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Funny how laws can help those with-in the law and hurt those who aren't.
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Hey Peen when I was stationed in Tenn. I got to tickets in 1986 for 89 and 77, both in a 55 miles an hour zone (no reckless ops?). Never paid them. If I were to get stopped in Tenn. would anything happen?
peen, I found this little treasure buried on the first page...what do you think? Does pdawg have anything to worry about driving in Tennessee? Would the statute of limitations involve matters that are non felony traffic violations?
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Just for the record DPG, I fully admit I was young (17) and stupid.
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Maybe because you seem to be willing to stiff this guy??
I said i can't pay right now but i will when i can...i did talk to the guy like everyone said and explained to him what happened....as it turns out his son doesn't even have a license...he had a learning permit! he doesn't even have insurance!
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You probably don't have insurance and was hoping this would just go away since your car didn't get too messed up..
I am full insurnace...boy i would not wanna b judged by you peen 
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Had it been the other way you would be on here seeking ways to sue his ass since he hasn't fixed your car yet and complaining about a sore neck..
I'm sorry you think so low of me...i would never sue anyone if they don't deserve it...i gotta say peen this comming from someone else would have jus rolled off my back but it kind of sucks commin from you...  
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a general comment....
This is a good example of why you shouldn't try to cut someone some slack and just go ahead and call the police and have the matter taken care of then and there.
IF both parties agree to take care of the matter w/o police and insurance there shouldn't be the need to file a report...i don't get why you guys are so pissy today..
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Thanks everyone for their 2 cents,, i got the matter resolved....he said he will pay for MY damages and i will pay for his and we will call it a day!
His son not having insurance and license explains why he didn't do anything about it for 2 weeks...i straight up told him how i felt and he agreed and said his son did stop at a unreasonable spot on the road...he told me not to worry about him suing me(this is honestly all i cared about)
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i don't plan on NOT paying the guy but i just want to delay it..i was wondering if he can get pissed n call the cops meanwhile?
...it sounds as if BrownBuck doesn't have insurance.
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And if you don't have insurance (either one of you) Ohio law allows you to file an accident report 6 months from now to be compensated..... 
If a report is made, he will have to show proof of insurance at the time of the accident. That would either be a declarations page from the insurance company or a card with his vehicle VIN that was involved and the dates of the coverage with the date of the accident inclusive of those dates shown on the card.
If BrownBuck goes to file a report, he will be cited for assured clear distance (ORC 4511.21) and if he doesn't have proof of insurance, he better prepare for the other driver to file a report, and be charged with ORC 4509.06 and have his license suspended in regards to ORC 4509.101
You'd do better to call that kid's dad, tell him not to make a report, and make payment arrangements.
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According to your post before my last one, than I guess you can totally dismiss my post previous to this one then.
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I do have insurance DPG...but i don't want my premium to go up...i have 2 points right now...i can't afford to pay more..
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I've jus gotten screwed before by someone else...so i'm wondering if i'm in the clear or not...i didn't know if the dad is goin to b n ass n milk me for all i got...turns out he isn't horrible...at least i think so far...
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I've jus gotten screwed before by someone else...so i'm wondering if i'm in the clear or not...i didn't know if the dad is goin to b n ass n milk me for all i got...turns out he isn't horrible...at least i think so far...
Well, if you have insurance, and the dad does file a police report, you would get the assured clear distance, and his son would be screwed for a while, his son would get the driver license suspension, and when reinstated, his insurance rates would be sky high for at least 5 years.
It is probably worth it to the father not to file because of that latter part about high rates for 5 years. His son, once reinstated would have to also purchase an SR-22 bond along with his insurance and that just makes your premium a lot higher.
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This is true...but what if he claims he was driving n i'm not telling the truth...yes i'm a bit paranoid...o well i hope it all works out..
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If the father did that, then you would get cited for the assured clear distance, and the father could then sue you for damages and you or your insurance company would have to pay. That is why when peen said... Quote:
Just a general comment....
