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NO.

All those things you listed, except Jewish, are FAKE NEWS!

The Bible is the Way and the Truth and the Life. thumbsup

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Well leave it to you to believe discrimination should be a part of government funding.


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This was a very interesting Supreme Court case.

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The case concerns Trinity Lutheran Church in Columbia, Missouri, which applied for a grant from the Department of Natural Resources to help renovate their preschool's playground.


I enjoyed following posts above and the various ”legal theories”.

On one side Trinity Lutheran has as much right as any to apply for and qualify for the grant.

But on the other side, the possiblity of religious discretion by the government is scary.

Hey I hope we get to debate the same-sex wedding cake “denial” case coming-up in the Supreme Court.

Who will start that thread?


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GOP bill would let churches endorse political candidates

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/house-gop...8--finance.html

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Churches should have the right to endorse political candidates and still keep their tax-free status, say House Republicans targeting a law that prohibits such outright politicking from the pulpit.

Republicans repeatedly have failed to scrap the law preventing churches and other nonprofits from backing candidates, so now they are trying to starve it. With little fanfare, a House Appropriations subcommittee added a provision that would deny money to the IRS to enforce the 63-year-old law to a bill to fund the Treasury Department, Securities and Exchange Commission and other agencies.

The subcommittee passed the bill Thursday.

Republicans say the law is enforced unevenly, leaving religious leaders uncertain about what they are allowed to say and do.

"I believe that churches have a right of free speech and an opportunity to talk about positions and issues that are relevant to their faith," said Rep. Jim Renacci, R-Ohio.

Some Democrats say the measure comes too close to mixing church and state. They say religious leaders already have First Amendment rights, just like anyone else. But if they want to get political, they don't have a constitutional right not to pay taxes.

Some also worry that the measure could upend the system of campaign financing by allowing churches to use their tax-free status to funnel money to political candidates.

Rep. Richard Neal, D-Mass., recalled a speech that former President John F. Kennedy gave to religious leaders when he was running for president.

"He said the pope wouldn't tell him what to do, and the people in that audience shouldn't be telling people on Sunday morning who to vote for," Neal said. "I don't think churches should be endorsing."

Many nonprofit groups want to avoid politics. In April, 4,500 nonprofit groups signed onto a letter to congressional leaders asking them to preserve the law.

The law prohibits tax-exempt charitable organizations such as churches from participating directly or indirectly in any political campaign to support or oppose a candidate. If the IRS determines that a group has violated the law, it can revoke its tax-exempt status.

The law doesn't stop religious groups from weighing in on public policy or organizing in ways that may benefit one side in a campaign.

The bill specifically forbids the IRS from spending money to enforce the law against "a church, or a convention or association of churches," unless the IRS commissioner signs off on it and notifies Congress.

The bill doesn't mention other types of non-profit groups, or even synagogues or mosques, said Nick Little of the Center for Inquiry, which promotes secularism.

"All they care about is the Christian groups, and in particular, it will end up as the extreme religious right Christian groups," Little said. "If this goes through, this would add just another way in which unregulated dark money could be used."

Religious leaders have been weighing in on political issues for generations, whether it's the debate over abortion or advocating for the poor. But periodically, the IRS has stepped in when religious leaders explicitly endorse or oppose candidates.

The law is called the Johnson Amendment after former President Lyndon Johnson, who introduced it in 1954 when he was a Democratic senator from Texas. Johnson was upset because a few nonprofit groups attacked him as a communist in a Senate campaign.

The law was signed by a Republican president — Dwight Eisenhower — but Republicans have been attacking it in recent years.

House Republicans have pledged to repeal the law as part of a tax overhaul. President Donald Trump signed an executive order in May discouraging the IRS from enforcing the law.

Rep. Pat Tiberi, R-Ohio, says the law has been enforced unevenly.

"Some churches, including my own, have been very concerned about appearing political in any way shape or form," Tiberi said. "Churches I went to that were primarily in Democrat areas, that I would go to because I had a Democrat district, the local candidates on the Sunday mornings before the election would be introduced, would speak from the pulpit about the campaign and why the congregation should vote for them."

The full Appropriations Committee will consider the measure after the July 4th congressional recess.


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I can only say one thing to that post...

It is sure nice to have America back! thumbsup

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You didn't finish the word.

'Backwards' is what you were trying to say.


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PICK A LANE PAL!

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
I can only say one thing to that post...

It is sure nice to have America back! thumbsup
Separation of Church and State is in the constitution. I gues 40 is against the constitution and all good with the Russians this week. And I'm the one that get's called a socialist commie.

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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
I can only say one thing to that post...

It is sure nice to have America back! thumbsup
Separation of Church and State is in the constitution. I gues 40 is against the constitution and all good with the Russians this week. And I'm the one that get's called a socialist commie.


Show me the words "Separation of Church and State" from the Constitution and I will give you a Participation Trophy.

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The Constitution sets up the Protection of the Church from the Government and also sets up the Protection of the Government from the Church. However, the two work together for the good of the people. The actual words "Separation of Church and State do not appear in our Constitution.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
The Constitution sets up the Protection of the Church from the Government and also sets up the Protection of the Government from the Church. However, the two work together for the good of the people. The actual words "Separation of Church and State do not appear in our Constitution.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dale-hansen/yes-there-is-a-constituti_b_8171550.html

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I noticed you didn't make a fuss about the Russian connection I mentioned, had to find a nit to pick though didn't ya? wink

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Based on some vids I have seen, even CNN producers know the Russina thing is a non-story, but it pushes the agenda and sucks in viewers with a angry eye.


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Does CNN know anything more about all of the investigations than we do?


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Does CNN know anything more about all of the investigations than we do?


Apparently yes. Their own Producers are on tape admitting it is all BS but you and yours haven't quite picked up on that news yet.

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So you have zero evidence they actually know what's going on inside the closed hearings. Got it.

The people in the press you consistently call liars you now wish to quote because they are saying something you agree with. Got it.


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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
I can only say one thing to that post...

It is sure nice to have America back! thumbsup
Separation of Church and State is in the constitution. I gues 40 is against the constitution and all good with the Russians this week. And I'm the one that get's called a socialist commie.

I don't exactly see how a church formally endorsing a candidate is a violation of the church/state separation but I will make a few comments...

First, if Republicans decide to push this through right now, they might be surprised at the results in a few years.. I know a lot of churches that aren't particularly happy with them or President Trump... also, there a lot of very large black church congregations around... wonder which way they will go...

Second, this could easily tear churches apart.. churches are already very "political" entities with a lot of people vying for influence and control within them.. if you open up the door to allow them to show some "unified" endorsement of a political candidate, I could see that fracturing churches from within...

So, while I don't see this as a big constitutional issue, I do see it as a very bad idea...


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