump administration objective that would be likely to require major concessions to Moscow on U.S. sanctions.

Though Prince had no formal role with the Trump campaign or transition team, he presented himself as an unofficial envoy for Trump to high-ranking Emiratis involved in setting up his meeting with the Putin confidant, according to the officials, who did not identify the Russian.

Prince was an avid supporter of Trump. After the Republican convention, he contributed $250,000 to Trump’s campaign, the national party and a pro-Trump super PAC led by GOP mega-donor Rebekah Mercer, records show. He has ties to people in Trump’s circle, including Stephen K. Bannon, now serving as the president’s chief strategist and senior counselor. Prince’s sister Betsy DeVos serves as education secretary in the Trump administration. And Prince was seen in the Trump transition offices in New York in December.

U.S. officials said the FBI has been scrutinizing the Seychelles meeting as part of a broader probe of Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. election and alleged contacts between associates of Putin and Trump. The FBI declined to comment.


The Seychelles encounter, which one official said spanned two days, adds to an expanding web of connections between Russia and Americans with ties to Trump — contacts that the White House has been reluctant to acknowledge or explain until they have been exposed by news organizations.

“We are not aware of any meetings, and Erik Prince had no role in the transition,” said Sean Spicer, the White House press secretary.

A Prince spokesman said in a statement: “Erik had no role on the transition team. This is a complete fabrication. The meeting had nothing to do with President Trump. Why is the so-called under-resourced intelligence community messing around with surveillance of American citizens when they should be hunting terrorists?”

Prince is best known as the founder of Blackwater, a security firm that became a symbol of U.S. abuses in Iraq after a series of incidents, including one in 2007 in which the company’s guards were accused — and later criminally convicted — of killing civilians in a crowded Iraqi square. Prince sold the firm, which was subsequently re-branded, but has continued building a private paramilitary empire with contracts across the Middle East and Asia. He now heads a Hong Kong-based company known as the Frontier Services Group.

Prince would probably have been seen as too controversial to serve in any official capacity in the Trump transition or administration. But his ties to Trump advisers, experience with clandestine work and relationship with the royal leaders of the Emirates — where he moved in 2010 amid mounting legal problems for his American business — would have positioned him as an ideal go-between.

The Seychelles meeting came after separate private discussions in New York involving high-ranking representatives of Trump with both Moscow and the Emirates.

The White House has acknowledged that Michael T. Flynn, Trump’s original national security adviser, and Trump adviser and son-in-law Jared Kushner met with the Russian ambassador to the United States, Sergey Kislyak, in late November or early December in New York.

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Flynn and Kushner were joined by Bannon for a separate meeting with the crown prince of Abu Dhabi, Sheikh Mohamed bin Zayed al-Nahyan, who made an undisclosed visit to New York later in December, according to the U.S., European and Arab officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive matters.

In an unusual breach of protocol, the UAE did not notify the Obama administration in advance of the visit, though officials found out because Zayed’s name appeared on a flight manifest.

Officials said Zayed and his brother, the UAE’s national security adviser, coordinated the Seychelles meeting with Russian government officials with the goal of establishing an unofficial back channel between Trump and Putin.

Officials said Zayed wanted to be helpful to both leaders, who had talked about working more closely together, a policy objective long advocated by the crown prince. The UAE, which sees Iran as one of its main enemies, also shared the Trump team’s interest in finding ways to drive a wedge between Moscow and Tehran.

Zayed met twice with Putin in 2016, according to Western officials, and urged the Russian leader to work more closely with the Emirates and Saudi Arabia — an effort to isolate Iran.

At the time of the Seychelles meeting and for weeks afterward, the UAE believed that Prince had the blessing of the new administration to act as its unofficial representative. The Russian participant was a person whom Zayed knew was close to Putin from his interactions with both men, the officials said.

Scrutiny over Russia
When the Seychelles meeting took place, official contacts between members of the incoming Trump administration and the Russian government were under intense scrutiny, both from federal investigators and the press.

Less than a week before the Seychelles meeting, U.S. intelligence agencies released a report accusing Russia of intervening clandestinely during the 2016 election to help Trump win the White House.

The FBI was already investigating communications between Flynn and Kislyak. The Washington Post’s David Ignatius first disclosed those communications on Jan. 12, around the time of the Seychelles meeting. Flynn was subsequently fired by Trump for misleading Vice President Pence and others about his discussions with Kislyak.

