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You don't see anyone condoning their actions on the right like the liberal politicians and media condone the actions of the groups I mentioned above.

have they?

how is occupy wallstreet a hate group?
how is BLM a hate group?
i honestly never looked up antifa until you said something about it, so when i did, the intel says they are opposed to anti-fascist ideology.

well, the only person and group that acts like fascist right now seems to be Trump and his supporters.

but since we're talking about hate groups, let's go down the line of YOUR ideology, shall we?

Neo nazi's
KKK
The black Legion
Tea Party
Alt-right
Stormfront

you want to talk individuals? where there's a few i can name, including the abortion clinic shooter, something by the way you never condemned or commented on. or pizzagate, or the idiot that shot two hindu dudes.

but i'll just name the one guy everyone here knows:

Timothy McVeigh.

radical right wing conservative loser, who is known to all as the guy being responsible for the BIGGEST DOMESTIC TERRORIST ACT IN US HISTORY.

so if you really wanna point fingers, Day, you better be willing to point them at your own ideology.

cause your ideology damn near has a MONOPOLY on political violence and/or hate groups, especially when it comes to mass murder and blaming others.

don't throw stones if you live in a glass house.

another lie.

nobody is condoning this act of violence. stop making things up.

Again, no one on the right condones their actions. No one. Except the tea party. I am confused why they were included. They had peaceful protests. No violence. All of the groups I mentioned chant hate chants condoning the murder of police, bankers, or anyone that supports free speech in America. Then they are backed by liberal politicians and the national media who condones their actions.

again, another lie.

the tea party was marching in the streets calling obama a kenyan muslim, demanding a birth certificate. conservatives were calling michelle an ape, monkey, all kind of derogatory names.

man dude you're such a fraud. you're on par with Diam. nothing but lies coming out of your mouth.

not only did conservatives condone it, the put the ring leader in the OVAL OFFICE.

RW fringe groups do not compare to...

Madonna– “I’ve thought a lot about blowing up the White House.”

Kathy Griffin ‘Beheads’ Trump in Graphic Photo

Snoop Dogg “Shoots” Trump in the Head in Music Video

Robert De Niro: “I’d Like to Punch Him in the Face”

Shakespeare in the Park Stabs ‘Trump’ to Death in Performance of ‘Julius Caesar’

David Simon: “Pick Up a damn Brick” if Trump Fires Robert Mueller

Mickey Rourke Threatens to Beat Trump with Baseball Bat

Actress Lea DeLaria Threatens to ‘Take Out’ Republicans and Independents with Baseball Bat after Trump Win

Marilyn Manson Kills ‘Trump’ in Music Video

Larry Wilmore Jokes About Suffocating Trump with ‘Pillow They Used to Kill Scalia’

Stephen Colbert’s Late Show Puts Stephen Miller’s Head on a Spike

Sarah Silverman Suggests Military Could Help Overthrow Trump

Ted nugent
Alex Jones
Sean Hannity
Rush Limbaugh
Glenn beck
that annoying ass chick with the dolphin voice, Tomi Lahren

if you want to play this stupid ass game, then we can play it.

it's funny how us liberals on this board readily admits and condemns these idiots that do things who are liberals, but you conservatives will never condemn your own people, or you just deflect.

having a freaking standard. cause right now all i see is multiple posters with no backbone to stand up to what's right or wrong.

im done with this nonsense. i already schooled you and Day with your BS. don't stay up too late looking at infowars.

Foolish.

Only Ted talked of violence against a sitting President.

I could list tv, music and movie stars that our children look up to, not to mention the PROVEN Facts of leaking FBI, NSA and CIA folks.

#TrueColors

j/c

Finally, some good news in this ongoing story...

Hospital says Scalise showing 'signs of improvement' after additional surgery
By REBECCA MORIN 06/17/2017 06:23 PM EDT

Majority Whip Steve Scalise is showing "signs of improvement" and is "speaking with his loved ones" following an additional surgery, according to an update provided by MedStar Washington Hospital Center on Saturday.

The hospital also upgraded his condition from critical to serious.

