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Originally Posted By: Swish
The uranium situation has be proven to be one bit nothing burger.

Trump potential collusion into Russia is a CURRENT ACTIVE investigation.

I've notice you trumpians like playing silly games once you run out of excuses to defend your master.


I have watched you Liberals Lynch one person after another with accusations and no proof for years now.
Later, they walk because you were full of it.

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Says the guy who accused obama of being a Muslim.


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING

If you have evidence of wrong doing or collusion, post it.
Lets see who just spews.


You see, this is what you do. I never said anyone was guilty of collusion. That's just something you made up. I said that there were reasons why these investigations are going on. It's because some in the Trump campaign lied about their contacts with the Russians.

You wanted links so I gave you several. Yet you just spew on.

While neither of us knows whether there was collusion or not, I'm willing to admit that. You just keep denying that while you don't know the answer any more than I do.


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You are innocent of spewing your hate. rofl

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Originally Posted By: Swish
Says the guy who accused obama of being a Muslim.


While that's not right... it's not the same as accusing somebody of a crime or a treasons act..


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Quit lying 40. I've never said Trump was guilty of collusion. I know you're desperate at this point but you don't have to make things up. Oh, that's right, you do.


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Says the guy who accused obama of being a Muslim.


While that's not right... it's not the same as accusing somebody of a crime or a treasons act..


According to who, you? He also accused obama of not being an actual citizen of this country, something that's also criminal.

There you go playing which one is worse even though you have previously said it shouldn't matter which is worse.


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Accuse Trump of being a Foreigner and he will provide his Birth Certificate in 6 minutes, not 6 months like Obama! tsktsk

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Your accusations were false. You're a liar. Period.


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You and I neither one know what's going on in the investigations. And you know it.


So, why do some on here already have the guilty verdict finalized?

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Serious question 40....answer honestly....what if the tables were turned and ALL this stuff about Russian meddling, getting cozy with Russia, meetings w/Russians etc. was coming out against Obama or Hillary. Would you be as quick to defend and pardon? OR, would you be calling foul and accusing of treason?


You know the answer to your question.

It's one reason I've been trying - TRYING to stay out of these threads. I've done very well, for the most part, but I do sometimes get baited in.

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You and I neither one know what's going on in the investigations. And you know it.


So, why do some on here already have the guilty verdict finalized?


I really can't answer that one arch. I don't know. All I have stated is that I can understand why these investigations were started. I hope they do a deep investigation and come back with the right answer.

It's my opinion that if collusion were proven it would be a bad thing for our nation and the office of the presidency. So I hope they find nothing.

I have simply pointed out that neither side of this argument knows the answer into what these investigations will show in the end.


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Accuse Trump of being a Foreigner and he will provide his Birth Certificate in 6 minutes, not 6 months like Obama! tsktsk


Shame he wouldn't do the same with his taxes...

I got a little curious this morning and started rolling through some of the moves Trump has made since becoming President.

He's actually done some good things. Whistleblower legislation, establishing the Office of Trade and Manufacturing, simplification of tax code. The renegotiation of trade deals is a bit of a crap shoot and I think it would require substantial research to understand whether it was worthwhile or not. Economically, he's made some positive moves.

He's also made some seriously dicey ones - specifically environmentally (and I'm no tree hugger). Reviewing coal regs like coal has any real place with its existing infrastructure is ridiculous. Elimination of protected spaces. Withdrawing from Paris accord.

Not to mention his xenophobic tendencies....I don't think I need to qualify this with any examples as you are all pretty clearly aware.

Problem is, from this humble foreigner's prospective, is that Trump is creating a protectionist state that will isolate the US from the rest of the world. In this day and age, you can't afford not to think globally. This is not mid 20th century anymore and the world can't go back. Trump seems to think that he can recreate the US of the 1950s and the fact is you simply can't because all of the parameters are completely different.

Trump wants to see "USA Uber Alles" and, sadly, many of his actions really do resemble Germany in the mid to late 30s. I'm not saying he's a facist but the similarities are there...establishing scapegoats, protectionist policies, industrial focus....

I just don't know. The man is frightening....no doubt about it. Its not to say he doesn't have some genuinely good ideas but they are lost within his antics and pushing away of the rest of the world.

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Accuse Trump of being a Foreigner and he will provide his Birth Certificate in 6 minutes, not 6 months like Obama! tsktsk


Shame he wouldn't do the same with his taxes...

I got a little curious this morning and started rolling through some of the moves Trump has made since becoming President.

He's actually done some good things. Whistleblower legislation, establishing the Office of Trade and Manufacturing, simplification of tax code. The renegotiation of trade deals is a bit of a crap shoot and I think it would require substantial research to understand whether it was worthwhile or not. Economically, he's made some positive moves.

He's also made some seriously dicey ones - specifically environmentally (and I'm no tree hugger). Reviewing coal regs like coal has any real place with its existing infrastructure is ridiculous. Elimination of protected spaces. Withdrawing from Paris accord.

