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Your score is: 14680 (GRADE: A+)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A)
Round 1 Pick 12: Jamal Adams, SS, LSU (A+)
Round 2 Pick 7 (NYJ): Budda Baker, FS, Washington (B+)
Round 2 Pick 20: Cordrea Tankersley, CB, Clemson (B+)
Round 3 Pick 7 (LAC): Bucky Hodges, TE, Virginia Tech (A)
Round 3 Pick 8 (N.E.): Pat Elflein, C/OG, Ohio State (A-)
Round 4 Pick 1: Brad Kaaya, QB, Miami (Fla.) (A)
Round 4 Pick 6 (LAC): Sidney Jones, CB, Washington (A)
Round 4 Pick 11 (N.E.): Will Holden, OT, Vanderbilt (A)
Round 4 Pick 15 (MINN): Nazair Jones, DT, North Carolina (B+)
Round 4 Pick 34 (LAR): D'Onta Foreman, RB, Texas (B+)
Round 5 Pick 1: Josh Harvey-Clemons, SS/OLB, Louisville (C-)
Round 5 Pick 37 (COMP): Kenny Golladay, WR, Northern Illinois (A+)

Your score is: 14822 (GRADE: A+)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A)
Round 1 Pick 12: Jamal Adams, SS, LSU (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: John Ross, WR, Washington (A)
Round 2 Pick 20: Desmond King, CB/FS, Iowa (A)
Round 3 Pick 1: Fabian Moreau, CB/FS, UCLA (A-)
Round 4 Pick 1: Davis Webb, QB, California (A)
Round 5 Pick 1: D'Onta Foreman, RB, Texas (A-)
Round 5 Pick 31: Sam Rogers, FB, Virginia Tech (A+)
Round 5 Pick 37 (COMP): Travis Rudolph, WR, Florida State (A)
Round 6 Pick 1: Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma (B+)
Round 6 Pick 4: Zane Gonzalez, K, Arizona State (A)

I missed Larry Ogunjobi

Here is one with a trade down from 1 to 6 and taking Trubisky 1st Which I know you will all be happy with

Score: 15486 (A+)

Rd. 1 1 (JETS) Mitch Trubisky QB UNC (A-)
Rd. 1 12 Jamal Adams SS LSU (A+)
Rd. 2 7 (JETS) Tim Williams OLB/DE Alabama (A-)
Rd. 2 20 Raekwon McMillan ILB/OLB Ohio State (A-)
Rd. 2 21 (DET.) Kevin King CB Washington (A-)
Rd. 2 26 (SEA.) Marcus Williams FS Utah (A-)
Rd. 3 1 Chris Godwin WR Penn State (A-)
Rd. 4 1 Vincent Taylor DT Oklahoma State (A+)
Rd. 5 1 Eric Magnuson OT Michigan (A-)
Rd. 5 31 Shaquill Griffen CB UCF (B+)
Rd. 5 37 (COMP.) Jarron Jones DT Notre Dame (A-)
Rd. 6 1 Damontae Kazee CB SDST. (A+)
Rd. 6 4 Xavier Woods SS Louisiana Tech (B)

Future Picks:
2018 1 Pick
2018 1 Pick (JETS)
2019 1 Pick

My dream scenario for the draft and the Browns in general is to go defense heavy in this draft, while not getting caught up in reaching for a QB...

... and somehow getting through next season with enough success that they don't fire everyone again. I think with the possibility of this team moving some of these current picks, that we could possibly find our guy at the right time next year. The last thing anyone wants is for us to reach for a QB that isn't someone who blew the team away, just because we are in desperate need of one.

I think after everything that happened last year, and the amount of youth, and this draft + our free agent period, that Hue can find a way to get enough wins to keep Jimmy and the front office content with him. I do believe he can be the right guy, but I'm terrified the pressure to win and find a QB could lead to another regime change.

And I'm the first guy to point out a regime change when one is needed. When coaches don't have good game plans, and make awful in game mistakes, but in the back of my mind I know we can't be doing this all the time.

I was pretty pleased with this one, Adams rarely falls to 12 and I was comfortable with my choices through 5/1. I could have had Watson at 2/1 and Mahomes at 3/1, but was focused on defense, a WR and a RB. I went with Dobbs after reading about his connection with Hue at the Senior Bowl. FP didn't like that choice much.

