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Report: NFL denies Josh Gordon's reinstatementThe NFL has made a decision on Browns WR Josh Gordon. Josh Edwards The NFL has denied Cleveland Browns wide receiver Josh Gordon's request to be reinstated to the league according to Tom Pelissero of USA TODAY. He can re-apply in the fall. Commissioner Roger Goodell reinstated Gordon on a conditional basis last July. He would have to serve a four-game suspension before returning. After Week Three, he voluntarily entered an in-patient rehabilitation facility. He then applied for reinstatement again on Mar. 1, 2017. The Baylor product entered the league as a second-round selection of the 2012 NFL Supplemental Draft. He made one Pro Bowl appearance in 2013 but the large majority of his career has been spent on the league's suspended list. He has amassed 161 receptions for 2,754 yards and 14 touchdowns in 35 games. http://cle.247sports.com/Bolt/Report-NFL-denies-Josh-Gordons-reinstatement--52714405
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Time to put this topic to rest.
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It's good to have closure.... until this fall when he applies again.
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Dang. One less 7 page debate
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One of the most gifted WRs I have ever seen play on Sundays He had a talent most in the NFL would dream about. Great job Tom Heckert Your no longer a GM for a reason
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lol, there's been plenty of Browns GMs that made worse 1st and 2nd round picks than Josh Gordon. Plenty. Remember guys like Chaun Thompson, Brian Robiskie, David Veikune, Justin Gilbert, trading a 2nd round pick for that guy who came here from the Packers.
Gordon has produced. He's let us down, but he's at least produced. We've had worse
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They'll reinstatement him in the fall just to screw with any chemistry the team has built.
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I wonder exactly when 'Fall' means here... September, October, maybe August?
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I wonder exactly when 'Fall' means here... September, October, maybe August? Fall in Texas is a seven day span in mid November
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I wonder exactly when 'Fall' means here... September, October, maybe August? Fall in Texas is a seven day span in mid November Officially it's mid to end of September everywhere in the USA
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Maybe they misread the NFL's statement that said he can apply for reinstatement after his next "fail"
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The exodus of Cleveland Browns wide receiver Josh Gordon rages on. The NFL has denied Gordon's reinstatement petition, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported Thursday, per a league source. Gordon, 26, filed papers in March to have his indefinite suspension lifted. It was no sure bet reinstatement would be granted after the pass-catcher voluntarily entered an in-patient rehabilitation facility last October to, in his words, "gain full control of my life." Earlier this offseason, Gordon's business manager, Michael Johnson, told ESPN's Adam Schefter that the receiver was faring well in his recovery. "Josh is living with me and is in the best place mentally that he has been in dating back years before entering the NFL," Johnson said. "He has taken the proper steps to treat his issues and has followed a very strict protocol that the league and our team here has laid out for him. He's also in the best shape of his life and feels even better than he did when he had his breakout year in 2013. This will be a special year for Josh and we are all very proud of the way he has taken the necessary steps to turn his life around." Anything resembling a "special year" is on hold for Gordon, who hasn't appeared in a regular-season game since 2014. The Browns weren't holding their breath for his return, having signed veteran Kenny Britt in the offseason to pair with 2016 first-round wideout Corey Coleman. Behind the duo, Cleveland has second-year receivers Rashard Higgins, Ricardo Louis and a fellow flock of untested targets. It's hardly an all-star group, but waiting around for Gordon to get back on track has become a fool's errand. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...r-reinstatement
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It's good to have closure.... until this fall when he applies again. Nice. 
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I think at this point the NFL should just stop stringing him along. Allow him to be with his team from start of minicamp UA him twice a week then if he fails BAN HIM!!! All this comeback when the season is gonna start each season does no one any good, him or us. Take the finger off the scale let the kid get his last opportunity since you have set him up this way. The league has all but begged him to get treatment he finally does and then the merry go round continues its just past ridiculous at this point.
There all done no more talking Gordon for me.
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Oh poor Josh. When will the league stop picking on him? When will they just give him a chance?
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Yep, I don't think it's the league's fault. LOL I thought this was interesting:
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Yawns .. looks for something else to read ...
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at what point does he run out of money? I'm guessing it's not far away (if he hasn't already)
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No choice but to do this King Roger's way, but the Browns already waited this long...what is another 4 months?
Just as soon as the Browns cut Josh, Goodell is going to reinstate him within the next few months and there will be 31 teams trying to sign Gordon.
Browns should just maintain the position that if Josh Gordon is going to play in the NFL, it is going to b e with the Browns.
Some want to pre-judge Gordon even though Goodell and the NFL gave no reason for holding up Gordon's reinstatement..and all of you could be wrong about him. What does it hurt for the Browns to wait a while longer?..it's not like the Browns were counting on him to fill any holes.
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I don't think the Browns should cut him. I just don't like the excuses that it's the league's fault. I don't buy that for one second.
Also, I didn't think the NFL gave out details of why players are suspended. Am I wrong about that one?
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I think this is part of the league playing hardball with the NFLPA. Gordon is just convenient leverage for Goodell as far as renegotiating marijuana rules and what players will give up. I think most Browns' fans have already written him off so their probably won't be significant pushback. Gordon brought it on himself, but it's a case of the letter of the law, and spirit of the law not really matching up.
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Since we are speculating..........I have a feeling that Gordon's life might be spiraling out of control and that he is a real mess. I hope he can find some peace and stability in his life and that he doesn't do anything to seriously harm himself irreparably.
