DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Report: NFL denies Josh Gordon's reinstatement

I wish a detailed reason of why was provided. Frustrating as a fan because it leads to so much speculation.

Since I'm bored, I'll ask the simple question of "why?". If he went into rehab last October and applied for reinstatement just recently, why deny now? What new information will come that proves he's clean from now through the spring?

Is it just a matter of giving him more time to make another mistake? Why intentionally keep him away from the team?

I'm no fan of Josh and the way he's handled everything, but I'm just wondering why keep him away through the summer. Heck, reinstate him so we can cut him or reinstate him so he can attempt to make a comeback. If he's going to make another mistake, what difference does it make if he makes it while suspended?

I agree with this... That was one of my first thoughts... I personally feel you either need to tell him he can be reinstated or he will never be.... What is the point of another 3-4 months of waiting... What does he have to do in those 3-4 months to sway the NFL either way?

stop failing drug tests?

If he is presently failing drug tests, wouldn't his waiting period grow to many more months / a year?

from what i heard on the radio they give him another chace after 90 days... they might add a suspension to start with though like they did last year...

stop failing drug tests?

The NFL hates Josh Gordon. The NFL hates the Browns. They are so unfair.

Where's my tissue?

Kicked off Baylor's team due to drugs

Kicked out of Utah

Likely failed a drug test his rookie year that was not reported on because it did not lead to suspension

Failed a drug test his second year, reduced to two games on appeal

Failed a drug test his third year, this was supposed to be a yearlong suspension

While waiting for an appeal on this suspension, he went out and got a DUI, one of biggest slaps in the face of a commissioner I've ever seen

Despite this slap in the face, the NFL took what could have been a yearlong suspension plus more for the DUI, and wrapped it up into a very fair 10 game suspension with an agreement that he cannot drink alcohol, because of the DUI

Gordon comes back and gives 5 games of lazy, half-hearted effort, then parties too hard with Johnny Manziel, doesn't show up, and gets suspended by the team for the 16th game.

Drinks alcohol on a plane to Vegas before the playoffs even start. It should be noted that while banned from drinking, the actual threshold for a positive test is .06 for those who are 'forbidden' from drinking. This, combined with the allowable delay in testing implies that he and his agent were not so honest with how much he drank

On schedule to return in 2016, takes a trip to rehab right before he returns, likely because he would have tested positive for something and going to rehab looks a lot better than that

Three agents have terminated their relationship with Josh, forfeiting the future possibility of hundreds of thousands of dollars in yearly income at standard 3% agent commission. They likely know a little more about the situation than we do.

NFL denies his latest reinstatement request, possibly for the same reason Josh's most recent agent dropped him a few weeks ago. Whatever that reason is.

Goodell's thought process is that Josh is a complete moron, as is anybody who is counting on him to help the team or who is under the impression that Josh's situation is anybody's fault but his own. Actually that is my thought process but I'm pretty sure Goodell's is not too much different, even if he would be far more tactful.

Goodell and the NFL will set the terms for Josh's return and if Josh doesn't follow those terms exactly, then he won't play. I doubt the Commissioner spends much time worrying about it.

All this was off the top of my head by the way. Feel free to add any incidents that I missed.

But still you get "give him another chance" haha. Beats me, this dude is a straight loser and it, to me, is about as clear as clear can get.

I would rather the Browns just cut him. I wish him well but at a certain point, enough is enough. The upside is that there's a tiny chance he stays clean AND reverts back to the player he was four years ago, neither of which is likely to happen.

The downside is constant distraction, it is not fair to the players on the team to have to rely on someone who has shown over and over again he is not reliable, and it sends a horrible message to all the young players on the team. "As long as you are unusually tall, fast, and physically dominant, the rules don't apply to you-- you can screw up constantly and we will welcome you back with open arms."

As long as Gordon is suspended, he can not be cut, as per the Labor Agreement. He does not count against the roster #s or any other league/team requirements. In other words, the Browns hold his rights and can not release him until the league reinstates him.

This is the likely scenario. See if he can stay clean this summer and inform him in August that he starts with a 4 game ban or wahtever

No. I just think his life is a mess.

You're a good guy, Ted.

Has anyone wondered if he's not 'dropping the ball' intentionally just so we'll release him so he can sign somewhere else-just cause we're Cleveland?

I agree with this... That was one of my first thoughts... I personally feel you either need to tell him he can be reinstated or he will never be.... What is the point of another 3-4 months of waiting... What does he have to do in those 3-4 months to sway the NFL either way?

If he had stayed clean, he would have already signed his 2nd deal, maybe even with his "preferred" team, and would have cashed in a big way. (at least if he had remained on the production path he was on)