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No idea? At least it's a DB


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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What was the trade?

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What was the trade?
Browns trade 145 and 175, get back 252


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/howard-wilson?id=2558158

William Jackson III rose to the ranks of elite prospects during the buildup to the 2016 NFL Draft. Wilson saw his teammate go through that process and decided that he is ready to impress evaluators with his talents. He showed them a lot in 2016, earning first-team All-American Athletic Conference honors by leading his team with five interceptions (also 54 tackles and five pass break-ups). Wilson had hoped to break out with Jackson in 2015, but he tore up his knee after an interception in the season's third game and was awarded a medical redshirt. The second-team all-state pick from Texas was a great recruiting pickup for Houston, and he showed why as a true freshman. Wilson picked off three passes and made 48 tackles that year, playing in all 13 games and starting three.


STRENGTHS
Took the ball away in high school and continued to do it in college. Averaged an interception (nine total) every 15 targets despite just one season as a full-time starter. Drapes his length over throwing windows. Has impressive burst to ball that brings him into range to make plays on the throw. Has the size and speed to stay with burners down the field. Springy leaper with catch radius to ruin the 50/50 tries. Always monitoring quarterback from off-man and zone. Will take a direct line to the ball when he decides to trigger. Has the hips and feet to mirror and match all over the field. Well-coached and experienced in a variety of techniques. Shows no fear when it's time to come get ball carriers as a tackler. Goes low and goes hard.

WEAKNESSES
Has very limited experience relative to the rest of the cornerbacks in this draft. Missed most of 2015 with an ACL tear that teams will look into at the combine. Will require additional time to hone his pattern recognition and instincts down the field. Has a very thin frame with skinny legs. Lacks desired muscular definition and needs a full year of work in an NFL weight program to pack on necessary muscle. Plays a little too upright at times. Scouts believe he could struggle early inside a complicated defensive scheme.

DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 5-6
SOURCES TELL US "He played bail coverage all game long against DeDe Westbrook so it was hard to get anything out of that. He has a lot of physical talent but I think he will struggle if you ask him to go from his conference into taking on NFL route-runners. Might have been a first-round prospect if he had gone back." -- AFC Director of College Scouting

NFL COMPARISON Jeremy Lane

BOTTOM LINE Smooth athlete with excellent length who has a long history of making plays on the football. Wilson is fast and fluid and he's willing to do his part as a tackler, but he needs more muscle and more experience before he's ready to handle some of the physical receivers he will see in the league. Wilson's size, speed and ball skills will be coveted traits and they give him a chance to become a good NFL starter with time.

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ACL injury, yikes...

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sounds like another big upside guy. not much experience


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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He is a safety at this level. Tremendous instincts in zone but gets abused in man.

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Did we really have to trade up for him?


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he's going to be a safety i bet


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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The Steelers wire thought he may be an option for them in the 3rd round. So there was value where he was selected.

http://steelerswire.usatoday.com/2017/03/29/steelers-2017-nfl-draft-prospect-howard-wilson/


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Good pick... Yes, either safety or nickle CB.


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Originally Posted By: jfanent
Did we really have to trade up for him?


I had him on my list of guys I'd like today, but didn't think he'd make it to our pick.

In regards to the ACL, he's played a season since, and will be 2 years removed when he gets to us.

Not the greatest 40 at the combine, but his agility drills were great.


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I hope he does well, how many years can he play, I hope he plays a long time, if he earns a spot.

I hope he helps them beat Pittsburgh.


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Howard Wilson - DB - Browns

Browns traded up to select Houston CB Howard Wilson with the No. 126 overall pick in the 2017 NFL draft.

Wilson (6’1/184) turned pro after making just 16 starts in three years at Houston, tallying nine interceptions and earning first-team American Athletic Conference as a 2016 junior. Wilson struggled in the forty (4.57) and jumps in Indy, but ripped up the three-cone drill (6.68) and short shuttle (3.94) and profiles as a quick-twitch playmaker, even if NFL teams will be hesitant to line him up outside. Wilson’s short-area quickness and ball skills make him a compelling prospect.


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I like this pick


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Originally Posted By: GrimmBrown
In regards to the ACL, he's played a season since, and will be 2 years removed when he gets to us.