This is a good example of why you shouldn't try to cut someone some slack and just go ahead and call the police and have the matter taken care of then and there.
...because it just might come back to bite ya in the ass.
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If his son does not have a drivers license and no insurance, I don't know that I would not have presented a better deal, like they take care of their care and you take care of yours. They can easily take their car to a family friend (we have two) who could write a very high cost estimate for the damage.
When I was about 18 I was hit by a person coming left of center out of a private parking lot into a pubic road. We were not going to file a report but a state highway patrol officer happened to come by and check on us. The other guy was cited, but since his father in law was a judge, the officer changed the accident to no fault. About 3 or 4 months later I got a summons to court from their insurance company lawyer. I did not have insurance and got hammered for about $1800.
Also, in assured clear distance collisions, it seems like quite a few people in the front car seem to go to the hospital to get checked out for that kink in the neck that suddenly appears, and that runs about 3 grand.
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The son does not need insurance if the Dad owns the car and already pays insurance on it. You pay insurance on a car, not a driver. And if he has a lerner's permit and the Dad is licensed, there's no issue there either. He was driving legally.
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..because it just might come back to bite ya in the ass.
Um...r u telling me that if the cops were there that they would not sue me at a later date? you are extremely naive if you believe that...if someone wants to sue me that wont stop them...they can easily say that the next day they started feeling dizzy or unwell n blabhabh or got a nasty whiplash that prevented them to go to work or somethin like that and sue me...
I say this because this is exactly what happened to me when i was 18...fortunately my insurance laywers fought off the case(i think they ended up paying out of court or something, but at least i didn't have to deal with it..)
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i thought about that too...but something just seems fishy...he is the one who is acting like he is at fault not me...when cearly legally i'm the one at fault...which leads me to believe he wants to hide something...
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If that's the case, I would suggest thatyou take care of your damages and he takes care of his.
Or if you're paying for their damage, have them take it to a shop of YOUR choice.
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That is the plan...i'm going to tell him if he wants me to fix his car he has to do it at a place i take it to....not his place...
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There isn't a limitation on collecting a fine. How the case was disposed of is a question I will have to check. It may have been sent to a judge as a default and a bench warrant issued...or....it may have been lost in a pile of paperwork that will never surface....or it might surface when the county in question elects a new clerk and he/she decides to start looking into uncollected fines.
All states that I am aware of have what is known as a Non-resident Violator Compact. Basically it states that regardless of where you receive a ticket, you must meet all requirements to satisfy the ticket, including court appearances. If you do not, you risk having your license suspended or revoked by the issuing state until the ticket has been satisfied and all fines have been paid to the state that issued the fine. The days of making it to the county line are long gone.
I assume this was on a Tennessee license and when he moved back to Ohio it wasn't picked up.....states do a better job of sharing info these days as compared to 20 years ago.
Can he get in trouble?? If there is an outstanding warrant sitting in the shadows he could as there is no limitation on a bench warrant unless a judge retracts it.
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The son does not need insurance if the Dad owns the car and already pays insurance on it. You pay insurance on a car, not a driver. And if he has a lerner's permit and the Dad is licensed, there's no issue there either. He was driving legally.
That is absolutely correct.
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No Peen it was an Ohio license. I was stationed in Tenn. at the time of the tickets. This also happened before states started to cooperate.
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well here is the deal...
I hit the kid from the back..i know i know...you automaticly will think it's my fault...but it was raining pretty hard...he was driving with his dad and we were both in the right only turn lane....
He keept driving through the yellow...so did i...as soon as he turned right he slammeeeeed on his breaks to stop...and i had no time to stop...so i turned my wheel all the way right to avoid hitting his car but my car didn't stop in time nor could drive around his and i barely hit him(i was going around 10-15mph).. if u look at my car there is almost no damage...i can't even tell unless i'm real close to it...his car however had some minor bumper damage...