Yousef Al Otaiba, the UAE’s ambassador in Washington, declined to comment.

Government officials in the Seychelles said they were not aware of any meetings between Trump and Putin associates in the country around Jan. 11. But they said luxury resorts on the island are ideal for clandestine gatherings like the one described by the U.S., European and Arab officials.

“I wouldn’t be surprised at all,” said Barry Faure, the Seychelles secretary of state for foreign affairs. “The Seychelles is the kind of place where you can have a good time away from the eyes of the media. That’s even printed in our tourism marketing. But I guess this time you smelled something.”

Trump has dismissed the investigations of Russia’s role in the election as “fake news” and a “witch hunt.”

The level of discretion surrounding the Seychelles meeting seems extraordinary given the frequency with which senior Trump advisers, including Flynn and Kushner, had interacted with Russian officials in the United States, including at the high-profile Trump Tower in New York.

Steven Simon, a National Security Council senior director for the Middle East and North Africa in the Obama White House, said: “The idea of using business cutouts, or individuals perceived to be close to political leaders, as a tool of diplomacy is as old as the hills. These unofficial channels are desirable precisely because they are deniable; ideas can be tested without the risk of failure.”

Current and former U.S. officials said that while Prince refrained from playing a direct role in the Trump transition, his name surfaced so frequently in internal discussions that he seemed to function as an outside adviser whose opinions were valued on a range of issues, including plans for overhauling the U.S. intelligence community.

He appears to have particularly close ties to Bannon, appearing multiple times on the Breitbart satellite radio program and website that Bannon ran before joining the Trump campaign.

In a July interview with Bannon, Prince said those seeking forceful U.S. leadership should “wait till January and hope Mr. Trump is elected.” And he lashed out at President Barack Obama, saying that because of his policies “the terrorists, the fascists, are winning.”

Days before the November election, Prince appeared on the Breitbart radio program, saying that he had “well-placed sources” in the New York City Police Department telling him they were preparing to make arrests in the investigation of former congressman Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.) over allegations he exchanged sexually explicit texts with a minor. Flynn tweeted a link to the Breitbart report on the claim. No arrests occurred.

Prince went on to make unfounded assertions that damaging material recovered from Weiner’s computers would implicate Hillary Clinton and her close adviser, Huma Abedin, who was married to Weiner. He also called Abedin an “agent of influence very sympathetic to the Muslim Brotherhood.”

Prince and his family were major GOP donors in 2016. The Center for Responsive Politics reported that the family gave more than $10 million to GOP candidates and super PACs, including about $2.7 million from his sister, DeVos, and her husband.

Prince’s father, Edgar Prince, built his fortune through an auto-parts company. Betsy married Richard DeVos Jr., heir to the Amway fortune.

Erik Prince has had lucrative contracts with the UAE government, which at one point paid his firm a reported $529 million to help bring in foreign fighters to help assemble an internal paramilitary force capable of carrying out secret operations and protecting Emirati installations from terrorist attacks.

Focus on Iran
The Trump administration and the UAE appear to share a similar preoccupation with Iran. Current and former officials said that Trump advisers were focused throughout the transition period on exploring ways to get Moscow to break ranks with Tehran.

“Separating Russia from Iran was a common theme,” said a former intelligence official in the Obama administration who met with Trump transition officials. “It didn’t seem very well thought out. It seemed a little premature. They clearly had a very specific policy position, which I found odd given that they hadn’t even taken the reins and explored with experts in the U.S. government the pros and cons of that approach.”

Michael McFaul, former U.S. ambassador to Russia, said he also had discussions with people close to the Trump administration about the prospects of drawing Russia away from Iran. “When I would hear this, I would think, ‘Yeah that’s great for you guys, but why would Putin ever do that?’ ” McFaul said. “There is no interest in Russia ever doing that. They have a long relationship with Iran. They’re allied with Iran in fighting in Syria. They sell weapons to Iran. Iran is an important strategic partner for Russia in the Middle East.”

Following the New York meeting between the Emiratis and Trump aides, Zayed was approached by Prince, who said he was authorized to act as an unofficial surrogate for the president-elect, according to the officials. He wanted Zayed to set up a meeting with a Putin associate. Zayed agreed and proposed the Seychelles as the meeting place because of the privacy it would afford both sides. “He wanted to be helpful,” one official said of Zayed.

