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Browns acquired S Calvin Pryor from the Jets in exchange for LB Demario Davis.
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I knew Pryor was on the trade block.

Seems like a good move to me.

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we must have seen no use for Davis


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With the drafting of Jamaal Adams, I expect this made Pryor superfluous. How does this acquisition potentially impact the way Peppers will be utilized (or does it)?

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Does anyone know why he fell out of favor w/the Jets? Here is a recent article about him w/the Jets:

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Jets' Calvin Pryor goes from first round to third string for a day, perhaps longer

Rich CiminiESPN Staff Writer



FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- Safety Calvin Pryor practiced with the third-team defense on Tuesday, another not-so-subtle indication the former first-round pick might not figure into the New York Jets' plans for the season.

Pryor worked on the far field, with the third- and fourth-stringers, while rookie safeties Jamal Adams and Marcus Maye practiced with the starters on the near field. When the full squad came together on one field, Pryor spent most of the time on the sideline, sitting on his helmet.

Coach Todd Bowles insisted it wasn't a sign that Pryor has been demoted.

"No, it's a sign that we're moving guys around on both fields, trying to get acclimated a little bit," said Bowles, claiming it's part of a daily rotation.

Here's my take: If it looks like a demotion and smells like a demotion, it's a demotion.

Officially, Pryor hasn't lost his starting job, but his absence with the regular defense confirms he's not guaranteed a roster spot. Even Bowles acknowledged that certain players -- i.e. established starters -- don't change fields. Both safety spots are open, and it's quite obvious that Adams and Maye -- the Jets' first two 2017 draft picks -- are the preferred candidates.

Pryor declined to comment when reporters approached his locker. This was the second voluntary practice open to the media; he skipped the first one last week.

This has to be a jolt for Pryor, the 18th overall pick in 2014. Not only did the Jets draft two safeties, but they declined the fifth-year option on Pryor's contract, making him a free agent in 2018. He's not part of their long-term plans. The only question now is whether they will keep him around this season. They tried to trade him during the draft.

Ultimately, that decision could be determined by their comfort level with Adams and Maye. It's hard to start two rookies at safety, a cerebral position. Then again, could the secondary play any worse than it did last year?

The Jets added another safety last week, signing veteran Corey White. He can play cornerback, too, but he'll start out as a safety, Bowles said.

The big acquisition, of course, is Adams, the sixth overall pick. His veteran teammates love his professionalism and the coaches like what they see on the field. Adams is vocal and exudes intensity.

"We knew he was talented, but he's learning the defense like everybody else," Bowles said. "He makes his mistakes and, as he gets better with reps in practice, we look for him to get better and better and help us."

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They took Adams in the 1st and Marcus Mayes in the 2nd, so no surprise Pryor was traded. Not sure how he fits in here. He played mostly SS for the Jets, but Peppers will be there. I'm guessing this gives us depth and more flexibility with Peppers, and Pryor may get a chance at FS.

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So we added another SS, don't we need a FS?


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FO probably saw it as an opportunity to strengthen a position of weakness with a former first round pick.


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Yeah, he played SS.

What blows my mind is that he was a first round draft choice. I think he was picked in the teens.

Wonder what happened? Anyone have any information why he fell out of favor w/the Jets?

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They took Adams in the 1st and Marcus Mayes in the 2nd, so no surprise Pryor was traded. Not sure how he fits in here. He played mostly SS for the Jets, but Peppers will be there. I'm guessing this gives us depth and more flexibility with Peppers, and Pryor may get a chance at FS.



Thanks. This is what I was getting in my question in my post above...


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18th iirc

Never lived up to that draft position. Usually rated like the 30th best.

Maybe a change of scenery will help


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The guy was a 1st round pick a few years back... Doesn't mean much, Justin Gilbert was a first a couple of years ago also..

We'll see if it helps or not, but clearly we didn't need Davis anymore and that probably makes it a win win for both teams and players. So we'll see.


