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(I know these things are meaningless, but) Charley Casserly's mock on NFL . com is my favorite so far. He has us taking Garrett at #1, Howard at #12, and trading with NO to take Trubisky at #32 on a 1st round contract.



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I guess I would be OK with him or Kizer at 32/33. My fear is that we do something truly idiotic and take a QB with #1 ... or even #12. Either of these guys will need time to develop. Neither is, IMHO, a day 1 starter ..... or maybe even a year 1 starter.


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my ideal situation is Garrett at #1, Howard/Hooker/Allen/Adams at #12, Baker at #33.

If Trubisky falls to 32, I'm good with that too!


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I could live with that.. but I would rather have Conley than Howard. would rather have defense on our first 2 picks.

Otherwise.. I have no problems moving up to get Trubisky on a 5 yr contract.

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Here's the Browns' picks from Chad Reuter's 7 round mock for NFL.com:

1. Myles Garrett DE
12. OJ Howard TE
33. Jabril Peppers S
52. Josh Dobbs QB
65. Fabian Moreau CB
108. Corn Elder CB
145. Carlos Henderson WR
175. Jamaal Williams RB
181. Adam Bisnowaty OT
185. Rayshawn Jenkins S

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...k-draft-round-6

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I'll take Garrett, Howard, Peppers, and Dobbs


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I thought Dobbs was a head-scratcher at 52. More like 152, from what I've read.

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I Peppers really a fit for us ??

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I guess he's kind of a hybrid inside-the-box Safety / Linebacker, so I don't know if he's a fit here. He is a good return guy, and we need someone to return punts and the occasional returnable kickoff.

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I Peppers really a fit for us ??
Williams does love that thumper type safety IIRC. Maybe he is?

I actually see him going before round 2 though. I don't know why, but I see Pitt liking him


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I could live with that draft. Love Elder, Henderson, and Jenkins. Those would be huge steals at that point. Howard at 12 a coup.

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Here’s a 7 round mock by Brent Sobleski for Bleacher Report …

1. Myles Garrett, DE, Tex AM
12. Pat Mahomes, QB, Texas Tech
33. Obi Melifonwu, S, UConn
52. Montravious Adams, DT, Auburn
65. Bucky Hodges, TE, Va Tech
108. Howard Wilson, CB, Houston
145. Rudy Ford, S, Auburn
175. Tanzel Smart, DT, Tulane
181. Trent Taylor, WR, La Tech
185. Calvin Munson, LB, SDSU


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/26981...pensatory-picks

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really hoping that Hooker or Adams fall to 12.. probably won't happen, but man if it does.


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I'm really starting to think the #12 is go in some form to bring in Trubisky. Either as part of a trade up or at the pick itself. I definitely don't see them jumping on Howard if there's a way to get the QB.


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Here’s one from Fox Sports by a guy named Dieter Kurtenbach …

1. Myle Garrett
12. Mitch Trubisky
33. Obi Melifonwu
52. Sidney Jones, CB, Wash
65. Raekwon McMillian, LB, OSU
108. Carroll Phillips, DE, Illinois
145. Nate Hairston, CB, Temple
175. James Conner, RB, Pitt
181. Malachi Dupre, WR, LSU
185. Ben Gedeon, LB, UM


http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/gallery/nfl...full-kurtenbach

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Originally Posted By: Dave
Here’s a 7 round mock by Brent Sobleski for Bleacher Report …

1. Myles Garrett, DE, Tex AM
12. Pat Mahomes, QB, Texas Tech
33. Obi Melifonwu, S, UConn
52. Montravious Adams, DT, Auburn
65. Bucky Hodges, TE, Va Tech
108. Howard Wilson, CB, Houston
145. Rudy Ford, S, Auburn
175. Tanzel Smart, DT, Tulane
181. Trent Taylor, WR, La Tech
185. Calvin Munson, LB, SDSU


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/26981...pensatory-picks


I don't think Mahomes gets past 12 if Trubisky is gone and we stand pat.


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Drafttek

1 - Garrett
12 - O.J.Howard
33 - Kizer
52 - Sidney Jones - CB, Washington
65 - Taylor Moton - OT, W.Michigan
108 - Marcus Maye - S, Florida
145 - Isaiah Ford - WR, Virginia Tech
175 - Corey Clement - RB, Wisconsin
181 - Tanzel Smart - DL, Tulane
185 - Jordan Morgan - OG, Kutztown cool
188 - Artavis Scott - WR, Clemson

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Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
Originally Posted By: Dave
Here’s a 7 round mock by Brent Sobleski for Bleacher Report …

1. Myles Garrett, DE, Tex AM
12. Pat Mahomes, QB, Texas Tech
33. Obi Melifonwu, S, UConn
52. Montravious Adams, DT, Auburn
65. Bucky Hodges, TE, Va Tech
108. Howard Wilson, CB, Houston
145. Rudy Ford, S, Auburn
175. Tanzel Smart, DT, Tulane
181. Trent Taylor, WR, La Tech
185. Calvin Munson, LB, SDSU


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/26981...pensatory-picks


I don't think Mahomes gets past 12 if Trubisky is gone and we stand pat.


I'm intrigued by Mahomes but, taking him that high is absurd. Hell, I'm wary about Trubisky at 12!