Your score is: 14335 (GRADE: A+)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A)
Round 1 Pick 12: Jamal Adams, SS, LSU (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Budda Baker, FS, Washington (B+)
Round 2 Pick 20: Larry Ogunjobi, DT, Charlotte (B+)
Round 3 Pick 1: Zay Jones, WR, East Carolina (A+)
Round 4 Pick 1: Sidney Jones, CB, Washington (A+)
Round 5 Pick 1: D'Onta Foreman, RB, Texas (A-)
Round 5 Pick 31: George Kittle, TE, Iowa (B)
Round 5 Pick 37 (COMP): Conor McDermott, OT, UCLA (A-)
Round 6 Pick 1: Joshua Dobbs, QB, Tennessee (C+)
Round 6 Pick 4: Sam Rogers, FB, Virginia Tech (A+)

A+ for passing on Watson and Mahomes.

San Rogers is pretty fun as a receiver and even a little bit as a runner but he's not a very good run blocker. Not sure what to do with him.

Thanks, good to know.

Your score is: 15026 (GRADE: A+)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A)
Round 1 Pick 23 (NYG): Deshaun Watson, QB, Clemson (A)
Round 2 Pick 1: John Ross, WR, Washington (A)
Round 2 Pick 18 (T.B.): TreDavious White, CB, LSU (A+)
Round 2 Pick 20: Budda Baker, FS, Washington (A)
Round 2 Pick 23 (NYG): Evan Engram, TE/WR, Ole Miss (A)
Round 3 Pick 1: Patrick Mahomes II, QB, Texas Tech (B+)
Round 3 Pick 20 (T.B.): Roderick Johnson, OT, Florida State (A)
Round 4 Pick 5 (LAR): Dalvin Tomlinson, DT, Alabama (A)
Round 5 Pick 1: D'Onta Foreman, RB, Texas (A-)
Round 5 Pick 5 (LAR): Jon Toth, C, Kentucky (B)
Round 5 Pick 31: Ben Gedeon, ILB, Michigan (B-)
Round 6 Pick 1: Delano Hill, FS, Michigan (B+)
Round 6 Pick 4: Xavier Woods, SS, Louisiana Tech (B)
Round 6 Pick 17 (WASH): Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma (B+)
Round 7 Pick 2 (WASH): Jake Elliott, K, Memphis (A)

Your Future Picks:
2018 Round 1 Pick
2019 Round 1 Pick

our score is: 15258 (GRADE: A+)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A)
Round 1 Pick 12: Jamal Adams, SS, LSU (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Mitch Trubisky, QB, North Carolina (A+)
Round 2 Pick 20: Budda Baker, FS, Washington (A)
Round 3 Pick 1: Antonio Garcia, OT, Troy (A-)
Round 4 Pick 14 (IND): Nathan Peterman, QB, Pittsburgh (B-)
Round 4 Pick 30 (IND): Taywan Taylor, WR, Western Kentucky (A+)
Round 5 Pick 1: Corn Elder, CB, Miami (Fla.) (B+)
Round 5 Pick 31: Brian Hill, RB, Wyoming (A-)
Round 5 Pick 37 (COMP): George Kittle, TE, Iowa (B)
Round 6 Pick 1: Ben Gedeon, ILB, Michigan (A-)
Round 6 Pick 3 (JAX): Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma (B+)
Round 6 Pick 4: Travis Rudolph, WR, Florida State (A+)

Your Future Picks:
2018 Round 1 Pick
2019 Round 1 Pick

Garrett
Adams
Trubisky
Baker
Garcia
Peterman
Taylor

Yeah, i'll take it

Your score is: 14495 (GRADE: A+)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A)
Round 1 Pick 14 (PHI): Jamal Adams, SS, LSU (A+)
Round 1 Pick 32 (N.O.): Mitch Trubisky, QB, North Carolina (A+)
Round 2 Pick 11 (PHI): Zach Cunningham, OLB/ILB, Vanderbilt (A)
Round 2 Pick 20: Marcus Williams, FS, Utah (A-)
Round 3 Pick 1: Cooper Kupp, WR, Eastern Washington (A-)
Round 4 Pick 1: Dalvin Tomlinson, DT, Alabama (A)
Round 5 Pick 1: Jeremy McNichols, RB, Boise State (A)
Round 5 Pick 31: Shaquill Griffin, CB, UCF (B+)
Round 5 Pick 37 (COMP): Sam Tevi, OT, Utah (B)
Round 6 Pick 1: Jadar Johnson, SS, Clemson (B)

Given the apparent interest in Mahommes:

