DawgTalkers.net Forums The Archives 2017 NFL Season 2017 NFL Draft Browns pick Jabrill Peppers with the 25th pick

Did you watch that breakdown video that somebody linked that talked about his assignments? It kind of makes sense. I definitely shared not really wanting Peppers leading up to the draft, but I could have been wrong. The sacrificing for the team aspect I hadn't really considered. Maybe Williams can put him in the best position to maximize what he is good at. The "commentator" talked about teams possibly being able to stay in base with Peppers when teams go 11 personnel, and with Collins to cover TEs I can see us possibly giving it a try.

Still not crazy about him, but I have a little more hope for him working out. Plus, we apparently share a birthday, so I might try to cut him some slack.

We'll have to disagree then. I've watched every collegiate game he played in and sure, he made mistakes like every player. He also routinely was in the backfield on runs, bubble screens, blitzes , and also made some very good coverage plays as a LB.

I am not going to dis this pick. I saw a difference maker on the field.

Polarizing figure, no doubt. Hopefully he becomes another Honey Badger and proves folks wrong.

I hope so too.

I am not sold on him, but we'll see.

He's a Brown. Welcome aboard, Mr. Peppers.

That helped a lot, thanks for the linkage.

Welcome to Cleveland! Love this pick!

Okay, how does his 40 time compare to other defensive backs?

Also, how many picks did he get last year?

I read this about Gregg Williams defense earlier in the off-season and I think it applies to Jabrill Peppers and his role on our team:

http://www.scout.com/nfl/browns/story/1749375-x-s-o-s-the-hybrid-defender

4.46 in the 40. One of the fastest safeties. To compare, Jamal Adams ran a 4.56.

Peppers had 1 INT last year. As a LB. Who wasn't asked to sit back in coverage all that often.

I hope this helps. I found it on another sight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW4HK4HXEi0

According to a simulcast they showed, faster than Earl Thomas. 4.46 is solid.

Not many picks, but it sounds like he was asked to focus elsewhere for the good of the team.

I get where you are coming from b/c I was there, too, but after digging deeper it might be better than I had thought. Please take a fresh look and do look at his "job" w/in the D to see if it might make sense what the guy in the film room video is selling.

He played linebacker last year. The team asked him to play out of position and he did so for the good of the team. Had he played at SS the entire season his stats would be different....

http://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2017-s...ts-and-40-times

Ran a 4.46 but not listed with safeties because he ran with Lbs. Fastest was a 4.46 that I can tell.

1 career pick.

I like the pick. I stop caring about where people played in college once they get to the Pros.

Guy is a Cleveland Brown now. I'm excited.

Dude has speed and is all over the field in the highlights I'm looking at. He looks like he's got a couple steps on most of the people on the field. In essence he looks like a Pro amongst more Amateurs. You want that out of 1st round picks. If they can dominate the field most of the time in high quality conferences that will translate to the next level.

I don't care where they play him, he will make an impact.

well he was flagged for watered down urine for a drug screen so I guess he makes sense as a Brown. God what a horrible trade ..

For as much as Ds are in the nickel package now days I think this pick makes plenty of sense. Our new D coordinator definitely drove this pick.

Yeah, IMO Peppers' best shot at transitioning to the NFL was with Williams

Peppers plus a first rounder? As good as it gets IMO.

Awesome ... nothing hypocritical or two faced here ....

Wind the clock back a year ...

- FO was given a pass for missing on Dak cause of his dui ... EVERYONE on here except for maybe one or two of u BLASTED ME when i suggested we were MORONS if thats why we didn't take him ...

But that is what everyone of u said ...

- Today ... we just took a guy that basically failed his drug test at the combine .... and the pick is being APPLAUDED ... given a STANDING O ...

Can't wait to see the BS that rolls in now to justify it ... thats always worth a good laugh ...

VERS - roll with it .. *L* at it .. no sense letting other folks inability to have any sort of consistency when accessing anything brown ruin your reasons for coming here ... I know i won't ...

I wanted Hooker going in. Thought this guy would go in 2nd round actually. Hope he pans some gold for us.

I also wanted Hooker, and I was utterly dumbfounded when we traded back with him on the board waiting for us!

However, getting another 1st next year and still getting Peppers has me feeling a whole lot better this morning. I think this kid is gonna be a freak for us.

