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I think that the Browns have quite a few WRs they really like; Coleman, Britt, Higgins, Louis, and Hall, for starters. I think that they want to give their 2nd year guys a chance to win jobs this year.

The Browns had some OTA video on their site, and Louis showed really solid hands. It was almost a highlight reel for him. He also made a couple of strong 1 hand catches. I think that we'll see a lot of 2 TE from the Browns this year, with Njoku ans DeValve

It's pretty apparent the Browns like these guys. Whether or not they are right is up for debate. Louis has always struggled w/his hands. Highlight reels don't always tell the story.

You're right, but he sure looks confident in his ability to catch the ball, and that hasn't always been the case for him in Cleveland. How he has to do it against the best other teams have to offer. It's encouraging, but not settled.

Fair enough.

Everyone loves louis in practice but he would be the first guy that ever learned to catch after becoming a pro. I cant think of a single one that learned to catch after really not being able to catch anything in college.

Yeah, by the time you get to the NFL..........I don't think you are going to "learn how to catch," "significantly improve arm strength," "become a great tackler," etc

As YTBF said, I think we are pretty commited to giving the 2nd year guys a chance. That doesn't mean I wouldn't make a run at Macklin, but I have cooled on that a bit in the last day or so.

He is nearing the No-no age for this FO, he is headed back after a injury season, and his numbers dropped. None of that points to they type of player we have been signing the last year or two.

I think Hue will also be creative with how Seth DeValve will be used. Perhaps some slot WR action? I'd add him to the group of second year "receivers" as well.

I see a 2 TE set with Devale and Njoju as our base O. I see a lot of mismatch opportunities and it opening up the running game.

The are going to have to pull a backer with that line-up if they expect to cover both of those guys. That or not cover the deep part of the field by using a safety to cover one of them.

I think we might have a fairly explosive O this season if the trigger can be half way decent.

Forgot about Hall. He's someone who I've heard they like too. It's just such an unproven group.

No doubt you're right, and this year will tell a tale. Njoku was certainly brought in as a pass catching threat. Louis has the size but has questionable hands, and his route running and ability to separate are questionable. Maybe time with Saunders can improve his route running, but his hands could still be a big question mark. Higgins runs good routes, but has a tiny frame. He may have similar issues as Coleman, in that he could wear down over the season. Ditto Hall.

Projecting forward, when you look at team needs, my guess is that we come out of the season with WR as one of the teams biggest needs. Right now, with Coleman as our "#1" and a HUGE question mark, I'd expect to see them go after a Sutton, Ridley, or even St. Brown or Auden Tate to add some size to that room. They may want to develop their picks, but IMHO, they'll end the season with the WR issue largely unresolved.

I think our offense is going to be at--or very close to--the bottom of the league, just like we usually are.

We were 30th in yards and 31st in points per game. We lost our best skilled player and maybe got worse at qb. We could have a better center if he can stay healthy and improved some at guard.

A lot of things are going to have to go right just to score a TD. I think it's going to be another long year.

Agreed. I expect defenses to try to contain Njoku and take away the run. Then what do you have? Our receivers one on one with the corners? Not a huge advantage.

Could be.

I only say what i say because I keep reading about Hue being sorry we didn't run more.

We made improvements to the line which should help. I see 2 TE sets as a way to possibly get guys out of the box. I agree that will only work if we can in fact get the ball to them when we don't run. It also means that one of the wide outs is going to have to be able to take advantage of a 1 on 1 match-up.

I think we have a chance of doing that, but I also agree you could be closer to the reality than I.

As an offensive coordinator, I think you have to be happy if you get to the point where your WR's are consistently one on one with a DB. If you can't design plays to make that work then you either have the world's worst WR's or the world's worst OC. I don't think our WR's scream out as a strength by any means - but I don't think they are that bad either. But the more I think on it the more I think Maclin makes a lot of sense for the Browns. He's a high quality WR - route running, ethics, hard working .... and at 29 he's probably got 2 or 3 good years back (if healthy). If a SB / Playoff team doesn't come knocking at his door - then I think we are as viable as most teams.

How old is Britt? I thought he was 28 or 29. We gave him pretty good money. And Maclin is a better WR than Britt.

I think you under value Devalve.

Devalve had 10 catches in 12 games for 127 yards last year.

Let me guess. You interpreted my post as a personal attack against you and if I respond, you will say I started it?

I agree - but the injury is the ??? factor with Maclin. And KC are a good team who will expect to go to the playoffs. When good teams jettison good players its a red flag. I'm never in favor of burning cap space just because we have it - but with the space we have the WR's we have and the work ethic and professionalism Maclin could bring - I am 100% on board with signing him.