His dad gets out to talk with me n says i told him to stop because it was red...and i was so mad...cuz it was yellow n he stopped after turning RIGHT!! i told him how he should also teach his son not to break so hard for no freaking reason...when it's raining so this bad
So i really don't care if i don't get anything fixed...cuz there is nothing to fix on my car...however he called me 2 weeks later today!! (all we exchanged was name n phone #s) i thought he jus wanted to move on n not worry about it...but i guess he wants me to pay! so i was jus wondering if i'm still obligated to pay for this! (i jus assumed that if we called the cops they would have said it was my fault since i hit him from the back...but i think tht is bulllllll)
Well it is your fault. The whole failure to control thing.
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Man............you should have called the police and had them come to the location!
It is always good when the police do the accident report......normally a citation is issued to the guilty party......
I've been in volved in two accidents. One I was sitting at a red light and a car hit from behind. It was late and dark and snowing and it didn't look like much damage so we exchanged infromation. THe next day when I looked at it more closely it had more damage than I origanlly thought so I called the guy and got his insurance company out they took care of everything no problem.
The other time I was making a left hand turn from a oneway and my vision was obstucted by parked cars. I thought the way was finally clear when I pulled out but then I heard a squeal of brakes and felt my car get hit on the back quarter. From the looks of the skid he was traveling pretty fast, We called the police and neither of us was cited. He was drivng a county vehicle and since neither one was cited my insurance paid to fix my car. Later he sued me be injuries and my insurance was canceled.
So though calling the police to teh scene may be best in most cases it hasn't been in my experience.
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Just bumping this cuz my mom and brother were just in an accident on the highway on the way home from visiting Miami University. They're ok, as in "not going to the hospital" ok.
Some IDIOT in the left lane decided to cut into the center lane without looking, clipped the car in front of them and my mom couldn't slow down in time.
What a jolt to the nervous system. No driving for me this weekend.
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well here is the deal...
I hit the kid from the back..i know i know...you automaticly will think it's my fault...but it was raining pretty hard...he was driving with his dad and we were both in the right only turn lane....
He keept driving through the yellow...so did i...as soon as he turned right he slammeeeeed on his breaks to stop...and i had no time to stop...so i turned my wheel all the way right to avoid hitting his car but my car didn't stop in time nor could drive around his and i barely hit him(i was going around 10-15mph).. if u look at my car there is almost no damage...i can't even tell unless i'm real close to it...his car however had some minor bumper damage...
His dad gets out to talk with me n says i told him to stop because it was red...and i was so mad...cuz it was yellow n he stopped after turning RIGHT!! i told him how he should also teach his son not to break so hard for no freaking reason...when it's raining so this bad
So i really don't care if i don't get anything fixed...cuz there is nothing to fix on my car...however he called me 2 weeks later today!! (all we exchanged was name n phone #s) i thought he jus wanted to move on n not worry about it...but i guess he wants me to pay! so i was jus wondering if i'm still obligated to pay for this! (i jus assumed that if we called the cops they would have said it was my fault since i hit him from the back...but i think tht is bulllllll)
Well it is your fault. The whole failure to control thing.
Wait let me get this straight...i hit someone from the back and it was my fault? thanks for the info...i didn't figure that out after 2 pages worth of posters telling me it was my fault....here is your sign (please refer to the stupid sign thread to understand what i meant by "here is your sign")
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Wait let me get this straight...i hit someone from the back and it was my fault? thanks for the info...i didn't figure that out after 2 pages worth of posters telling me it was my fault....here is your sign (please refer to the stupid sign thread to understand what i meant by "here is your sign")
Let's get it straight? How about as straight as an arrow. You were following too close.
You are at fault.
If you think I, or anyone else who told you that you are at fault and this is wrong, please feel free to file your accident report, telling the police and BMV you hit a person from behind and you don't believe it is your fault. Please do it.
...and also, please let me know the level of laughter that happened right after you told them that.
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