Wealthy Russians and Emirati royalty have a particularly large footprint on the islands. Signs advertising deep-sea fishing trips are posted in Cyrillic. Russian billionaire Mikhail Prokhorov owns North Island, where Prince William and Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge, went on their honeymoon in 2011. Sheikh Khalifa bin Zayed al-Nahyan, president of the UAE, built a hilltop palace for himself with views across the chain of islands.

The Emiratis have given hundreds of millions of dollars to the Seychelles in recent years for causes including public health and affordable housing. But when the Emirati royal family visits, they are rarely seen.

“The jeep comes to their private jet on the tarmac and they disappear,” said one Seychellois official who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he did not want to be seen as criticizing the Emiratis.

Zayed, the crown prince, owns a share of the Seychelles’ Four Seasons, a collection of private villas scattered on a lush hillside on the main island’s southern shore, overlooking the Indian Ocean, according to officials in the Seychelles. The hotel is tucked away on a private beach, far from the nearest public road.

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Comey is coming under investigation too now.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Comey is coming under investigation too now.


Depends on if this story is confirmed or not.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Comey is coming under investigation too now.


Depends on if this story is confirmed or not.


IF ...

*LOL* ... that's pretty optimistic on your part ....




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Comey is coming under investigation too now.


Depends on if this story is confirmed or not.


IF ...

*LOL* ... that's pretty optimistic on your part ....


It was neither optimistic nor pessimistic, so I dunno what you're talking about.

The last time a former judge made claims like this, he ended up getting suspended on Fox News of all places for straight up lying. So when former <insert profession> make claims with unverifiable sources, no matter who they are targeting, one would be wise to see what the word on the street is.

So yea this needs to be investigated.


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You have not been keeping up. The Judge is back at FOX and his Sources have been checked out and confirmed!

http://dailycaller.com/2017/03/29/fox-ne...ng-claim-video/

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I've been keeping up. I know he's back. I also know Fox News has cut his air time commentating quite a bit since then. Wonder why.


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I posted that on FB when I saw it.

I surely do hope this is fake news. But on a side note, it does shed light on how Betsy Devos got her job that she's clearly unqualified for.

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That Judge is also a 9/11 Truther.

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I'm sure Trump can clear all this up by simply releasing his tax returns.


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So the guy who broke the story, Mike Cernovich, is a funny guy.

This let's me know how gullible trump supporters are. This is the same dude who help promote pizzagate with Alex Jones which if I remember, some posters on this very board also bought into.

Sad, very sad.

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So the guy who broke the story, Mike Cernovich, is a funny guy.

This let's me know how gullible trump supporters are. This is the same dude who help promote pizzagate with Alex Jones which if I remember, some posters on this very board also bought into.

Sad, very sad.


I'd have to say it's not fake news whatsoever, but I'm a conspiracy theorist.

You know what they say, where there's smoke, there's fire? Not always true but scroll down this website and see the "smoke."

http://pizzagate.com/

For me? Just too many things pointing to it could very well be true. I think it is. I've heard about this kind of stuff for years on end.

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Pizzagate? You might want to check out the part about the basement that the building doesn't have. lol


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Pizzagate? You might want to check out the part about the basement that the building doesn't have. lol


"Because a lot of restaurants will open a can and put it on. Like our sauce — we harvest a whole crop of organic tomatoes — 10 tons of tomatoes every year. Can them all, store them in the basement, have like a harvest party when it gets loaded in." - James Alefantis

Link:

http://www.metroweekly.com/2015/04/from-scratch-james-alefantis/

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'Substantial Evidence of a Basement at Comet Ping Pong'

Other supporting evidence that lends a high probability of a chamber below Comet Ping Pong, is a confirmed basement level in a neighboring business, Politics and Prose (which is in the same building as Comet Ping Pong) Across the street there is Joe's Basement Bar, so we know buildings in the immediate vicinity have basements.

Link:

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1453433

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It is so nice to read FACTS for a change. thumbsup

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Yep. Like How Donald Trump raped that 12 year old girl and told her to have an abortion.

