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Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
So now we drafted a QB. What else are people going to beach about?

I'd have rather taken a corner.
They are going to beach about taking a QB instead of a corner smile


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I do not love the pick. But I do not hate it. Kizer has talent, hopefully we can bring it out. Could have used a CB or another S that would provide immediate help. Maybe we will trade our 3rd rounder to move back later in the third and maybe get a 4th rounder.

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His biggest problem is that he's the best QB on the roster. I let him take his lumps on the field and see him blossom.



The kid needs a lot of work - I am sure we will hear about an open competition in camp but he might need 8 / 10 games watching first - he will be lucky if CK & BO can avoid being concussed before the week 9 bye

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Originally Posted By: Rishuz
This draft cannot get any worse.


Can't get worse? We got an elite pass rusher, a safety and the 2nd best TE in the first along with a first next year. Now we took a QB. Even if Kizer doesn't become our franchise QB and is just a solid backup it's worth a low 2nd. I usually hate our drafts but right now I'd grade us as an A- so far.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
My philosophy is what tony dungy says.

You got a guy that's suppose to be the franchise, you start his ass day 1. That's the fastest way these kids develop is to play.




Who said he is the franchise guy? He's a 2nd round pick. We are throwing a dart here.


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I'm OK with it...3rd string, hopefully doesn't play and can develop. If they don't like what they see in the next year, draft one in the first round

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Who was the guy Hue sent RG3 out to train with last off season?


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Draft the whole lot. You'd think we'd have to hit something!

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Well he's big, strong and has the arm strength. He's probably 2 years away from starting. If he gets good coaching and he isn't thrown to the wolves like so many other of our qb's we may have something. Patience and teaching that's what is needed here. I hope he becomes a future pro bowler.

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Who was the guy Hue sent RG3 out to train with last off season?


Tom House. Kessler has been with him all off-season.

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My philosophy is what tony dungy says.

You got a guy that's suppose to be the franchise, you start his ass day 1. That's the fastest way these kids develop is to play.




Who said he is the franchise guy? He's a 2nd round pick. We are throwing a dart here.


Come on bro. He got picked to potentially be the guy.


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At least we have a new QB to talk about.

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Kizer is from Toledo? That's something for some people to hang on to.

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
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Who was the guy Hue sent RG3 out to train with last off season?


Tom House. Kessler has been with him all off-season.


Time to get Kizer out there and start practicing too. Send Brock out as well. smile


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His biggest problem is that he's the best QB on the roster. I let him take his lumps on the field and see him blossom.



The kid needs a lot of work - I am sure we will hear about an open competition in camp but he might need 8 / 10 games watching first - he will be lucky if CK & BO can avoid being concussed before the week 9 bye


Know how I know you probably havent paid much attention to what this team has done this off-season?

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I'm ok with the pick..l wasn't a reach... Kid has talent but is inconsistent... Hopefully he can gain some consistency... I'd prefer he sit for awhile...


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Yeah, i hate to tell people this, but he might clearly be our QB1.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
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My philosophy is what tony dungy says.

You got a guy that's suppose to be the franchise, you start his ass day 1. That's the fastest way these kids develop is to play.




Who said he is the franchise guy? He's a 2nd round pick. We are throwing a dart here.


Come on bro. He got picked to potentially be the guy.


and how has that worked out in the past? Play him when he's ready not before


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BO is our starter if he has ANY drive at all. I'm hoping Kessler astounds us though...

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Really wanted Alvin Kamara here. We didn't reach and that's where all the qbs should have went but I feel we still will be drafting one early next year.


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Well they didn't reach. They let the pick come to them and didn't trade up. Also Kizer had no help at Notre Dame. Who knows, maybe the kid will be ok. But it tells me that the job is Kesler's to lose.


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I had a strong feeling he was going to be a Steeler ... the more I think about it, the more I like the pick. Its like the lottery: you can't win if you don't play. We are due to catch a break with a QB.

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
His biggest problem is that he's the best QB on the roster. I let him take his lumps on the field and see him blossom.



The kid needs a lot of work - I am sure we will hear about an open competition in camp but he might need 8 / 10 games watching first - he will be lucky if CK & BO can avoid being concussed before the week 9 bye


Know how I know you probably havent paid much attention to what this team has done this off-season?



I know what we've done in free agency on the offensive line

That has very little to do with the quality and fragility of the quarterback room

RG3 & McCown are good examples of cuncussing themselves with their play (holding ball to long / not sliding etc ) - glad we are past them .....

But CK has a history and BO sucks


So go ahead and tell me how you know what you know

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The fact tat Hue thinks that he is a " QB Whisper " is going to ruin him as a head coach .. This was another wasted pick ..
Take him the forth or fifth and would say fine . I really don;t want Hue picking my QB !

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I wonder if MKC has tweeted him asking for a soiled jock strap to hang on her wall.....

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http://presnapreads.com/2017/04/05/deshone-kizer-and-diverging-traits/

Interesting article on Kizer, has lots of GIFs though, so won't try to copy and paste.


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So Kizer is something like Jeff Garcia and Derek Anderson? That's what I gathered from the article.

Teach him to throw accurate passes, and maybe we've got a winner on our hands.

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BO is our starter if he has ANY drive at all. I'm hoping Kessler astounds us though...


All three guys are second round talent

BO was drafted there and has never proven anything to me to change that

Kessler has played above his third round status and has a little upside

Kizer is the new 2nd rounder with the most upside



I am rooting for Kessler to start and pass to Kizer in game 10 / 12

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Originally Posted By: GrimmBrown
http://presnapreads.com/2017/04/05/deshone-kizer-and-diverging-traits/

Interesting article on Kizer, has lots of GIFs though, so won't try to copy and paste.


Good article!

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j/c:

Our draft is getting ugly. Terrible pick.

It appears the Browns desire physical specimens over football players.

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our draft is not ugly , just this pick in the second round

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We traded the 12th overall pick and ended up w/Peppers. We moved up for a TE that isn't as good as some guys who were drafted later than him. We drafted a qb that makes some of the ugliest throws in the world.

We did get Garrett, though.

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Quote:
“No one else can do what I can do. And I’ve truly figured out in this (draft) process, if I can maximize all my potential in every aspect of the game – this is bold – I do have the ability to be the greatest quarterback to ever play. Imagine taking (Tom) Brady’s intellect and Brady’s preparation and putting it on a guy with Cam Newton’s body. Why can’t I be the greatest? The only thing stopping me from it is me. That’s what’s driving me now.”


Here's hoping kid,,,,


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“No one else can do what I can do. And I’ve truly figured out in this (draft) process, if I can maximize all my potential in every aspect of the game – this is bold – I do have the ability to be the greatest quarterback to ever play. Imagine taking (Tom) Brady’s intellect and Brady’s preparation and putting it on a guy with Cam Newton’s body. Why can’t I be the greatest? The only thing stopping me from it is me. That’s what’s driving me now.”


Here's hoping kid,,,,


I do wish he had a little more confidence. wink

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I'm ok with yesterday .. they really reached in the second , and I hate that.. To much talent still sitting there . They could take Three QB'S in the fifth for Hue to play with and I wouldn't care ..

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Originally Posted By: clevesteve
This might sound crazy, but I kinda love this pick. Maybe in an MKC kind of way.


From now on, it's Mary Bae Cabot.


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Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
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This might sound crazy, but I kinda love this pick. Maybe in an MKC kind of way.


From now on, it's Mary Bae Cabot.


Mary Bae QB


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Wanted Webb, but liked Kizer as well. Good pick. Has all the tools to be the real deal.

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