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Looks very instinctive and natural, not very physical, looks like he has good speed and burst. Hope he works out. Looks like a decent selection at this point of the draft!

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/howard-wilson-vs-tulsa-2016/


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Fits FS to perfection IMO


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Good pick !

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Love this pick. I was big on him with my first-draft mocks. 4th round is perfect value.

Look at his highlight video and check him out. He's feisty.


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Out of curiosity why does every highlight video have to have some sort of gangsta shoot em up boom boom music?


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Originally Posted By: slick
Out of curiosity why does every highlight video have to have some sort of gangsta shoot em up boom boom music?
don't the players usually put them together


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Originally Posted By: slick
Out of curiosity why does every highlight video have to have some sort of gangsta shoot em up boom boom music?
don't the players usually put them together


I've notice the same thing. Not everybody loves rap!

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Hey, if it motivates a guy to play, it motivates a guy to play. If I'm a scout watching YouTube videos, I'll just turn the sound off.


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If you're a scout and you're watching highlight videos on YouTube then you should be fired.


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Ball hawking developmental safety? Not sure about this pick. Never heard of him.

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184 Lb safety? I am thinking CB...

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He'll be a 3 or 4 CB for us. (I would expect)


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He'll be a CB right now there are 3 ahead of him at the least. Best he learns get a little experience here and there. Become a pro and work real hard on his conditioning in 2018...see where it gets us. All you can ask. Hope he does well on special teams!


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JMHO, easy motivation, show them the numbers- 53 slots- so, do you want to eat well more than the other guy- numbers- easy motivation.....GO Browns!!!!


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Just listened to Wilson's conference call.

He had me laughing quite a bit. He's very confident in his ability. Said he's excited to work with Joe Haden, and also to work with Jabrill Peppers as they both respect each other's game.

Really excited to what this guy can bring. Start him as the 4th DB, and let him work.


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Originally Posted By: HotBYoungTurk
Just listened to Wilson's conference call.



I tried but, his accent is so heavy I struggled to understand him! Granted, I was listening on my phone and there was a lot of background noise. Kinda like being in Scotland tho...same language but, nigh impossible to understand the thick accent and Scottish slang (especially if they have had a few drinks!).

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Originally Posted By: HotBYoungTurk
Just listened to Wilson's conference call.

He had me laughing quite a bit. He's very confident in his ability. Said he's excited to work with Joe Haden, and also to work with Jabrill Peppers as they both respect each other's game.

Really excited to what this guy can bring. Start him as the 4th DB, and let him work.


I gotta say when asked if he could put on weight, he said something like "yeah if I put on 200, they'll have to put me at outside linebacker" haha it too made me laugh. He's a very high-energy guy, can tell that in his voice.

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Just listened to Wilson's conference call.



I tried but, his accent is so heavy I struggled to understand him! Granted, I was listening on my phone and there was a lot of background noise. Kinda like being in Scotland tho...same language but, nigh impossible to understand the thick accent and Scottish slang (especially if they have had a few drinks!).


That's a nice way of saying it. lol. He has a deep, 'urban' southern draw for sure.


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I bet there aren't many guys in the NFL named Howard.
I dunno if he'll be good, but on a related topic, where are we at with our corners?
Haden, Boddy-Calhoun and Taylor. Al of them will look better with a pass rush and getting MG hopefully has helped solve that problem.


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Originally Posted By: lampdogg
I bet there aren't many guys in the NFL named Howard..


There is currently one other Howard.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/J/JoneHo01.htm

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This is my sleeper of the draft picks. He always looked like he played hard for Tom Herman.

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I hope you are right. I don't know much about him.

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Poor guy, lets hope he plays well enough that they don't call him Howard Johnson again on the Brown's show.

In regards to his play from the limited amounts I have watched of him he does have a knack for finding the ball. I can see how some translate that into a FS conversion but I have a feeling he was brought in first and foremost to be a nickle/dime player to start.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I hope you are right. I don't know much about him.


Nor do I, but from what I've watched - I'm pretty pumped. WR hands. 6'1'' frame that should allow for some weight/muscle to be added. Competitive.

I'm kind of leaning with CHS here. I feel like he may be my sleeper pick out of this class too.

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