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You know how many people threaten the US? You wanna fight everybody that runs their mouth?

Yo what happened to you conservatives and wanting to be America first? And now trump is president and y'all wanna be in every freaking fight across the globe.

Bunch of flip floppers. No wonder trump became president.

I happens that many of us are old enough to remember the effects of Pearl Harbor and what happens to those who ignore the threats of Mad Men. Suddenly and without warning your Navy is at the bottom of the sea and thousands of you are dead.

Are you saying we should wait until Hawaii or Anchorage or Seattle go up in flames?

So North Korea is sending jets to Hawaii?

Since when?

That's the second time you said that.

What part of Missiles don't you understand?

1. You do realize that the whole "we're the only country to use them" thing is a ridiculous & empty argument, right? It has no bearing and no value, whatsoever.

2. He has continued to develop his nuclear program despite UN resolutions telling him not to

3. He is clearly unstable and has openly stated multiple times that he INTENDS to use them.

4. They are continuously, actively developing the means to use them

5. You don't wait for him to actually use them before you decide it is time to do something about it.

are you being deliberately obtuse? You have to be, because you're bright and there is no way you're not getting the point - you're just arguing for the sake of arguing.

How is it a ridiculous and empty argument? Look dude, just cause you and a few others thinks so doesn't mean it is.

We're the only country who felt the need to actually use nukes. Yet somehow we should be able to dictate who is and isn't allowed to have them?

Have we ever done something other countries didn't want us to do? Are you saying that means they have the moral and ethical reason to then invade America?

North Korea has been running their mouths how long now? But ALL OF A SUDDEN, we need to put an end to it?

Sorry but you're the one with a ridiculous argument.

And you have no standard. Don't want to go into Syria, a guy who's committing genocide and gassing his own people, but want to invade North Korea cause they're saying really mean things to America!!!

And I'm the one with a ridiculous argument. Please. Y'all and these fragile ass ego. You said you didn't vote for trump, but I can't tell, cause you act just like him.

So, because we used nukes to end WW2 rather than risk a million-plus casualties invading the main island of Japan 72 years ago, we are the most likely threat to use them today in a limited conflict? PLEASE.




Answer me about this: How and when DO you stop him and his nukes program?
How and why do you NOT address him when he has openly stated his deliberate intention to use them against the U.S. in a First-Strike capacity?




Didn't want to go in and opposed it because of Obama's outward stances of "we shouldn't be starting wars or sending our kids to foreign lands to die" -- ya know, right before putting our kids into wars in Syria and other hotspots in Africa and the like --- but once there, I'm all about seeing it through. I'm even on record as saying right after the election that Trump needed to see it through.

And, I do NOT want to go into North Korea, but I also don't feel that we can just do absolutely nothing, either.

Again - I refer you to Prime Minister Chamberlain for any reasons you may desire for clarification.

Your neighbor hates you and has said he wants to destroy you.
He says he wants to blow up your house.
He begins construction of a cannon he says will be used to blow up your house.
You call the cops but they can do nothing because without a barrel, it is not a weapon that can carry out his threat.
He continues to build it from the ground up, each week adding another component. It now has everything but the barrel.

One day he adds the barrel and test fires his cannon, blowing up the large oak tree in the field behind his house.

Now he turns the cannon towards your house.

Exactly when are you gonna take the necessary action to save your life and your property? Or won't you?

don't forget the part of the analogy where he has been testing explosive cannon balls in his back yard for years

yes, we are the biggest threat, arguably between us and Russia, seeing as we have how many nukes, again?

how many, bro?

yea.

and yet somehow, you think the guy who can't even get off successful testing of empty missiles, the guy who's family has been talking trash and done nothing for how many years? is somehow an actual threat?

funny how North korea and an actual "threat" wasn't being talked about so much until Trump decided to open his mouth. and you're going right along with it.

how many countries have threaten to strike us? whether in the continental US, or US bases abroad?

by your OWN logic, that means you would've started a war with Iran, because they threatened us. because they were saying really really mean ole things about America and Israel!!!

but instead, we did what countries are suppose to do: we negotiated like hell to come up with a peaceful solution, something where everybody wins.

and that's the ONE thing i havent see you or the rest of your war mongering counterparts discuss: EXHAUSTING diplomatic solutions with NK.

yall just wanna bang on your chest like a bunch of damn gorillas battling over territory in the jungle.

and "seeing it through". see WHAT through with North korea? we didn't invade them, we haven't done anything because there's no NEED to!!! so see what through? the hell are you even talking about?

and for the record, there's been an AFRICOM for a while in africa, before Obama. i know because i went to Djibouti for a 3 month detail there. we've already had operations in Africa going on.

you can't justify doing nothing? we already HAVE been doing nothing.

and guess what? nobody got nuked.

unless fat boy nuked somebody i wasn't aware of. unless fat boy killed a thousands of South koreans with a missile launch. you got a link for that? cause i must have been sleeping when that happened.

oh, one more thing.

you just tried to blast for me using an example of nukes 72 years ago. so i could care less about some prime minister's words when? 70 something years ago.

you gonna try and blast me for using history and then turn around and use history. talk about a flip flop empty argument.

NK isn't a neighbor.

nevermind, i'm arguing with a bunch of people who thought the iraq war and wanting to bomb iran was a good idea. i should've known this discussion was gonna be pointless.

keep trying to scare everyone, guys. that's what you conservatives are good at.

With Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles they most certainly are neighbors who can reach out and touch us.

We have ICBM's.

Guess that gives a country like Russia the moral authority to invade us, right?