"Congressman Steve Scalise is in serious condition. He underwent another surgery today, but continues to show signs of improvement," according to a statement from the hospital, courtesy of the Scalise family. "He is more responsive, and is speaking with his loved ones. The Scalise family greatly appreciates the outpouring of thoughts and prayers."

Scalise was shot Wednesday morning during a congressional baseball practice by a gunman who opened fire, injuring multiple people before being shot himself. The attacker, James Hodgkinson, later died.

The director of trauma at MedStar, Dr. Jack Sava, told reporters Friday that Scalise was in “imminent risk of death” after he was shot but his condition had improved.

The "risk of death right now is substantially lower than when he came in,” Sava said, adding that the majority whip will remain in the hospital for a conservable amount of time.

The bullet that wounded Scalise entered his left hip, fragmented and caused ““substantial damage to bones, internal organs and blood vessels,” Sava told reporters.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/17/scalise-in-serious-condition-239670

Bill Maher said Ted actually came out against the rhetoric after this last incident and said he was wrong talking that way and wouldn't be doing it anymore.

Let me get this straight. The Malibu pulls up NEXT to the pickup. He then fired SEVERAL shots, yet nobody was injured. SMH

How hard can it be to find a tated up, light skinned black male who must also be blind and have severe Parkinson's disease, or essential tremor disorder to miss from that close.

I don't know GM, maybe we can get DIAM to discuss ALL hate crimes and not just the ones that align with his political views. Wouldn't a real discussion and debate over hate crimes 'in general' be a much better topic for debate? I'm sure I could do a quick google search on crimes against liberals and engage in some more pointless what-about-isms, but I just don't see the point.

And GM, I really do respect your point of view on things in this forum. You have been a real inspiration in the way you are dealing with your personal health issues and the light you look at many of these topics in. I've began to see how unimportant many of these things are in the grand scheme based on some of your posts. Life is too short to be cluttered with so many meaningless distractions and minutia, something I've known since my first heart attack yet needed to be reminded of in this highly charged political time. Thank you for that.

My pleasure bro. We can all discuss things from different views while still keeping things light, joking around, and respecting each other.

Even Liberals Are Worried About Liberal Extremism

Experts on extremism are increasingly shifting their focus from right-wing extremism to what they see as a rise of violence on the left, according to a new report.

"The past few months have seen enough of a rise in politically motivated violence from the far left that monitors of right-wing extremism have begun shifting their focus, and sounding the alarm," a report on Vice.com said.

Liberal violence has seen an uptick since President Trump was elected.
The subject of left-wing violence reared its head last week after a Bernie Sanders supporter opened fire on congressional Republicans playing baseball last Wednesday, injuring five including House Majority Whip Steve Scalise (R-La.).

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/06/18/liberals-worried-liberal-extremism-experts-vice

j/c

Finally, some good news in all of this....

Hospital says Scalise showing 'signs of improvement' after additional surgery

Majority Whip Steve Scalise is showing "signs of improvement" and is "speaking with his loved ones" following an additional surgery, according to an update provided by MedStar Washington Hospital Center on Saturday.

The hospital also upgraded his condition from critical to serious.

"Congressman Steve Scalise is in serious condition. He underwent another surgery today, but continues to show signs of improvement," according to a statement from the hospital, courtesy of the Scalise family. "He is more responsive, and is speaking with his loved ones. The Scalise family greatly appreciates the outpouring of thoughts and prayers."

Scalise was shot Wednesday morning during a congressional baseball practice by a gunman who opened fire, injuring multiple people before being shot himself. The attacker, James Hodgkinson, later died.

The director of trauma at MedStar, Dr. Jack Sava, told reporters Friday that Scalise was in “imminent risk of death” after he was shot but his condition had improved.

The "risk of death right now is substantially lower than when he came in,” Sava said, adding that the majority whip will remain in the hospital for a conservable amount of time.

The bullet that wounded Scalise entered his left hip, fragmented and caused ““substantial damage to bones, internal organs and blood vessels,” Sava told reporters.

Caitlyn Jenner on the shooting at congressional baseball practice: ‘Liberals can’t even shoot straight’

While members of Congress have called for bipartisanship following the shooting last week when a gunman opened fire on a GOP congressional baseball practice, at least some people are going political — including Caitlyn Jenner.