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Pizzagate? You might want to check out the part about the basement that the building doesn't have. lol


"Because a lot of restaurants will open a can and put it on. Like our sauce — we harvest a whole crop of organic tomatoes — 10 tons of tomatoes every year. Can them all, store them in the basement, have like a harvest party when it gets loaded in." - James Alefantis

Link:

http://www.metroweekly.com/2015/04/from-scratch-james-alefantis/



https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle...m=.9a6b86c0f921

Like Pastan, James Alefantis, owner of Comet Ping Pong, doesn’t build his pizza sauce with DOP San Marzanos. For seven years, he has been buying late-harvest tomatoes from Toigo Orchards in Shippensburg, Pa., and canning them at nearby Stello Foods for use at Comet. Last year, Alefantis estimates, he bought 12 tons of Toigo tomatoes, which Stello turned into sauce and canned before trucking the jars to the basement at Buck’s Fishing & Camping, Alefantis’s other restaurant just a few steps down the block on Connecticut Avenue NW.

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Pizzagate? You might want to check out the part about the basement that the building doesn't have. lol


"Because a lot of restaurants will open a can and put it on. Like our sauce — we harvest a whole crop of organic tomatoes — 10 tons of tomatoes every year. Can them all, store them in the basement, have like a harvest party when it gets loaded in." - James Alefantis

Link:

http://www.metroweekly.com/2015/04/from-scratch-james-alefantis/



https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle...m=.9a6b86c0f921

Like Pastan, James Alefantis, owner of Comet Ping Pong, doesn’t build his pizza sauce with DOP San Marzanos. For seven years, he has been buying late-harvest tomatoes from Toigo Orchards in Shippensburg, Pa., and canning them at nearby Stello Foods for use at Comet. Last year, Alefantis estimates, he bought 12 tons of Toigo tomatoes, which Stello turned into sauce and canned before trucking the jars to the basement at Buck’s Fishing & Camping, Alefantis’s other restaurant just a few steps down the block on Connecticut Avenue NW.


Don't all the kiddie pictures and odd, sexually tinged texts make you wonder at all? I certainly do.

BTW, I'm not one to hammer it out with others here, CHSDawg. (I know some posters here live for this! laugh ) You can believe what you want to, just as I can.

Have a good day.

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I think Conservatives in these circles have pretty much exhausted any sort of honesty or credibility in such cases. ACORN, Planned Parenthood, Anti-Trump rallies, everything they do is a falsehood. They're hard to take serious.

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Heck, Rice admitted that she did it.

Her exact quote was "I leaked nothing to nobody" ...... which of course is a double negative, and which actually means "I leaked everything to everyone".


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Take a look at this first:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/q-unmasking-why-obama-adviser-211132860.html

Or

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/susan-rice-speaks-out-on-%e2%80%98unmasking%e2%80%99-accusations-%e2%80%98i-leaked-nothing-to-nobody%e2%80%99/ar-BBzlP9E

Accusations aren't proof..


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If you don't like your name popping up on intelligence reports when you make back door deals with Putin. Don't make back door deals with Putin.


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Can you prove that PRES. TRUMP made "back door deals "with PUTIN?

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The Dilbert man has a good take on this. I also enjoyed the not so subtle disses of the New York Times and Clinton News Network.

I would expect some people to take issue with the hypnotist speculation at the end, and I agree that is a shaky (albeit interesting) opinion. The rest of the piece is very solid.

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http://blog.dilbert.com/post/159226601511/how-a-hypnotist-sees-a-verbal-slip

A few days ago, Mike Cernovich broke the news that ex-Obama advisor Susan Rice had asked for the identities of Americans caught up in electronic surveillance of foreigners, including some Trump associates. After Mike broke the story, the big news organizations followed. I asked my well-informed Trump-hating friend what he thought of the story.

He said he hadn’t heard of it.

I was surprised. It was the headline news. While we were on the phone, he checked CNN’s website on his computer and informed me that no such story existed. In his words, it was probably “fake news” that he assumed I saw “on Breitbart” or some other site he considers below his standard of news excellence.

So I asked him to navigate over to Business Insider (partly owned by Jeff Bezos) to see if the story was there. And sure enough, it was. Prominently. My friend read the story and agreed it should have been covered on CNN as well.

That’s when I had the entertaining experience of explaining to my friend that his news habit of relying on CNN and the New York Times made him more of a victim of manipulation than a consumer of news. I explained that unless he is sampling stories from both sides (left and right), he is being completely misled by one of the sides. Both sides get the facts right, usually, and eventually. The manipulation comes in the form of what they emphasize and what they deemphasize. CNN apparently decided that the Susan Rice story was not important news. Coincidentally, this particular news also made them look like ridiculous turds for mocking the Trump “wiretapping” claim non-stop as a sign of the president’s character and perhaps his sanity.