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Drafttek

1 - Garrett
12 - O.J.Howard
33 - Kizer
52 - Sidney Jones - CB, Washington
65 - Taylor Moton - OT, W.Michigan
108 - Marcus Maye - S, Florida
145 - Isaiah Ford - WR, Virginia Tech
175 - Corey Clement - RB, Wisconsin
181 - Tanzel Smart - DL, Tulane
185 - Jordan Morgan - OG, Kutztown cool
188 - Artavis Scott - WR, Clemson

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Originally Posted By: W84NxtYrAgain
(I know these things are meaningless, but) Charley Casserly's mock on NFL . com is my favorite so far. He has us taking Garrett at #1, Howard at #12, and trading with NO to take Trubisky at #32 on a 1st round contract.



That would be quite the day one splash say-to-say.

Given the class of QBs, the teams that need them - I doubt Trubisky lingers out of the first 15 spots. Even though they (this years QB class), IMO and many others anyway, may not truly be deserving of first round selections - teams need them and for that reason alone will cause them to get selected.

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Grossi has the Browns taking Watson at 12 in his latest mock.

http://www.espn.com/blog/cleveland//post...her-quarterback

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Originally Posted By: Dave
Grossi has the Browns taking Watson at 12 in his latest mock.

http://www.espn.com/blog/cleveland//post...her-quarterback


I think this is the first week Grossi had a mock that didn't have Forrest Lamp being drafted twice. Well done, Grossi! I see progress.


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I think he gets drafted higher than what the media would have you believe. Arizona is an option too, IMO.


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Originally Posted By: Dave
I guess he's kind of a hybrid inside-the-box Safety / Linebacker, so I don't know if he's a fit here. He is a good return guy, and we need someone to return punts and the occasional returnable kickoff.


Actually I've read Williams love those kind of players and would use him as a Monster...
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Hey I hope Watson and Trub. both go before 12 , More for us !

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Originally Posted By: W84NxtYrAgain
(I know these things are meaningless, but) Charley Casserly's mock on NFL . com is my favorite so far. He has us taking Garrett at #1, Howard at #12, and trading with NO to take Trubisky at #32 on a 1st round contract.



Cool mock draft, but no QB taken until the 27th pick? Sounds a bit unrealistic. Has there ever been a draft where the first QB that was picked was taken that late (or thereabouts)?

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Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
Originally Posted By: Dave
Grossi has the Browns taking Watson at 12 in his latest mock.

http://www.espn.com/blog/cleveland//post...her-quarterback


I think this is the first week Grossi had a mock that didn't have Forrest Lamp being drafted twice. Well done, Grossi! I see progress.


Egad! Grossi has Tampa taking Dalvin Cook at #19...as did I in our mock. I am so screwed now...


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Casserly has the QB's evaluated exactly the way I do. I have said before that the only way I see any value at all is moving up from #33 to #32 to insure a five year deal on a QB.

There will probably be someone who reaches earlier, but you don't draft a QB who won't be able to start for a year or two early.


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Yup.

I get that you can't fix a QB problem without getting a new QB, but has anyone ever solved a QB problem by reaching for a QB in the draft?

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When Geno Smith came out, wasn't he first QB off the board with first pick of second round?

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Originally Posted By: CanadaDawg
When Geno Smith came out, wasn't he first QB off the board with first pick of second round?


EJ Manuel? Or is that a different draft?


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Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
Originally Posted By: Dave
Grossi has the Browns taking Watson at 12 in his latest mock.

http://www.espn.com/blog/cleveland//post...her-quarterback


I think this is the first week Grossi had a mock that didn't have Forrest Lamp being drafted twice. Well done, Grossi! I see progress.


So far, in Grossi's various mock drafts, he's had Lamp drafted twice in the 1st round, Fournette drafted twice in the 1st round, Ramczyk drafted twice in the first round, Humphrey's drafted twice in the first and Mike Williams not even being drafted in the first round.

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It's because no one in here was doing g mocks he could steal from this year lol

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Would love to see a MKC draft. I suspect it would look something like:

1) Mitchell Trubisky, QB
12) Traded to New England for Jimmy Garoppolo
33) Traded to New England for Jimmy Garoppolo
52) Davis Webb, QB
65) Josh Dobbs, QB
108) Brad Kaaya, QB
145) Chad Kelly, QB
175) Alek Torgersen, QB
181) Sefo Liufau, QB
185) C.J. Beathard, QB
188) Jerod Evans, QB

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Originally Posted By: clwb419
Would love to see a MKC draft. I suspect it would look something like:

1) Mitchell Trubisky, QB
12) Traded to New England for Jimmy Garoppolo
33) Traded to New England for Jimmy Garoppolo
52) Davis Webb, QB
65) Josh Dobbs, QB
108) Brad Kaaya, QB
145) Chad Kelly, QB
175) Alek Torgersen, QB
181) Sefo Liufau, QB
185) C.J. Beathard, QB
188) Jerod Evans, QB


LMFAO

Isn't it the truth though? It's like the whole 53 man roster should all just be QBs haha... let's run Hogan at fullback!!!!

It's all she pretty much talks about when she asks her ridiculous questions at the pressers, too.

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Originally Posted By: clwb419
Would love to see a MKC draft. I suspect it would look something like:

1) Mitchell Trubisky, QB
12) Traded to New England for Jimmy Garoppolo
33) Traded to New England for Jimmy Garoppolo
52) Davis Webb, QB
65) Josh Dobbs, QB
108) Brad Kaaya, QB
145) Chad Kelly, QB
175) Alek Torgersen, QB
181) Sefo Liufau, QB
185) C.J. Beathard, QB
188) Jerod Evans, QB


John Gruden just got a chubby.


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1996...first QB taken was Tony Banks in the 2nd round.


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Well that would take care of Franchise QB Once and For ALL...lol laugh


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