Your score is: 15320 (GRADE: A+)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A)
Round 1 Pick 12: Jamal Adams, SS, LSU (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Corey Davis, WR, Western Michigan (A+)
Round 2 Pick 20: Patrick Mahomes II, QB, Texas Tech (A)
Round 3 Pick 1: Marcus Williams, FS, Utah (A)
Round 4 Pick 1: David Sharpe, OT, Florida (A)
Round 5 Pick 1: Chad Hansen, WR, California (A+)
Round 5 Pick 31: Corn Elder, CB, Miami (Fla.) (A)
Round 5 Pick 37 (COMP): Jamaal Williams, RB, Brigham Young (B)
Round 6 Pick 1: Conor McDermott, OT, UCLA (A)
Round 6 Pick 4: Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma (B+)

Of course nobody said it had to be done this way but I made an effort not to make more than 11 selections, which is our total draft allotment:

Your score is: 12913 (GRADE: A-)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A-)
Round 1 Pick 12: O.J. Howard, TE, Alabama (A)
Round 2 Pick 1: Patrick Mahomes II, QB, Texas Tech (B+)
Round 2 Pick 25 (HOU): Josh Jones, SS, NC State (B)
Round 3 Pick 1: Chris Godwin, WR, Penn State (A-)
Round 3 Pick 25 (HOU): Tanoh Kpassagnon, DE, Villanova (B)
Round 4 Pick 1: Dalvin Tomlinson, DT, Alabama (A)
Round 4 Pick 22 (MINN): John Johnson, FS, Boston College (B+)
Round 5 Pick 37 (COMP): Shaquill Griffin, CB, UCF (A-)
Round 6 Pick 1: Jeremy Cutrer, CB, Middle Tennessee (C+)
Round 6 Pick 4: Stevie Tu'ikolovatu, DT, Southern California (B)

I don't think you can "fix" the Brown's defense without an investment in the D-line. Especially since Williams says he will not compromise on effort. We'll need more guys inside.

I may be in the minority, but I'm a straight "no" on Howard at 12 unless he's the only "top 12" left on the board.

This draft doesn't seem very sexy, but I like it a lot:

Your score is: 14468 (GRADE: A+)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A)
Round 1 Pick 14 (PHI): Jamal Adams, SS, LSU (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Patrick Mahomes II, QB, Texas Tech (B+)
Round 2 Pick 11 (PHI): Zach Cunningham, OLB/ILB, Vanderbilt (A)
Round 2 Pick 20: Kevin King, CB, Washington (A-)
Round 3 Pick 1: Marcus Maye, FS, Florida (B+)
Round 4 Pick 1: Noah Brown, WR, Ohio State (B+)
Round 5 Pick 1: Nathan Peterman, QB, Pittsburgh (A-)
Round 5 Pick 31: Conor McDermott, OT, UCLA (B+)
Round 5 Pick 37 (COMP): Corn Elder, CB, Miami (Fla.) (A)
Round 6 Pick 1: Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma (B+)
Round 6 Pick 4: Brian Hill, RB, Wyoming (A+)

All the reports about the FO looking at TEs signals they will draft one.

any combo of garrett/adams is good with me

Not sure where this should go or if its all ready up ...

FYI ..

Sidney Jones - DB - Player

Ravens assistant GM Eric DeCosta said he does not expect Washington CB Sidney Jones (Achilles') to fall "that much" in the draft.

A sure-fire first rounder before suffering a torn Achilles' at his Pro Day, Jones was expected to fall into the second day following the injury, but DeCosta's comments suggest a team at the back end of the first round could take a shot on the talented corner. "There have been players that have gone very high in the first round with injuries like that," DeCosta said. "He is a really good player, and I don't think it is going to affect him that much." Jones is expected to resume running in four months, and there is some hope he will be able to return late in his rookie year.

Related: Ravens
Source: ESPN Apr 8 - 11:16 AM

This is my dream draft;

#1 Garrett
#5 Hooker (trade #12, 2018 2nd round, #177 5/32)
Garoppolo for #33 & another 2018 2nd round
#52 CB (Jones, Wilson, Lewis)
#65 Ogunjobi or Zay Jones

I don't doubt they will, I'm just not in love with Howard at #12. Especially if say Adams, Hooker, Lattimore, Foster, or Reddick are there. I'm not even sure Howard is the best TE in the class. I wouldn't have a problem with Njoku in the second if he's there. Or Butt or maybe Leggett later. Fairly deep class, don't need a TE in the first round, IMHO.