As for Britt - I like Pryor a lot. Wish we still had him - but I do not think Britt is a bum. I think he's at least a genuine #2. Maybe a bit better than that.

As for our offense -- I expect it to be much better next year. I disagree that the QB situation could be worse than having 4 QB's start - having a rookie thrown in week 3 with no reps with the 1st team. Assuming Cody hasn't progressed an iota physically - just the reps and experience make him better ... or maybe more accurately more prepared which translates to better production.

RT is a ??? - but the line is at least 30-40% better in my opinion - it's improved by significantly more than just the sum of it's parts. And while RT is ???? until they take the field I think Coleman is going to 'break out' and own that spot for the season.

I understand the question about DeValve - but I think Njoku looks like a beast. He's got to be able to consistently catch and make plays.... and that is another ????. But honestly I don't believe he will perform worse than Barnidge last year - 55 rec 2 TD.

But at this point with so many ??? it is speculation.... other than saying adding a healthy Maclin would make this year's Browns a better team.

Logical.

And this is the summary of why I'm pretty concerned here regarding our WR unit.

Exactly as questioned, take away the run potential and David - what do you have?

Thing is, I don't know if they're the worst or not. The sample size is too small, and we don't even know what the QB play looks like. I'd like to sign Macklin, I just don't think the FO will make the leap. Of course, it's JMHO.

Peen, I don't undervalue Devalve, again, the sample size is too small. Regardless, IMO, we need two viable threats on the outside to allow the O to run with all options available. I'm not sure we have even one right now.

Jeremy Maclin - WR - Free Agent

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports Jeremy Maclin is visiting the Bills on Tuesday.
Schefter adds "plans (are) being made" for Maclin to visit the Ravens on Wednesday with the Browns and Eagles also reportedly interested, but that assumes he gets out of Buffalo without a deal. Both LeSean McCoy and Tyrod Taylor have recruited Maclin while Sammy Watkins (foot) and Zay Jones (knee) are dealing with injuries. Even coming off a career-worst campaign, Maclin would represent a massive upgrade to Buffalo's depth chart.

Related: Ravens, Bills, Browns, Eagles

Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter Jun 6 - 8:30 AM

At least we're "interested".

Yeah, kudos for our staff for least releasing it's a weak spot... IMO I don't think he leaves Buffalo without a contract today.

You're probably right.

Or the agent(s) threw out teams that makes sense based on need to drive his clients' market value up. Then the press ran with it.

Not saying the Browns are not interested, but you never know where this information is coming from.

I doubt he signs here too. We may be able to pick up a vet or 2 when cuts start if our staff feels we don't have enough talent at the position. Like I've said, hopefully our young guys step up in TC.

I think a lot will depend on how efficiently and effectively they run the football. IMO, teams will continue crowding the box until this offense forces otherwise. It is obvious Hue/Sashi are not fortifying the passing game. Money spent enhancing the OL. Running backs are more experienced so play must come from this group.

I have a strong feeling our receiver corps could change drastically following cut day.

j/c

Isn't there a waiting period after KC released Maclin? Unsure of the time period but I believe teams could not talk to Maclin otherwise it is tampering. I am not sure players convincing other players falls into the rule or not.

I am interested seeing where Maclin signs. He stands to make some coin. Does he chose championship play instead?

soon as he signed his release papers he is free to talk to whomever he choses, he doesn't have to clear waivers or anything as he is a veteran.

Which was 4pm EST time yesterday (Monday.)

I'm not sure who the "we" is included in your statement. If there's one thing I've learned over the past 18 years it's to be very cautious about taking anything seriously the people trying to sell tickets have to say.

Browns reportedly have “expressed some interest” in WR Jeremy Maclin

The recently-released receiver could be looking at Cleveland after visits to Buffalo and Baltimore.

The Cleveland Plain Dealer reports the Browns have "inquired" on free agent Jeremy Maclin and done their "due diligence."

ESPN's Adam Schefter reported Tuesday morning that Maclin could make a visit to Cleveland. When asked about the team's reported interest, coach Hue Jackson said "that's a good thing." The Browns have intriguing pieces at wideout, but no proven depth behind new No. 1 Kenny Britt.Related: Browns

Source: Cleveland Plain Dealer Jun 6 - 3:28 PM

Sashi and company should at the very least do their "due diligence" and etc.

Love that Schefter is reporting it too, you can actually maybe buy into the story a little.