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Jets give up on Calvin Pryor in trade that brings back linebacker

By Brian Costello June 1, 2017

The Jets dumped former first-round pick Calvin Pryor on Thursday, trading the safety to the Browns for former Jets linebacker Demario Davis, according to sources.

Pryor, the team’s first-round pick in 2014, had clearly fallen out of favor with the current Jets regime. The Jets drafted safeties Jamal Adams and Marcus Maye in the first two rounds of this year’s draft. They then declined to pick up the 2018 option on Pryor’s contract. During Tuesday’s OTA practice that was open to the media, Pryor worked with the third-team defense.

Davis returns to the Jets after spending the first four years of his career with the team. The Jets selected him in the third round of the 2012 draft and he became a starting inside linebacker in his second season. Davis left as a free agent after the 2015 season, signing a two-year, $8 million deal with Cleveland.

It will be interesting to see what coach Todd Bowles has planned for Davis. The team has veteran David Harris and 2016 first-round pick Darron Lee at the position.

Pryor had one good season with the Jets. He had his two career interceptions in 2015, his second season and first with Bowles. But he regressed last year and was a big part of the team’s struggles in the secondary.

“Calvin is a young-experienced safety that has upside,” Browns de facto GM Sashi Brown said in a statement. “We are pleased to be able to add him to our defensive back room and just like every player we acquire, we expect him to come in with a hard-working mindset ready to compete.”

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Just asking questions out loud.
Does Peppers and Pryor allow Greg Williams to use them in his scheme similar to Barron and TJ McDonald when he was in LA?

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SS room starting to get crowded now.

Anyone watch him enough to know if he could play FS?

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Pretty smart move. Davis wasn't going to make the team. Pryor, although not good, is still an upgrade over the guys we have on the team. Pryor even makes less money than Davis would have made if he didn't get cut.

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Didn't he play FS at Louisville? Maybe we move him over? I don't know, I haven't followed him much in the NFL


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Didn't he play FS at Louisville? Maybe we move him over? I don't know, I haven't followed him much in the NFL


It sounds like he was pretty terrible last year.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-jets-decline-fifth-year-option-on-safety-calvin-pryor/

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I believe he was a FS in college (Louisville) and he started out there with the Jets his rookie year but injuries and roster changes forced him to be moved to SS.


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Didn't he play FS at Louisville? Maybe we move him over? I don't know, I haven't followed him much in the NFL


It sounds like he was pretty terrible last year.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-jets-decline-fifth-year-option-on-safety-calvin-pryor/


Maybe he's this year's version of Pittsburgh's flyer on Gilbert, but slighty better. His has a name most of us recognize but he could be gone as quickly as he came.


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How many years does Pryor have left on his contract? (and I assume his contract stays in place $ wise)


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See, I promised people that Pryor would be on our roster in 2017. Ye of little faith.


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
How many years does Pryor have left on his contract? (and I assume his contract stays in place $ wise)


He is in a contract year.


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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
How many years does Pryor have left on his contract? (and I assume his contract stays in place $ wise)


He is under contract for 2017. The Jets declined his fifth year option earlier in the off-season.

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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
How many years does Pryor have left on his contract? (and I assume his contract stays in place $ wise)


Roto says he's a free agent in 2018.

I actually think I'd rather have kept Davis.

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j/c:

Some of the twitter responses to this trade are pretty funny. One called Sashi Brown Kevin Coster from the movie Draft Day.....

Signed Davis as a free agent, then traded him back to his former team for a younger guy, cheaper contract, and former first round pick.


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Originally Posted By: Dawg_LB
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How many years does Pryor have left on his contract? (and I assume his contract stays in place $ wise)


Roto says he's a free agent in 2018.

I actually think I'd rather have kept Davis.


I don't think Davis was going to make the team.

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How many years does Pryor have left on his contract? (and I assume his contract stays in place $ wise)


Roto says he's a free agent in 2018.

I actually think I'd rather have kept Davis.