No trades. BPA. Only regret, didn't get a value RB. (Funny how MG doesn't rate an A+ any more )

Your score is: 15737 (GRADE: A+)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A)
Round 1 Pick 12: Jamal Adams, SS, LSU (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Mitch Trubisky, QB, North Carolina (A+)
Round 2 Pick 20: Quincy Wilson, CB, Florida (A+)
Round 3 Pick 1: Marcus Williams, FS, Utah (A)
Round 4 Pick 1: Chris Godwin, WR, Penn State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 1: Chad Hansen, WR, California (A+)
Round 5 Pick 31: Eddie Vanderdoes, DT, UCLA (A-)
Round 5 Pick 37 (COMP): Sam Tevi, OT, Utah (B)
Round 6 Pick 1: Shaquill Griffin, CB, UCF (A)
Round 6 Pick 4: Jadar Johnson, SS, Clemson (B)

so wait, myles garrett refused to call into Mike and Mike after he promised he would? ODD

"Get out of Cleveland Free" strategy. He wants to fall to somewhere Dallas can take him.

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could be

He said he didn't want to talk to Booger McFarlain. IMHO, WGARA. I don't blame him. Why mix it up with a guy that clearly doesn't like him? No point in jeopardizing his draft stock by risking saying something he'd regret later.

Greeny: “I’m told there is some sort of issue that he has with something you have said. That just is what it is — that would be neither the first nor last time that has happened.”

Link

If Gollic had been there, it's a non-story. Still is. Nothing to see here, IMO.

Your score is: 15233 (GRADE: A+)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A)
Round 1 Pick 12: Malik Hooker, FS/SS, Ohio State (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Gareon Conley, CB, Ohio State (A-)
Round 2 Pick 20: Ethan Pocic, C/OG, LSU (B+)
Round 3 Pick 1: Kevin King, CB, Washington (A-)
Round 4 Pick 1: Eddie Jackson, SS, Alabama (A)
Round 5 Pick 1: Chad Hansen, WR, California (A+)
Round 5 Pick 31: Sam Rogers, FB, Virginia Tech (A+)
Round 5 Pick 37 (COMP): Eddie Vanderdoes, DT, UCLA (A-)
Round 6 Pick 1: Bryan Cox, DE, Florida (B+)
Round 6 Pick 4: Jamaal Williams, RB, Brigham Young (A)

Your Future Picks:
2018 Round 1 Pick
2019 Round 1 Pick

All I have to say is that the mock generator is totally wacked and unrealistic. Many of the players that miraculously fall have 0 chance of being there. I can't find one mock that hooker or Adams falls to 12 and I have to question the value of players selected in between.

With a little over two weeks until the draft, would you give up Garrett for a 2018 1st round pick?

Your score is: 15468 (GRADE: A+)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 8 (CAR): Jamal Adams, SS, LSU (A)
Round 1 Pick 12: Mitch Trubisky, QB, North Carolina (A)
Round 2 Pick 1: Malik McDowell, DT/DE, Michigan State (A)
Round 2 Pick 8 (CAR): John Ross, WR, Washington (A+)
Round 2 Pick 20: Marcus Williams, FS, Utah (A-)
Round 3 Pick 1: Pat Elflein, C/OG, Ohio State (B+)
Round 4 Pick 1: Sidney Jones, CB, Washington (A+)
Round 5 Pick 1: D'Onta Foreman, RB, Texas (A-)
Round 5 Pick 31: Conor McDermott, OT, UCLA (B+)
Round 5 Pick 37 (COMP): Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma (C+)
Round 6 Pick 1: Sam Tevi, OT, Utah (B+)
Round 6 Pick 4: Sam Rogers, FB, Virginia Tech (A+)

Your Future Picks:
2018 Round 1 Pick (CAR)
2018 Round 1 Pick
2019 Round 1 Pick

Your score is: 14767 (GRADE: A+)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A)
Round 1 Pick 12: Jamal Adams, SS, LSU (A+)
Round 2 Pick 6 (LAC): Budda Baker, FS, Washington (B+)
Round 2 Pick 25 (HOU): Cordrea Tankersley, CB, Clemson (A-)
Round 3 Pick 1: Bucky Hodges, TE, Virginia Tech (A-)
Round 3 Pick 4 (JAX): Kevin King, CB, Washington (A)
Round 3 Pick 25 (HOU): Chris Godwin, WR, Penn State (A+)
Round 3 Pick 34 (CAR): Brad Kaaya, QB, Miami (Fla.) (B+)
Round 4 Pick 1: Kyle Fuller, C, Baylor (B)
Round 4 Pick 6 (LAC): Will Holden, OT, Vanderbilt (A-)
Round 4 Pick 22 (MINN): Nazair Jones, DT, North Carolina (A-)
Round 5 Pick 1: D'Onta Foreman, RB, Texas (A-)
Round 5 Pick 37 (COMP): Blair Brown, ILB, Ohio (C-)

It looks like you traded down from #1 with Tenn for #5, #18 and their 1st next year. Is that right?

