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Browns trade up

Browns trade 145 and 175, get back 252

Wilson Howard? CB?

Thoughts people?

Looks like we moved up to #126
Any body know anything about this Howard from Houston?

What happened? Wheres our pick.

Picked a cornerback .. Houston

Looks like he had an ACL injury 2015.

Joe Marino‏

#Browns taking CB Howard Wilson is tremendous. Ball skills are outstanding, instincts are excellent and he's physical. High upside pick

PRESENTED BY
CBHOWARD WILSONHOUSTON AAC
Photo of Howard Wilson

COMBINE RESULTS
GRADE
5.48
?
4.57 SEC
33.5 INCH
119.0 INCH
6.68 SEC
Top Performer
3.94 SEC
Top PerformerBLUE STAR = COMBINE TOP PERFORMER
6'1"
HEIGHT
31 3/8"
ARM LENGTH
184LBS.
WEIGHT
9 5/8"
HANDS

OVERVIEW
William Jackson III rose to the ranks of elite prospects during the buildup to the 2016 NFL Draft. Wilson saw his teammate go through that process and decided that he is ready to impress evaluators with his talents. He showed them a lot in 2016, earning first-team All-American Athletic Conference honors by leading his team with five interceptions (also 54 tackles and five pass break-ups). Wilson had hoped to break out with Jackson in 2015, but he tore up his knee after an interception in the season's third game and was awarded a medical redshirt. The second-team all-state pick from Texas was a great recruiting pickup for Houston, and he showed why as a true freshman. Wilson picked off three passes and made 48 tackles that year, playing in all 13 games and starting three.

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS Took the ball away in high school and continued to do it in college. Averaged an interception (nine total) every 15 targets despite just one season as a full-time starter. Drapes his length over throwing windows. Has impressive burst to ball that brings him into range to make plays on the throw. Has the size and speed to stay with burners down the field. Springy leaper with catch radius to ruin the 50/50 tries. Always monitoring quarterback from off-man and zone. Will take a direct line to the ball when he decides to trigger. Has the hips and feet to mirror and match all over the field. Well-coached and experienced in a variety of techniques. Shows no fear when it's time to come get ball carriers as a tackler. Goes low and goes hard.

WEAKNESSES Has very limited experience relative to the rest of the cornerbacks in this draft. Missed most of 2015 with an ACL tear that teams will look into at the combine. Will require additional time to hone his pattern recognition and instincts down the field. Has a very thin frame with skinny legs. Lacks desired muscular definition and needs a full year of work in an NFL weight program to pack on necessary muscle. Plays a little too upright at times. Scouts believe he could struggle early inside a complicated defensive scheme.
DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 5-6

SOURCES TELL US "He played bail coverage all game long against DeDe Westbrook so it was hard to get anything out of that. He has a lot of physical talent but I think he will struggle if you ask him to go from his conference into taking on NFL route-runners. Might have been a first-round prospect if he had gone back." -- AFC Director of College Scouting
NFL COMPARISON Jeremy Lane

BOTTOM LINE Smooth athlete with excellent length who has a long history of making plays on the football. Wilson is fast and fluid and he's willing to do his part as a tackler, but he needs more muscle and more experience before he's ready to handle some of the physical receivers he will see in the league. Wilson's size, speed and ball skills will be coveted traits and they give him a chance to become a good NFL starter with time.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/howard-wilson?id=2558158

Pro Football Focus‏

Pick 126: The Browns select Houston CB Howard Wilson. #BrownsDraft

QBs had a passer rating of 45.1 when targeting Wilson, 13th-best in CFB.

What we give up? Wilson is another one with potential and talent - projected as a potential 1st rounder before his ACL.

Browns trade 145 and 175, get back 252

ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Took the ball away in high school and continued to do it in college. Averaged an interception (nine total) every 15 targets despite just one season as a full-time starter. Drapes his length over throwing windows. Has impressive burst to ball that brings him into range to make plays on the throw. Has the size and speed to stay with burners down the field. Springy leaper with catch radius to ruin the 50/50 tries. Always monitoring quarterback from off-man and zone. Will take a direct line to the ball when he decides to trigger. Has the hips and feet to mirror and match all over the field. Well-coached and experienced in a variety of techniques. Shows no fear when it's time to come get ball carriers as a tackler. Goes low and goes hard.
WEAKNESSES Has very limited experience relative to the rest of the cornerbacks in this draft. Missed most of 2015 with an ACL tear that teams will look into at the combine. Will require additional time to hone his pattern recognition and instincts down the field. Has a very thin frame with skinny legs. Lacks desired muscular definition and needs a full year of work in an NFL weight program to pack on necessary muscle. Plays a little too upright at times. Scouts believe he could struggle early inside a complicated defensive scheme.

Like the pick despite us not picking King....

something must be up with king

If Gregg Williams signed off, I love it. Not a ton of experience, but makes plays on the ball. His agent shut him down which I thought might turn Williams off to him.

Some thought he could be a 1st rounder next year if he returned to school. We're not in win now mode really, so I like it.

Least we've heard of him...and around 4th round or so is where he was expected to get plucked...solid pick as we need corner help.

Yeah I agree

In trade, #Browns get 126 and 252 from #Broncos for 145 and 175. Cleveland has picks 181, 185, 188 and 252 left.

i see DEN didn't wanna trade mr irrelevant

Have we drafted anybody that played in the senior bowl?
Has Chicago?

Seems like teams that coach the senior bowl alwaas draft 1-2 players that they fell in love with during senior bowl week.

that DT did IIRC

Ogunjobi

switzer to DAL

I was hoping we could get Switzer ... Oh Well

There ya go.
I didn't know he played in the senior bowl
I didn't hear much about him

Steelers took a QB, Josh Dobbs

Bummed about Dobbs going to the Steelers

dang

I just got back from a lunch run and of course we picked!

We traded up and didn't take King? Was there a video of a bong connected to a gas mask that I don't know about?

Howard is a good athlete, but is really raw. It might take some time to get him on the field.

sigh... at least it was a DB.

Yeah, there's gotta be something up with King. Everyone who I thought/heard would be taken after him, has been taken before him...

Bengals took a DT

Ryan Glasgow

That was actually a good pick for them.

wait!!! Did we get Mr irrelevant!
I looked last night 252, wondered why not 255, 3 forfeited picks, either that or 253

I hope we got Mr Irrelevant, we can have our choice of every UDFA.

Just a crazy thought.

( trade down for the final 5 picks, and then don't select anyone, then... Any UDFA who signs with another team that we want" Say we drafted him, the best 5.)

Obviously they'd never allow it!
Open and close of the draft, a feel good story. Phooey.

DEN obviously wanted to keep mr irrelevant

They can keep John Elway.

run on wrs

Looks like our next pick is #181

Lots of really good interior lineman left, but we really don't need any.