Not to mention his xenophobic tendencies....I don't think I need to qualify this with any examples as you are all pretty clearly aware.

Problem is, from this humble foreigner's prospective, is that Trump is creating a protectionist state that will isolate the US from the rest of the world. In this day and age, you can't afford not to think globally. This is not mid 20th century anymore and the world can't go back. Trump seems to think that he can recreate the US of the 1950s and the fact is you simply can't because all of the parameters are completely different.

Trump wants to see "USA Uber Alles" and, sadly, many of his actions really do resemble Germany in the mid to late 30s. I'm not saying he's a facist but the similarities are there...establishing scapegoats, protectionist policies, industrial focus....

I just don't know. The man is frightening....no doubt about it. Its not to say he doesn't have some genuinely good ideas but they are lost within his antics and pushing away of the rest of the world.



You are of course entitled to your opinion but Our President is not required to provide his Income Taxes.

Now back to taking care of Canada's problems as it looks to me like you are becoming England with all its problems, thanks to your leadership. Good luck.

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Not legally required but when every presidential candidate typically does it every election cycle, it can be considered a matter of common practice. But whatev.

I'm not sure what problems you think Canada and England share in the slightest...maybe our insistence of adding a "u" to words like colour and neighbour?

While I'm not the biggest fan of Shiny Pony Trudeau, I'll take him over Trump any day of the week and twice on Tuesdays.

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He's done a lot of great things but thats just my opinion like you stated yours.

A question about xenophobia; he does (or did) business in how many different countries? How does him wanting extreme vetting make him a xenophobe? It's all about safety.

He's not thinking globally? Again, has businesses worldwide. He just wants FAIR Trade.

He amy frighten you but he's a Godsend to me. Again, difference of opinion.

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I still don't see how people can think he's xenophobic. There are 50 majority Muslim nations and he's wanting to restrict travel from 6 of them. The math doesn't add up.


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""We had Hillary Clinton give Russia 20 percent of the uranium in our country. You know what uranium is, right? It's a thing called nuclear weapons and other things. Like lots of things are done with uranium, including some bad things," Trump said during a press conference."


Anyone that sees, or reads, or hears Trump say that should have realized that he's a freaking idiot. The man can't put a coherent sentence together without a speak writer and even then, he's questionable

This Quote tells me he simply doesn't know what he's talking about.

As for those that still believe that Hillary Clinton sold 20% of our uranium to Russia, then you are the problem.


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Originally Posted By: daytnabacker
He's done a lot of great things but thats just my opinion like you stated yours.

A question about xenophobia; he does (or did) business in how many different countries? How does him wanting extreme vetting make him a xenophobe? It's all about safety.

He's not thinking globally? Again, has businesses worldwide. He just wants FAIR Trade.

He amy frighten you but he's a Godsend to me. Again, difference of opinion.


I hear this argument all the time,,, "He did a lot of Great Things".

Really, like what?


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My question to all of these libs seem to require Trumps taxes in which he didn't have to is how did their boy Obama even qualify to run for PRES. of the U.S. without producing one in the first place. He only did some 6 mons. after he was in office and that was a dupltcate

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My question to all of these libs seem to require Trumps taxes in which he didn't have to is how did their boy Obama even qualify to run for PRES. of the U.S. without producing one in the first place. He only did some 6 mons. after he was in office and that was a dupltcate


What?.....Barack Obama and his wife released their tax returns from 2000 to 2006 on his campaign Web site Tuesday March 28th 2008.


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Well, he was born in Kenya, so there's that.

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WHERE does it say Clinton sold uranium to Russia?


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""We had Hillary Clinton give Russia 20 percent of the uranium in our country. You know what uranium is, right? It's a thing called nuclear weapons and other things. Like lots of things are done with uranium, including some bad things," Trump said during a press conference."


Anyone that sees, or reads, or hears Trump say that should have realized that he's a freaking idiot. The man can't put a coherent sentence together without a speak writer and even then, he's questionable

This Quote tells me he simply doesn't know what he's talking about.

As for those that still believe that Hillary Clinton sold 20% of our uranium to Russia, then you are the problem.




I asked who benefited...I didn't say she sold it....sheeeeesh!

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""We had Hillary Clinton give Russia 20 percent of the uranium in our country. You know what uranium is, right? It's a thing called nuclear weapons and other things. Like lots of things are done with uranium, including some bad things," Trump said during a press conference."


Anyone that sees, or reads, or hears Trump say that should have realized that he's a freaking idiot. The man can't put a coherent sentence together without a speak writer and even then, he's questionable

This Quote tells me he simply doesn't know what he's talking about.

As for those that still believe that Hillary Clinton sold 20% of our uranium to Russia, then you are the problem.




I asked who benefited...I didn't say she sold it....sheeeeesh!


And I was talking about the idiot speak from Trump quoted above.....Sheeeeesh!

How in the hell can anyone justify voting for a guy that talks like a 5 year old.


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Originally Posted By: daytnabacker
He's done a lot of great things but thats just my opinion like you stated yours.

