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Originally Posted By: Swish
Maybe i'm out of line for saying this.....but channing frye has zero business starting.

As a matter of fact, since TT missed time, and might miss the rest of the regular season, i rather us start Larry Sanders.

Frye is best when coming off the bench. he absolutely sucks trying to start. the numbers said he did ok, but watching the game...ugh.


yeah frye is just so hard to watch sometimes..when he's hitting shots he's effective. Given how we were playing last night, it would have been a perfect time to expand the bench a little..Dwill and RJ are done. They provide nothing anymore either...Sanders if he's playing like he did back before the break would easily be our starting 5, he's had a pretty productive stint in dleague, I don't see any reason not to give him some minutes with our big 3. I truly think our biggest hole right now is coaching. The talent is there, getting it to work together isn't. That's on Lue..why did we sign dwill to just bring the ball up and pass off to lebron...makes no sense..noone's minutes have come down, if anything they've gone up the last 10 games


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Normally I disagree with Lead's posts (not publicly), but I have to agree with this one. The Larry Sanders Show needs a chance with the starting unit to see if it's going to work. A rim protector is sorely needed right now.

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Cavaliers waive DeAndre Liggins days before end of season
http://www.thescore.com/news/1276226

Report: Cavaliers considering Varejao for vacant roster spot
http://www.thescore.com/news/1276260


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I know it's a business and Griffin has to make the moves he believes are necessary to win a second championship but I hate reading guys getting waived this late. He gave the Cavs a lot this year.


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Maybe I don't see the behind the scenes stuff, but I thought Liggins worked his butt off this year and never really got a lot of playing time.

We are pretty desperate for big men though. Teams that have legit centers give us fits because we don't have a guy that can (or wants to) bang down low.

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We apparently do better against Atlanta's starters too.

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Complete meltdown. Lue is trash


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Originally Posted By: Rishuz
I know it's a business and Griffin has to make the moves he believes are necessary to win a second championship but I hate reading guys getting waived this late. He gave the Cavs a lot this year.


I personally think Griffin is more lucky than good. This is a bad move. You're going to want liggs defense come playoffs. Meanwhile you have a guy like James jones stealing paychecks. I love Andy but he better not be the guy. I rather bring Moreland up or get a guy like Terrence Jones


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Geeze, spoke too soon

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I am trying to resist the urge of calling the Cavs trash right now.

44 points in the 4th quarter. 44-18.

When does Lue get some blame here? I'm tired of blaming the players.

Bye, bye 1 seed.


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I know it's a business and Griffin has to make the moves he believes are necessary to win a second championship but I hate reading guys getting waived this late. He gave the Cavs a lot this year.


I personally think Griffin is more lucky than good. This is a bad move. You're going to want liggs defense come playoffs. Meanwhile you have a guy like James jones stealing paychecks. I love Andy but he better not be the guy. I rather bring Moreland up or get a guy like Terrence Jones


Any GM that has Lebron is definitely lucky.


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Originally Posted By: leadtheway
I personally think Griffin is more lucky than good. This is a bad move. You're going to want liggs defense come playoffs. Meanwhile you have a guy like James jones stealing paychecks. I love Andy but he better not be the guy. I rather bring Moreland up or get a guy like Terrence Jones


We need Ligg's defense, but if Lue refuses to play him, then what's the point? Might as well make a spot for a Center, because we really need that right now.

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Originally Posted By: Rishuz
I am trying to resist the urge of calling the Cavs trash right now.

44 points in the 4th quarter. 44-18.

When does Lue get some blame here? I'm tired of blaming the players.

Bye, bye 1 seed.


I've been on this train for awhile, we have a coaching problem. You put pops in his seat with this team and we win 70+. Lue is basically mike brown without the defense. Last year a lot went right and the big three carried it


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I dont think its the players. I want to like Lue, but I feel this team is badly coached. I think we won last year through sheer willpower and talent. But it wont cover up bad coaching forever.


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I personally think Griffin is more lucky than good. This is a bad move. You're going to want liggs defense come playoffs. Meanwhile you have a guy like James jones stealing paychecks. I love Andy but he better not be the guy. I rather bring Moreland up or get a guy like Terrence Jones


We need Ligg's defense, but if Lue refuses to play him, then what's the point? Might as well make a spot for a Center, because we really need that right now.


I'm just saying at some point you need to do what's best for team and not what lebron wants. Liggs has more value than Jones


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Wow, came in from working on the car and the game was still on! I couldn't believe it!


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I dont think its the players. I want to like Lue, but I feel this team is badly coached. I think we won last year through sheer willpower and talent. But it wont cover up bad coaching forever.


Yep, our record without lebron tells you a lot about a coach. Even spoelstra had a winning record


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Pathetic officiating once again


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This is the worst crew in all of sports


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Kyrie is so love hate.

Love had a wide open 3 but kyrie just decides sometimes he's not going to pass.


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Originally Posted By: Rishuz
Kyrie is so love hate.

Love had a wide open 3 but kyrie just decides sometimes he's not going to pass.


That's his game, he doesn't elevate those around him


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And Love hasn't touched the ball in OT.

I think that's pathetic.


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Lebron and kyrie at 45 minutes and still blew 30 points against hawks bench


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Originally Posted By: leadtheway
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Kyrie is so love hate.

Love had a wide open 3 but kyrie just decides sometimes he's not going to pass.


That's his game, he doesn't elevate those around him


Its coaching. With a better coach he will share the ball more.


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These Hawks announcers are hilarious.


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What the hell is going on with this officiating crew?


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I freaking think this crew needs to be investigated


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These officials are atrocious.


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So is this like the NFL? Can you send requests to the league?


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The Hawks announcer tries to justify every bad call that goes in the Hawks favor.


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Regardless of the win or loss what the hell is wrong with this team right now.


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Pathetic.. I hope nothing but bad things for these refs


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Horrible call. I think the team may be just about done.


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Well guess we will see how they do next year with mark Jackson. As coach


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How many dumb turnovers and bad ref calls have we had at the end of this game? I think the Vegas Gaming commission should investigate.

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Kyrie is clueless. No situational awareness


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So you get stomped by their bench 2 games in a row. Someone needs to be accountable


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Originally Posted By: leadtheway
Kyrie is clueless. No situational awareness


How about him giving up on the Bazemore layup? Since Bazemore bobbled it kyrie might have been able to block it.


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I guess I don't really understand what the difference is in the defense between last year and right now. I am really confused.....players are the same mostly. It's got to be coaching.


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wth is this? i look and we're up 25 .. now we lost?!


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