I'm kinda on board with this now ( wanted Howard at #12 )

I agree. I think most people would agree that Hooker would be a better selection than Peppers in a vacuum but I understand why the Browns couldn't pass up a first rounder next year.

I will say that I was frustrated the we traded out of the 12 spot.
Too many studs on the board. but..
when Foster, Peppers, Cook, Awuzie as well as a couple others were still on the board when we picked, I feel the trade was solid.

I like Peppers.

The dude is a football player. He will be good and I am more sure of his success in the NFL than Garrett's. I know we won't know anything for sure for a while but I am thrilled with last nights picks.

Go Browns!

I've said other places that Peppers' best shot to make the transition to the NFL is with Williams IMO. He loves that hybrid type player. It is important we draft a FS with range ASAP though

J/C. Great pick, I realize there are a lot of Malik Hooker fans on board, But, this guy was clearly the MVP for the Wolverine D. I am not a Michigan fan or a Buckeye fan, both were amazing defenses. Considering what we got and still landed a stud in a Need position, awesome job by Sashi and company. Greg Williams is gonna really have fun with this new toy. When former and current coachs love this kid, I trust their judgement. Great Day 1.

I don't like this pick. I only see him playing strong safety and I didn't think Ibraheim Campbell was doing THAT poor of a job. Maybe he'll make a little splash in the return game.

We could've very well selected a position of more need IMO. Just not feeling it. I mean... Hooker fell right into our bread baskets.

A so-called "dilute sample" can be lots of things. His agent said it was the direct result of them over hydrating the guy out of fears of cramping. That's plausible I guess. Those guys are all pushing their limits at the combines because draft spots are big bucks. The whole drug testing policy in the NFL is a circus.

I don't know of any real history while he was with That Team Up North that leads me to believe he's another Josh Gordon.

It's not a terrible pick and he was taken at about where many said he'd go. Seeing as how we picked up two solid defensive players in the first round I'm happy enough.

Joe Thomas has actually had some very interesting takes on dilute samples on Twitter lately. Apparently he's had some that have tested as dilute due to drinking too much water. They make him wait around and try again. I guess the kids at the combine only get one shot, though.

I had dilute samples in the military -- if you're actually properly hydrated (urine running clear & plenty), it's easy for it to happen.

Funny how people view the same thing. I LOVED the Peppers pick. He can play with a lber mentality. He returns punts, kicks and quite possibly is the best athlete in the draft. A Troy Palumalu type but a better athlete. Wow is all I can say.

If Williams utilizes Peppers to stop half the RBs who got outside on us last year he'll be worth the pick.

I am not a Peppers fan after he sat out of the 2016 Orange Bowl game. What would have been the biggest game of his career.

That move screamed "personality problem" to me.

Someone who loves football and is totally committed to football would have played that game no matter what.

And they would have played to win.

Michigan lost to Florida State 33-32.

The NFL Draft Geniuses had Peppers predicted to be drafted in the first round. I have to assume, I'm not the only one who questions Peppers' attitude.

But there he was, predicted to go in the first round by the geniuses. So that in and off itself, made him a good pick.

The Browns had an absolutely awesome first round yesterday.

Three first round picks this year and an extra First Rounder next year?

Unbelievably awesome draft. Right out of the movie Draft Day.

PS. Personally, I put the odds of Peppers ever becoming a Pro-Bowler at less than 10%.

Because he's a Brownie now, I hope I'm wrong.

I think Peppers is vastly overrated and I had a 3rd round grade on him, but I don't think he wanted to sit out that bowl game. I think they made him sit out. I saw camera shots of him before the game and he looked angry as all get out about not being able to play.

If he can help cover the WIDE OPEN tight ends that killed us last year, this is an instant upgrade.

the only reason, I don't like the pick is because I am weary of players with jack of all trades master of none qualities. coaches try them everywhere and it stunts their growth everywhere. They never really establish themselves at the one position to make them great.

Punt returner he is awesome. I would keep him doing that but on defense I don't know where he really fits. we will see what they do with him, they obviously have a plan, just don't know whether its a good plan or not.

At least with Williams we can point to a guy he had in the past and think about how Peppers will be used. Whether or not he can succeed in that role is a different question entirely.