The reality TV star’s Republican leanings were on full display during a talk she gave Friday at the College Republican National Committee’s convention, according to a video posted on the College Republican Federation of Virginia’s Facebook page.

Jenner got laughs and applause from the crowd for her quip about the shooter, who was identified as a supporter of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.). “Fortunately, the guy was a really bad shot — liberals can’t even shoot straight,” she said.

Jenner expressed sympathy for the victims, including Rep. Steve Scalise (R-La.), whose condition was upgraded from “critical” to “serious” Saturday at a Washington hospital. “First of all, nobody deserves what happened out there,” Jenner said. “There’s no justification. There are crazy people in the world. We have to minimize that type of stuff.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/reli...shoot-straight/

Caitlyn's remarks were at best in poor taste and totally classless. I found the joke disgusting myself. So glad she/he is a Trumpian with the GOP.

Conservatives love Caitlyn as their spokeswomen and spokesman. It's a buy one get one free. Such a deal.

This is news to me. I didn't even know Jenner was a conservative until today.

I agree... but nobody seems willing to change and we have very short memories.

Really....Seems like every time you reply to posts here you didn't know this or that or wasn't paying too much attention to this or that or wasn't following politics during the election cycle too much or whatever. But you still feel the need to debate those subjects. What's up with that?

He would be better off replying like you often do with this...

The fact that you keep bringing this up is profoundly odd.

I spent a considerable amount of time following politics during this past election cycle, and continue to follow things, albeit not as closely as I did last summer.

What you're referring to (or what I assume you are referring to, because you have brought it up many times) is how you feel Hillary Clinton was treated unfairly in the investigations following the 2012 Benghazi attack. Maybe so. As I said many times, I did not follow politics as closely back then. People like you would try to grill me on Benghazi, even though I don't think I ever even brought it up!

I had other reasons for not liking Hillary, from her being a war hawk with bad judgement, to having disagreeable policy positions (some of the worst of Republicans and Democrats combined) that I never really felt the need to bring up Benghazi. She was involved in other scandals that were more at the forefront at the time.

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About Jenner: I don't really care what the Jenners or Kardashians are up to, or other celebrities for that matter, so I'm not sure why you'd expect me to know their political opinions.

The burden of proof is on you. You say that "conservatives love Caitlyn as their spokeswomen and spokesman. It's a buy one get one free. Such a deal." - whatever that means. Please share with us all these conservatives who love her as a spokesperson. Show us all this right-wing media that props up her opinion.

Considering the reply he offered with the typical Hillary distractions....true.

You have somehow used my disinterest/lack of knowledge about Benghazi as some kind of evidence that I don't debate in good faith. You've probably done this ten times in the past, so when you make some thinly-veiled reference to that, I think it is reasonable to set the record straight.

Maybe you were talking about something else? I'll admit that I've missed some of the more recent details on the Russian accusations-- although interestingly, I have spent a considerable amount of time researching that topic. It's just that after a year of people throwing mud with startlingly little evidence, my interest in that has dropped considerably.

Haus usually tries to engage in a knowledgeable way. If he doesn't know about something, he says so. If he wants to know more, he asks. I see nothing wrong with that.

Well Rep. Steve Scalise is now out of intensive care and doing well.

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Nebraska Democrat: I'm Glad Scalise Got Shot

A Nebraska Democratic Party official was caught on tape saying he was glad Republican Congressman Steve Scalise got shot.

"i'm glad he got shot," Phil Montag said. "I wish he was (expletive) dead."

Fox 42 in Omaha reports Mr. Montag has been removed from his volunteer position in technology with the state party after the recording was made public.

A week ago another Nebraska state Democratic leader had to resign - after she made terrible comments about the shooting.

"Watching the congressman crying on live tv abt the trauma they experienced. Y is this so funny tho," Chelsey Gentry-Tipton wrote on Facebook. She chairs the state party's black caucus. "Hard to be empathetic towards those that have no empathy for us. The very people that push pro-NRA legislation in efforts to pad their pockets with complete disregard for human life. yeah, having a hard time feeling bad for them."

Nebraska Democratic Party chairwoman Jane Kleeb denounced the hateful rhetoric -- well, sort of.

