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I'd assume we are just considering using picks after 65 - so maybe move up a few slots to late 1st? Toss in #108, #145, #175 in addition to #33.

CB Kevin King
LB TJ Watt
CB Gareon Conley
FS Budda Baker

I will say I don't see it. Browns will have all the leverage starting Day 2.

I have grown to like Obi-wu. He has size and athleticism, but is raw. He's the kind of player who may take a year or two to fully develop but has a high ceiling when he does. He is probably better pick at #52 so moving up into the 1st to take him is probably a bit early.

I would absolutely be in favor of a big trade up for Foster or Peppers.
I hate the idea of Trubisky at 12, and would hope that is actually Hooker.

Add a third someone that will be an impact difference maker kinda player. We're all set with having a bunch of "guys", now we need players.

I'd be surprised if the FO picks a QB early. I think that in their hyperawareness, they know nothing sinks an FO here like drafting a QB early.

Hooker would be a surprise to make it to 12. I want to say Howard but it seems unlikely he makes it, too.

My ideal plausible scenario at this point is probably:

1. Myles Garrett, DE
12. OJ Howard, TE
33. Cordrea Tankersley, CB Clemson
52. Marcus Williams, FS Utah
65. Sydney Jones, CB Washington

If the assumption is Garrett and Trubisky, I simply draft every bpa between CB and Safety until the fourth round.

I wish they pass on a QB in the first. Hope Adams or Hooker falls to #12. If neither, take Howard, Davis, or Cook. Then, draft best CB on the board until the fourth where I take Peterman or Webb.

I like the thought of a defensive guy at #12 but an offensive play maker and edge rusher in the first round can't hurt.

Baker, King, best DB

I think we'll either be sprinting to the podium at #12 or trading down.

I guess I'm one of the few here that never understood Trub. at #12. In my mind, if the FO thought enough of him that high anyway, they wouldn't chance him being gone, they would just take him at #1. So, if they did in fact take him at #12, then they are really reaching here. I would trade up to #6 and take Hooker, rather than wait around to see who's at #12.

I agree 100% +1

who do you think someone would be trading up for?

After 1 and 12, I wouldn't mind us wheeling and dealing to net us more 1st round ammo for next year. Seems like that's the better year to land a QB, and we should be a better team.

Probably a tackle or an edge rusher. Hard to say when we don't know who will go where. There are only 3 worthy tackles in the draft right now, someone might get desperate if one is taken early. I could see someone like Solomon Thomas sliding on draft day. Really hard to say, but I'd guess it'd be a linemen, which is weird to say.

Correct Me if I'm wrong, but after #1 and #12 what do we use for a number 1 next year? I guess we could use #33 and trade it for next year, but we need players now.

I could see Allen sliding before Thomas. I think Thomas is really hot right now just after Garrett. I could see a bid war on someone moving up to snag him.

Yeah, Allen could be another target as well. Reuben Foster. At the end of the day someone will trade up to get top 15 talent.

If Thomas, Allen, or Howard fell to 12, You would have to be looking at a likely top half of the 1st round next year pick on top of a top 20 or so pick this year to even get me thinking about trading down.

j/c

Somewhere I read someone opining that the Jets are tanking this year for Darnold. That would make it tough to trade up to get him...assuming he is the top choice.

Yes, and there is already talk that he might not come out next year. So If they tank and he stays

I don't believe teams tank the season for a certain player, anything could happen that player may stay in school which you mentioned or he could sustain a career ending injury God forbid, but its possible you tanked for someone you can't get ...

There's like possibly 4 QBs coming out next year worth the first pick. I think the QB class is just going to get stronger and stronger as more QBs have been chucking the ball in the spread since jr high.

Lets just forget a QB at 12. I'd be ok trading up in to the bottom of the first for a QB, but only OK. Just wait until the 2nd round and see who is there. I think a lot of them will be there.

There are a lot of teams who want QBs to be taken in the first round. That will drop more "good" players to them. Let's don't be "suckers".

If we take anyone but Garrett with our first pick, I might hang myself from my front deck. If we trade out, it better be for a boatlaod, and I mean a boatlod of picks.

At 12, it could be any number of players. I think both the safeties will be gone. If OJ Howard is there, he is the only offensive player I would take in round 1 if things stand as they are. He becomes our #1 receiver, day one. I'd take him over anybody at #12 except maybe Adams or Hooker.

Many of you are too young to remember Ozzie as a player, but he was our #1 receiver, make no mistake about that. OJ is every bit as good as him. I'd tap the Bama TE connection again and see it all play out over again.

OJ at 12.

I gotta say, I'm not crazy about trading up from #33. It's the first pick of the 2nd day (as is the first pick in the 4th on the 3rd day.) The Browns and other teams will have the opportunity to re-evaluate overnight and realize a particular opportunity that got lost in the hustle & bustle of the on-going draft.

I could see us trading up into the very end of the first round if the QB we want is still available. Getting that fifth year option is a huge deal, especially when it comes to QBs.

Yeah, the only reason I'd trade up is for a QB. 5th year is the difference. If not, stay put. 33 is a valuable spot

Obi is more of an athlete than a football player IMO. I watch a fair amount of UConn, and I've never been that impressed with him. I liked Ibraheim Campbell out of Northwestern more...... (which might show how much I know)


But yeah, give me Buddah Baker over him any day of the week and then some.

I agree. That is why I said I'd be OK with trading up from 33, but even then I'd probably still feel a little bit like we paid too much.

selfishly, i don't want us to trade up from 33. it gives me something to look forward to all day friday ... and research. 33 is a great spot

Yeah, Curtis Painter is the best QB Indy could have played the year they drafted Luck.

It is indeed! I would expect the Browns phones to be very busy late Thursday night into Friday morning...

I do think Indy tanked for Luck. Unless you're telling me that Indy couldn't have picked up a better QB than Curtis Painter.

I think it's very rare that a team would do this. But if the right QB is going to be available to set their team up at the position for the next 12-14 years, I believe at that juncture it's a possibility.

As for the Jets this coming season? I have no idea.

j/c

Does Cleveland trade their twelve pick to Houston? If Cleveland does not want a QB in the first round, is trading with Houston to far down. What would it take do you think to make a trade? Obviously you want at least a first round next year and maybe this years second.

The front office did not set the team up for success (this sounds familiar), but the players and coaches were trying to win. I think Jim Caldwell got fired after that season, I bet he would have preferred to win a few more games (I believe the whole front office was fired too).