Also, you traded down from #12 with Washington for #18 in the 1st and #17 in the 2nd. Is that accurate?

If so, I would definitely do the Tenn trade. I doubt that they would give up that much but I would do that trade. I wouldn't do it for just #5 and #17.

Interesting trade with Washington. I don't have an opinion about that at this time. I haven't looked past my top 12 players to have an idea who would be available at #18.

Hooker never falls to me, but Adams does occasionally. I like this one, wouldn't be sad if the Browns could match it.

Your score is: 14856 (GRADE: A+)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A)
Round 1 Pick 12: Jamal Adams, SS, LSU (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Patrick Mahomes II, QB, Texas Tech (B+)
Round 2 Pick 20: Budda Baker, FS, Washington (A)
Round 3 Pick 1: Fabian Moreau, CB/FS, UCLA (A-)
Round 4 Pick 1: Dede Westbrook, WR, Oklahoma (A+)
Round 5 Pick 1: Eddie Vanderdoes, DT, UCLA (B-)
Round 5 Pick 31: Donnel Pumphrey, RB, San Diego State (B+)
Round 5 Pick 37 (COMP): Sam Rogers, FB, Virginia Tech (A+)
Round 6 Pick 1: Zane Gonzalez, K, Arizona State (A)
Round 6 Pick 4: Josh Reynolds, WR, Texas A&M (A)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A)
Round 1 Pick 14 (PHI): O.J. Howard, TE, Alabama (A)
Round 2 Pick 1: Ryan Ramczyk, OT, Wisconsin (A+)
Round 2 Pick 11 (PHI): Takkarist McKinley, OLB/DE, UCLA (A-)
Round 2 Pick 20: Budda Baker, FS, Washington (A)
Round 3 Pick 1: Kevin King, CB, Washington (A)
Round 4 Pick 1: Sidney Jones, CB, Washington (A)
Round 5 Pick 1: Davon Godchaux, DT, LSU (A)
Round 5 Pick 31: Sam Rogers, FB, Virginia Tech (A+)
Round 5 Pick 37 (COMP): Travis Rudolph, WR, Florida State (A)
Round 6 Pick 1: Jerod Evans, QB, Virginia Tech (A-)
Round 6 Pick 4: Matthew Dayes, RB, NC State (A)

Your score is: 15018 (GRADE: A+)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A)
Round 1 Pick 12: Mitch Trubisky, QB, North Carolina (A+)
Round 2 Pick 8 (CAR): Budda Baker, FS, Washington (A)
Round 2 Pick 20: Cordrea Tankersley, CB, Clemson (A)
Round 3 Pick 1: Quincy Wilson, CB, Florida (B+)
Round 3 Pick 15 (MINN): Eddie Jackson, SS, Alabama (A-)
Round 3 Pick 22 (MINN): JuJu Smith-Schuster, WR, Southern California (A)
Round 4 Pick 1: Will Holden, OT, Vanderbilt (A)
Round 4 Pick 4 (CHI): Kyle Fuller, C, Baylor (A)
Round 4 Pick 15 (MINN): Nazair Jones, DT, North Carolina (A-)
Round 5 Pick 1: James Conner, RB, Pittsburgh (B+)
Round 5 Pick 3 (CHI): Marquel Lee, OLB, Wake Forest (B)
Round 5 Pick 14 (IND): Bucky Hodges, TE, Virginia Tech (B)
Round 6 Pick 1: Josh Malone, WR, Tennessee (B+)
Round 6 Pick 14 (S.F.): Joshua Dobbs, QB, Tennessee (B-)
Round 6 Pick 16 (N.E.): DeAngelo Brown, DT, Louisville (A+)

I traded #1 to NYJ for #1, #2 and net year's #1. Traded back in to get Garrett. Wouldn't be too upset if this pans out - Mahomes is a project but lots of raw material. The 2 CBs are good players, Kazee is underrated and a ball hawk. Garret and Adams immediately upgrade our defense, Williams gives Kessler / Brock and eventually Mahomes as big body. Davenport to develop behind Joe.

Your score is: 15145 (GRADE: A+)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 3 (CHI): Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A+)
Round 1 Pick 12: Jamal Adams, SS, LSU (A+)
Round 1 Pick 31 (ATL): Mike Williams, WR, Clemson (A)
Round 2 Pick 11 (PHI): Patrick Mahomes II, QB, Texas Tech (A+)
Round 3 Pick 35 (PHI): Cameron Sutton, CB, Tennessee (A)
Round 5 Pick 1: Julie'n Davenport, OT, Bucknell (B+)
Round 6 Pick 1: Damontae Kazee, CB, San Diego State (A)