"The Democratic party nationwide doesn't stand for violent rhetoric whether it be from the far right or far left," she said. "We have a serious problem in our country right now…[I]t is disgusting and we have to find a way as leaders, both as Republicans and Democrats, to work shoulder to shoulder and stop this rhetoric that's damaging politics."

Ms. Kleeb is trying to paint this as a Republican and Democrat problem, but it's not. It's a Democrat problem.

Democrats have been spewing hateful rhetoric against President Trump and Republicans since before the presidential election. Their minions have bullied and bloodied conservatives from coast to coast. And an untold number of Democratic celebrities have publicly fantasized about killing the president.

Democrats are not only guilty of fomenting hatred, but they are also guilty of endorsing it and promoting it.

I call on the Democratic National Committee to implement mandatory anger management classes for all their members.

They need to learn how to behave like civilized members of society -- instead of a bunch of far-left political hacks.

http://www.toddstarnes.com/column/nebraska-democrat-im-glad-scalise-got-shot

This is a non-story. Some guy working as a volunteer said something... blah blah blah Just an article/story designed to vilify dems 40, nothing more.

I don't think it's a "non-story." It shows the mindset of people who are so freaking warped in their thinking that they condone shooting and killing people who don't share the same political beliefs as they do.

Those kind of people exist on both sides and they illustrate just how whacked many can be. That is a story. And burying your head in the sand doesn't change that fact.

While I do agree with you that reporting that some people feel this way is something we all should be aware of, you'll never see this source quoting white supremacists. I think the larger story is that this is a story from a one sided web site that will never give you both sides of a story. But then again most web sites are that way no matter which side they take.

Liberals need to understand: When they show contempt for Trump, they are expressing contempt for the millions of Americans who voted for him — including millions who twice voted for Obama. These Americans felt that the establishments of both parties were ignoring them and wanted to send Washington a message. The response they are receiving could not be clearer: We have contempt for the man you elected, and we have contempt for all of you who put him into office. They will never forget it.

Worst of all, we are in the process of cementing these attitudes in the next generation. On college campuses, students are being taught that it is acceptable to treat with contempt those with different ideas. We saw this phenomenon on display when Charles Murray — a distinguished conservative scholar — was shouted down and assaulted at Middlebury College in a riot that sent a professor to the hospital. Not a single student suffered any real consequences. Similar incidents are taking place on campuses across the country. Young Americans are learning that people they disagree with are not to be listened to respectfully and debated; they are to be silenced and driven out of the public square.

Here is the problem with your thinking there 40, what about the millions who didn't vote for him? There is a much larger number that supported HRC, yet everyday republicans are bashing her like she's even relevant. What about her supporters being slighted? There were 3 million more of them that voted against Trump, remember?

Trump got into office via the electoral college rules, not by popular vote. Obama won the popular vote by a landslide and I don't hear you speaking up for his supporters... As a matter of fact you have no issues with any liberal/dem being bashed at all, that I have ever seen.

So unless this is some kind of snowflake moment I think you should adjust your speech to be more reflective of the facts. The fact is Trump was never popular to the MAJORITY of Americans, and his followers act much like a cult as represented by your comment above. You should be truthful about things 40.

right, like 40 and the rest of his ideology didn't show contempt for obama supporters.

40 literally cheered the tea party on, and he himself called obama a muslim multiple times on the old board, demanding a birth certificate.

40 has zero room to complain about anything.

Nothing was wrong with the peaceful protests of the Tea Party and their call to shut Obama down before he spends another 5 Trillion dollars, running our Country into the ground.

They lost, and Obama spent another 5 for a total of $10 Trillion! A debt our children and grandchildren will have to pay.

Obama was a terrible President who placed the World before American Citizens.

The New President was Barack Hussein Obama, with a Kenyan father who spent part of his childhood in Indonesia and couldn't produce a Birth Certificate for something like 6 months once requested. Something most Americans can do in 6 minutes.
What was there ever to question?

make excuses for you and the rest of your ideologies crap all you want with regards to your blatant bigotry toward obama.

don't complain now that people are giving you a taste of your own medicine.

as far as i'm concerned, trump is a traitor to the USA that i fought for, with him calling for our enemy to hack his political opponent, to supporting American genocide by trying to pass a policy that will affect at least 23 million americans, to selling out every government agencies to big business.

screw trump.

and SHAME on you for supporting him.