It really comes down to who's side you are on and what Nation you care most about. For me it is America. For you it depends.

I think we have a better chance at seeing Wilson's chin.

Except no. It comes down to not trying to get involved with wars just because people like talking trash.

Just because I'm American doesn't mean I have to agree with the way our leader handles things.

That's a sheep mentality.

Lt. Gen. David L. Mann, former U.S. Army Space and Missile Defense Command told reporters last year that he did not know if North Korea’s claim about having successfully miniaturized a nuclear weapon is accurate, but did say their nuclear ambitions need to be taken seriously.
“They have a capability for long-range flight. I take their capability seriously. I think we need to take their development very seriously,” Mann said.
While many details about North Korea’s nuclear missile technology are likely not publically available, Mann may have likely been referring to the often-cited North Korea’s Taepodong 2 long-range missile. Various reports, such as one from the BBC, say this long-range weapon can hit ranges greater than 8,000 km – a distance which could put parts of the U.S. at risk from a North Korean attack.
Also, Mann may have been referring to another North Korean missile which has also been in the public eye. The North Korean KN-08 missile, mentioned last year by Commander of U.S. Northern Command Adm. William Gortney, can reach ranges greater than 3,400 miles, according to a recent report from the Associated Press.
Gortney said the KN-08 has "profound implications," especially if it is deployed as a road-mobile weapon, meaning it could be moved and launched from vehicles that make it less vulnerable to detection, the Associated Press report explained.
At the same time, many analysts have said that it is not clear whether North Korea has the technology to accurately launch a nuclear-armed intercontinental ballistic missile able to successfully travel throughout all three phases of flight toward a target. An ICBM needs to travel through space carrying a warhead and then successfully re-enter the earth’s atmosphere before hitting its target.
Most of all, the unpredictability of North Korea’s leader Kim Jong Un, coupled with the country’s unambiguous nuclear ambitions, have many Pentagon officials concerned about the technological pace of their progress.

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/could-north-korea-hit-the-us-nuclear-missile-20259

Breaking News...

North Korea just launched a Ballistic Missile.

No details yet. Just developing.

Saw that. I think this guy is gonna keep pushing Trump's buttons until we hit them. I feel better that China is trying to help, at least we won't be fighting them too. South Korea will feel the brunt of his attacks though.

How did it go? Very curious to see if we got nuked today.

Nah, we got the Nork equivalent of a Facebook poke. But little Kim has changed the national security level from pale orange to reddish orange, however that's an upgrade over and not to be confused with the green gilled reddish orange caused by not knowing how hard Presidenting is...

It blew up on its way to the sea of Japan.

Japan's Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga, speaking after a meeting of Japan's National Security Council, said the missile is believed to have traveled about 50 kilometers (30 miles) and fallen on an inland part of North Korea.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/n-korean-missile-test-fails-hours-un-meeting-051312393.html

Trump repeats that he's open to meeting Kim Jong Un, says he 'would be honored to do it'

"Under the right circumstances," President Donald Trump said he would be open to meeting North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.

"If it would be appropriate for me to meet with him, I would absolutely, I would be honored to do it," Trump told Bloomberg in an interview published Monday. "If it's under the, again, under the right circumstances. But I would do that."

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/01/trump-rep...d-to-do-it.html

You would have toasted Obama for saying that.

Obama would never have said that as he would have looked the other way on North Korea or we would have surrendered by now.

Trump will always negotiate, from a position of strength I might add.

You're such a sad little fellow.

Trump has looked into changing the first amendment. Said the constitution was archaic. Yet you still uphold him.

Sad 40 indeed, sad 40.

Always gets personal with you when you get slapped.

All from a guy who stood by while his heroes weakened the Second Amendment year after year.

Did we get nuked yet? How did that NK missile launch go? You never answered my question, so I thought I'd ask again. Just in case you were hiding from big bad Kim Jong Un and didn't see my post. I know paranoia can do some nasty things.

I forgot, you and swish want to wait till we get Nuked before we act. No, not Nuked, Yet.

If you bothered to read the Thread you would already know about the NK missile.

It's quite simple. You uphold some of the very things you would have lambasted Obama for.

Your side "claims" that the constitution was not being followed by Obama and now uphold a president that claims the constitution is archaic and wants to change the first amendment.

And when was the second amendment weakened? I can still buy the same guns I could 30 years ago. Only not imports. Doesn't cutting out imports help make America great again?

You guys always use those fear tactics about gun rights but nothing is ever really been done to weaken those rights.

40, for fear tactics to work the target actually has to be scary.

For fear tactics to work, you have to have a clue there is a threat. You don't.

Only person who believes as strongly in the North Korean nuclear program as you is Kim Jong Un. You drinking punch or juche?

In the first 100 seconds.

It is quite simple.

Trump says politics is archaic.
You and your kind say Trump said the Constitution is archaic.

Trump says the Media should be sued for liable when they intentionally lie and looks into what it would take to allow that.
You and yours say Trump wants to crush the First Amendment and shut down freedom of the Press.

Trump says Iran is not living up to the "Spirit" of the Iran treaty while Tilerson says Iran is in compliance.
Your media says the white house is in disarray and not on the same page with each other. While the truth is that Iran is both compliant and not living up to the spirit of the treaty by funding terrorism.

And then you finish by saying Obama did nothing to curtail or undermine our Second Amendment Rights!

It is as you say, quite simple. Simple to see the games being played here.

So what did he do to undermine our 2nd amendment rights 40? Show me.

I can not take the time to list them all and once again educate you.

Google is your friend.