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I think the NFL sucks Commission sucks in the decision making process .. It boils down to who it is , what team he plays for , Where they misse lunch and so on . No consistency at all ! Just for the record ; I could care less if Josh gets back in !
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Since I'm bored, I'll ask the simple question of "why?". If he went into rehab last October and applied for reinstatement just recently, why deny now? What new information will come that proves he's clean from now through the spring?
Is it just a matter of giving him more time to make another mistake? Why intentionally keep him away from the team?
I'm no fan of Josh and the way he's handled everything, but I'm just wondering why keep him away through the summer. Heck, reinstate him so we can cut him or reinstate him so he can attempt to make a comeback. If he's going to make another mistake, what difference does it make if he makes it while suspended?
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What if he has already made another mistake?
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at what point does he run out of money? I'm guessing it's not far away (if he hasn't already) I think people like him and Johnny have lines of credit miles long.
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What if he has already made another mistake? Right, he could have. We wouldn't know about it. But then the NFL would apply a longer suspension if he tested positive recently, not deny the old suspension. And if he did mess up again, why would be be allowed to apply again in a few months? Again, a longer suspension would be applied. I'm betting the league is sticking to the full year suspension as if it was chiseled in stone. If that's true, why allow him to apply for reinstatement now? As if, Josh would call the league and ask to submit the papers and their response would be, "Don't even bother asking us until September".
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I think at this point the NFL should just stop stringing him along. Allow him to be with his team from start of minicamp UA him twice a week then if he fails BAN HIM!!! All this comeback when the season is gonna start each season does no one any good, him or us. Take the finger off the scale let the kid get his last opportunity since you have set him up this way. The league has all but begged him to get treatment he finally does and then the merry go round continues its just past ridiculous at this point.
There all done no more talking Gordon for me. Not that I really care about what happens to him, but your thinking seems even handed.. Reinstate him now, test him twice a week, he fails one, ban him for life.. if he doesn't fail one, he plays and life goes on... Geez, that seems so simple
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Hmmmmm........things are not as upfront as I like, but I did see this: Confidentiality
The reason the public doesn't hear about infractions until a suspension is announced is because of rules about confidentiality. Particularly in Stage One, where the only consequences are fines, there is no reason the public would ever know about the infraction. In fact, there are $500,000 fines for people who violate a player's confidentiality when it comes to information about his diagnosis, treatment, test results and participation in the program.
Changes in New Policy
This drug policy is relatively new. Under this CBA, punishments are more harsh for DUIs, while some punishments for marijuana use are lower (e.g. in Stage Three the first infraction for marijuana is now 10 games instead of a year). Also significant, player appeals of drug-related punishments are heard by a neutral arbitrator, not the Commissioner. Full article here: http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/pit...bryant-steelers
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There might have been an issue at the time when he was going to be reinstated but went into rehab instead. The timing of his choice screamed "SOMETHING IS WRONG HERE!"
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I don't even care anymore.
Either let him play.
Or ban him forever.
Just end this. Please.
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Yeah. The word on twitter is that his agent cancelled their relationship. I follow him on instagram and snapchat and the places he trains at (just trying to keep track) and he's posts at those places. But that's all for the public eye. Man he's just really dumb about this. Yeah, he got dealt a bad hand by the NFL's original drug policy. It's since been changed after a few Steelers got suspended for weed. But the dude just needs to walk the straight and narrow for awhile. I hope he realizes that he's letting himself down and all the people supporting aka enabling him in the NFL. Dude needs to take accountability with his life. Maybe all the suspensions he's had made him not love football? Which is crazy since he was first team all pro. Doing that and not loving football? That's crazy. He needs to rededicate himself to the game.
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Him and Justin Blackmon are such huge waste of talent.
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I think at this point the NFL should just stop stringing him along. Allow him to be with his team from start of minicamp UA him twice a week then if he fails BAN HIM!!! All this comeback when the season is gonna start each season does no one any good, him or us. Take the finger off the scale let the kid get his last opportunity since you have set him up this way. The league has all but begged him to get treatment he finally does and then the merry go round continues its just past ridiculous at this point.
There all done no more talking Gordon for me. They did that LAST year. He was allowed to come into the building, take part in practice, etc. He even played a few plays in preseason. Then was suspended for four games and after that he could have started playing again. Coach Jackson put his neck out, Jim Brown vouched for the bum, and what happened? The week he was scheduled to come back he bolts to go to rehab. Fooling no one. He fell off the wagon and avoided a drug test by hitting rehab. He wouldn't be suspended right now if he had come back week five last year.... Meathead is meathead. He doesn't really want to PLAY. He wants the money.... The MINUTE he gets paid he will bolt again.
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All of this is really a moot point. He hasn't played in so long the belief that he could come back and be the huge talent he was supposed to be is a little silly. Even if he got it together and the NFL did allow him to play, the likelihood that he would play at a high level is extremely low. It would take a herculean effort to return to an above average level. Anyone think meathead is willing or capable to put in THAT kind of effort?
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Here is what says about Confidentiality in the NFL's Policy and Programs On Substances Abuse: Edit: Heck, that looks like crap. Here is the link and the Confidentiality Section is on pages 6 and 7, 1.2 Confidentiality ...... 6 1.2.1 Program Information...6 1.2.2 Program Information Provided to Clubs...7 1.2.3 Discipline for Violations of Confidentiality ....7 https://nflpaweb.blob.core.windows.net/media/Default/PDFs/Agents/2016SOAPolicy_v2.pdfI think people should be wary of taking a player's word for the supposed reasons for the suspension. Breaching the confidentiality is a no-no w/the league. Thus, the players can say almost anything they want.
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