No excuses, REASONS and TRUTH!

yea, like pizzagate was the truth
or the birther movement
or obama wire tapped him
or tapes that Comey had
or a swedish terrorist attack on a friday
or the ACA was gonna have people in FEMA camps
RIP to the bowling green massacre
sandy hook being a hoax

or my personal favorite from you believe-everything-you-hear radical right wingers, jade helm.

that news cycle was absolutely HILARIOUS. here we have a bunch of dumbass conservatives who claim they are patriots and know the military, thinking that the military was gonna take over the place, starting with the local walmart lmfao

you want to know why liberals like me hold contempt for you far right/trump supporting conservatives?

because you don't give us any reason NOT to.

now you can take that reason and truth of yours and shove it.

I try very hard not to take a side in the Conservative vs Liberal War. I can see good on both sides and the negatives of both sides.

I do think that the statement I quoted has been at-play here. I can understand they why of it. Resentment can build up after an extended period of hate, ignorance, and biased being shoved down your throat.

However, in the end, who are we really hurting if not ourselves? I read a quote somewhere that went something like this:

The world can use more light and less noise.

I ask: Who among us is willing to bring light to the world instead of the noise of assigning blame to the other side?

Clarification point: I am not pointing out your side, Swish. I just used your quote. I see the finger pointing on both sides. I don't care who is doing it. I just care because I think it debilitating rather than productive.

Trump supporters hold sit-in at North Carolina Starbucks after woman mocked for shirt

Trump supporters flooded a North Carolina Starbucks on Saturday for a sit-in after they said a woman was mocked for wearing T-shirt supporting the president.

The group, wearing some Trump T-shirts and carrying signs, entered the Starbucks on East Boulevard in Dilworth, a neighborhood in Charlotte.

They told Fox 46 Charlotte it was to support Hart, who was reportedly mocked by a barista for wearing some Trump apparel a few days before.

“They shouted out 'build a wall' and shoved a drink at me and then all the baristas in the back started cracking up laughing,” she told Fox 46 Charlotte.

The group called it “unfortunate” and “very heartbreaking.”

“At all cost, we have to rise above any opposition or anybody that treats us poorly. Somebody says something, please ignore it. Don’t engage in it,” Sean Kilbane told Fox 46 Charlotte. “Just be proud to be wearing the Trump attire, pins, stickers, hats that we have, that we live in a great country, that we have the ability to go into this establishment.”

Starbucks issued a statement apologizing to the woman and said they planned to speak with the store, the station reported.

On Saturday, the group said the sit-in was a little tense at the beginning, but as more and more people ordered coffee, the mood lightened.

“I gave them the name Trump and they did. They were very gracious about it,” Shellie Anderson told the station. “We just wanted to reverse the little negativity. So we did it.”

Anderson added: “It’s really good to come together and take something negative and just come in here and be respectful.”

http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/2017/0...-for-shirt.html

sorry bro but they had it coming.

we've had posters right here on this board who have called obama a muslim and been active parts in spreading birther movement propaganda.

and now those very same people will tell us to give Trump a chance?

man screw that. 8 years bro. 8 years of them trying to discredit his accomplishments, discredit him as a christian by calling him muslim, and even discrediting him as a citizen of this country. 8 years of the republican party declaring they would make him a one term president before he even was swore in.

i can go on and on and on.

so look for a "light" somewhere else, cause it won't come from me. conservative sure didn't care about any of that while they did all those things to Obama.

so now they are about to get all of it coming right back to them TENFOLD. and they deserve it. especially with this crap president they decided to elect.

i'll be the bigger person once trump is out of office, along with his blatant nepotism and unqualified department heads. how about that.

See more cult-like activity. If liberals do this they would be interfering with that poor business owners god given right to make a living. They would be crucified in the conservative press, yet this not only gets a pass, it's applauded. More double standards.

Personally I'm fine with this protest but I had to point out the hypocrisy.