I don't think Davis was going to make the team.


Nor did I, but I value his run support over Pryor.

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How many years does Pryor have left on his contract? (and I assume his contract stays in place $ wise)


Roto says he's a free agent in 2018.

I actually think I'd rather have kept Davis.


I don't think Davis was going to make the team.


Nor did I, but I value his run support over Pryor.



Right, but if he wasn't going to make the team, then it doesn't matter what run support he offered. Pryor is at least a wildcard.

(Also, even if Davis did make the team, he probably plays 10% of the snaps at best.)

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Theres only two ways this really makes sense to me...

1. Pryor moves back to his college position of FS

2. All of the talk here that Williams is going to run a 4-2-5 nickel is as a base is correct - reducing our need for LBs and upping our need for defensive backs.

I think the trade is more or less a fair one. Davis was a steady, if unspectacular, player. I really liked Pryor when he came out but he's clearly not what the Jets wanted. I'd say the Jets are crazy for starting two rookie safeties but lucky for them, one of them is Jamal Adams who I think is probably going to be the best safety in the league inside of three years.

Next domino to fall will be who stays between Ibhriam Campbell and Derrick Kindred.

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
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How many years does Pryor have left on his contract? (and I assume his contract stays in place $ wise)


Roto says he's a free agent in 2018.

I actually think I'd rather have kept Davis.


I don't think Davis was going to make the team.


I think Davis would make the team and likely would be penciled in as a starter in a 4-3 alignment. Who besides Kirksey and Collins do we have that's better at LB?

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Calvin Pryor is in the last year of his rookie contract and will be a free agent next season.

Davis was in the last year of his 2yr/$8 mill contract.



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How many years does Pryor have left on his contract? (and I assume his contract stays in place $ wise)


Roto says he's a free agent in 2018.

I actually think I'd rather have kept Davis.


I don't think Davis was going to make the team.


I think Davis would make the team and likely would be penciled in as a starter in a 4-3 alignment. Who besides Kirksey and Collins do we have that's better at LB?


How many times will people have to say it?

We are not a 4-3 team. We will be playing two linebackers most of the time. The third linebacker is irrelevant and a backup. Davis' position in our current defense is obsolete.

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I would think that Alexander would be the next man up, but who knows they may also like one of our UDFA LB.

I thought that Davis might get cut anyways, so now we have another option at Safety.


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I don't think Pryor's spot is solidified yet, either. We have a lot of players slated likely more towards SS, so if that's all he brings to the table - he'll be fighting for a spot in what appears to be a decently crowded room.

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We have Cam Johnson. I would think that, as folks are suggesting, in the nickle defense with two linebackers we would go with Kirksey and Collins. If we played three line backers wouldn't Kirksey play inside with Collins and Johnson on the outsides?

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I think this means we'll run a 4-2-5 with Peppers in the slot and Pryor at SS fairly often. Maybe even use it as our "base D". According to the PFF grades that were linked, he was average his 1st two years, which for us would be an improvement from last year at SS. I'll have to see them on the field, but that's where I think they are looking at going with this move.


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How many years does Pryor have left on his contract? (and I assume his contract stays in place $ wise)


Roto says he's a free agent in 2018.

I actually think I'd rather have kept Davis.


I don't think Davis was going to make the team.


I think Davis would make the team and likely would be penciled in as a starter in a 4-3 alignment. Who besides Kirksey and Collins do we have that's better at LB?


How many times will people have to say it?

We are not a 4-3 team. We will be playing two linebackers most of the time. The third linebacker is irrelevant and a backup. Davis' position in our current defense is obsolete.


People will have to say it a million times. Gregg Williams can say it just once. I like facts...not conjecture.

If you look at my earlier post, I acknowledged that this move makes sense if we are in fact running nickel a majority of the time. So yes, consider me a believer.

However, I still think there's a philosophical distinction between what one would consider a 3-4 or a 4-3 and that Williams lies on the 4-3 side of the fence.

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