A question about xenophobia; he does (or did) business in how many different countries? How does him wanting extreme vetting make him a xenophobe? It's all about safety.

He's not thinking globally? Again, has businesses worldwide. He just wants FAIR Trade.

He amy frighten you but he's a Godsend to me. Again, difference of opinion.


Fair question. My answer would be that as a businessman, he made decision based on the maximization of profit. That mentally does, I think, help him in setting some economic policy based in common sense.

I will disagree with you on the "fair" trade issue. I don't think Trump wants fair trade...he wants America advantaged trade. I don't get the sense that he's willing to "give a little, get a little". He goes in leading with America's strength as a massive market and a "You need us, we don't need you" mentality. And I think that's not just philosophically wrong - but factually wrong. Granted, that's opinion.

RE: his xenophobic tendencies. Sorry...I look at the way the man conducts himself with foreign states and its borderline dismissive. The travel ban, actually, has a degree of logic behind it...it was just done in such a heavy handed way.

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I agree with the heavy handed and we don't need you mentality. Here's the problem I have with people knocking him for it, he's a businessman and negotiator, that's what we elected. People want him to act like a politician when he's not.

I've said in a post that my opinion of him is he's a narcissist and can be a bully at times. (from a business perspective)

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""We had Hillary Clinton give Russia 20 percent of the uranium in our country. You know what uranium is, right? It's a thing called nuclear weapons and other things. Like lots of things are done with uranium, including some bad things," Trump said during a press conference."


Anyone that sees, or reads, or hears Trump say that should have realized that he's a freaking idiot. The man can't put a coherent sentence together without a speak writer and even then, he's questionable

This Quote tells me he simply doesn't know what he's talking about.

As for those that still believe that Hillary Clinton sold 20% of our uranium to Russia, then you are the problem.




I asked who benefited...I didn't say she sold it....sheeeeesh!


And I was talking about the idiot speak from Trump quoted above.....Sheeeeesh!

How in the hell can anyone justify voting for a guy that talks like a 5 year old.


Man people said it was code when referring to Obama as well spoken. Is it also code referring to Trump in the opposite? tongue

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Trump is a negotiator and a negotiator who goes into a deal from a position of weakness has already lost.

He comes in strong, tells the city administrators he needs to build a 40 story building and will settle for nothing less.

He reminds them he will be hiring hundreds of local workers to build that building and he will be using Union labor.

They tell him 40 stories is to many but they could allow 30. He rants, he raves, he threatens to build in another city.

In the end they talk Trump down to 35 stories and the deal is done.

What no one knows but Trump and his people is he really only wanted 25 stories but nailed the deal at 35.

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You forgot how he can leap tall buildings in a single bound.


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I agree with you 100%. He is, with all his faults, exactly what America has wanted.

Whether or not his approach will give the electorate what they want... we've got another 3.5 years to find out.

At least it gives the comics something to work with. rofl

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The Truth? Dude, your hero often disses and discredits the NYTimes for being part of the #FakeNews Brigade. So, you are saying it prints "truth" when criticizing the Clintons but, it is all bogus with anything that criticizes the Trumpster?

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The Truth? Dude, your hero often disses and discredits the NYTimes for being part of the #FakeNews Brigade. So, you are saying it prints "truth" when criticizing the Clintons but, it is all bogus with anything that criticizes the Trumpster?


No. I say they printed the truth when they print the truth and I call Fake News when they print lies and half truths.

Look up the number stories they have had to retract because they were unsubstantiated, false or wrong.

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You forgot how he can leap tall buildings in a single bound.


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Trump is a negotiator and a negotiator who goes into a deal from a position of weakness has already lost.

He comes in strong, tells the city administrators he needs to build a 40 story building and will settle for nothing less.

He reminds them he will be hiring hundreds of local workers to build that building and he will be using Union labor.

They tell him 40 stories is to many but they could allow 30. He rants, he raves, he threatens to build in another city.

In the end they talk Trump down to 35 stories and the deal is done.

What no one knows but Trump and his people is he really only wanted 25 stories but nailed the deal at 35.


You forgot the part where he uses foreign steel, then stiffs the contractors.


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According to who, you? He also accused obama of not being an actual citizen of this country, something that's also criminal.

There you go playing which one is worse even though you have previously said it shouldn't matter which is worse.

Yes, according to me.

According to me, accusing Obama of not being honest about his religion or about Bill Clinton believing in family values is a moral issue... accusing somebody of crimes or treason is a legal issue.. they are different.

As for the second part of your post, you would have to be more specific in what I said, because I usually respect the fact that things happen in degrees and are not the same... and should be treated with consideration of those differences...

I mean, on one hand, lying is lying.. on the other hand, lying about whether or not you finished the last of the ice cream and lying because you've been sleeping with your co-worker for 2 years are different degrees of lying...


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I was talking about obamas birth certificate that is a legal requirement to run for pres. which he obviously didn't have,but still was able to run but you guys are still questioning Trumps taxes,get off of it and tell us what the DEMS.are gonna do for our country

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