We don’t know all the facts yet, but we do know that Trump’s claim of being “wiretapped” by Obama is starting to look dangerously close to something similar to the truth. CNN did not see that coming, and it would be awkward to walk-back all of their mocking. So they just sort of ignored it.

A few days after the event, when I assumed CNN had caught up to the pack, I Googled “Susan Rice” to update myself on the story before writing this blog post. CNN’s top story on Susan Rice is from 2012. See it at the bottom.

[Screenshot of Google results with old CNN article near the bottom]

Anyway, my point today is about Susan Rice’s unusual wording in denying any leaking of the Trump surveillance information. She said, “I leaked nothing to nobody and never have and never would.”

When I learned to be a hypnotist, my instructor taught the class that some types of verbal slips are actually a message of honesty from the subconscious. Rice’s odd wording leaves open the possibility that she leaked SOMETHING to someone. To a hypnotist, Rice’s choice of words would be regarded as an unintentional confession of leaking.

To be perfectly clear, I have no science to back this point. And I assume some hypnotists would see it differently. But I have been tracking this sort of verbal slip for decades, and I find it surprisingly predictive.

The example our hypnosis teacher used in class is that when you are on a first date with a woman, and she intends to say, “I’m famished,” but uses the wrong word and says, “I’m ravished” instead, she is signalling an interest in sex. I didn’t believe that was true until a woman mixed-up those two words on a date with me. That date worked out well.

I don’t know if Susan Rice is being honest in her denial of leaking. But if I had to bet, I’d go with my training.

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Yep. Like How Donald Trump raped that 12 y
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Can you prove that?

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Can you prove that PRES. TRUMP made "back door deals "with PUTIN?


Did I mentioned Trump? Typical. willynilly


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Yep. Like How Donald Trump raped that 12 y
ear old girl and told her to have an abortion.

Can you prove that?

There is nothing to it, just typical baseless/reckless speculation. CHS and I had an exchange about this a while back and it was rather funny how fast he changed his tune when asked for the evidence:

https://www.dawgtalkers.net/ubbthreads.ph...one#Post1185208

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About that: CHS, you said that in the next six months, a lot more was going to come out about that. It has been six months. What have you found out?

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About that: CHS, you said that in the next six months, a lot more was going to come out about that. It has been six months. What have you found out?


That DJT raped a 12 year old and HRC killed 7 people and made it look like suicide.

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I acknowledge your sarcasm but you'll have to forgive me, as I still find you continuing to bring this up to be distasteful.

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I acknowledge your sarcasm but you'll have to forgive me, as I still find you continuing to bring this up to be distasteful.


This is how I find most of your posts. Your HRC has dementia nonsense. The talk of pizzagate. How Bill Clinton murdered 8 political aides or enemies. How do you think everyone else feels reading your filth on the forums? None of it is based in reality, yet you and Conservatives post it nonstop. Now it's distasteful because it's about DJT? Your hypocrisy is gross.

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I acknowledge your sarcasm but you'll have to forgive me, as I still find you continuing to bring this up to be distasteful.


This is how I find most of your posts. Your HRC has dementia nonsense. The talk of pizzagate. How Bill Clinton murdered 8 political aides or enemies. How do you think everyone else feels reading your filth on the forums? None of it is based in reality, yet you and Conservatives post it nonstop. Now it's distasteful because it's about DJT? Your hypocrisy is gross.


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I acknowledge your sarcasm but you'll have to forgive me, as I still find you continuing to bring this up to be distasteful.


This is how I find most of your posts. Your HRC has dementia nonsense. The talk of pizzagate. How Bill Clinton murdered 8 political aides or enemies. How do you think everyone else feels reading your filth on the forums? None of it is based in reality, yet you and Conservatives post it nonstop. Now it's distasteful because it's about DJT? Your hypocrisy is gross.

You must be thinking of somebody else, or maybe you are imagining things again.

I have not even brought up most of those things. Pizzagate? When did I bring that up? Show me.

When have I talked about the Clinton's murdering political enemies? Show me.

Believe it or not, I try to avoid topics that I feel don't have strong enough evidence to bring up, or ones that I'm simply not informed enough about.

The only thing that is even remotely accurate about your post is that I had often brought up Clinton's health in the past. I did think it was alarming that we had a major Presidential candidate that would go on 5 minute coughing fits, showed bizarre seizure like symptoms in public, passed out during an important memorial service last year, etc. You're exaggerating my thoughts on that (as usual) but at least it has some basis in reality.

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