The idea that we are losing all our jobs and revenue to overseas companies because of the corporate tax is a nonsense.
When you pay a Carrier employee $60K a year in IN - and the same job can be done paying an employee $3 an hour somewhere else in the world --- it isn't the tax code that is forcing the jobs overseas. A business practice the Trump family is familiar with and exploits himself.
Add to that - that when you are in the Trump stratosphere you probably don't pay ANY tax - or you pay a fraction (as a percentage of your income) compared to the majority of working Americans. Why do you think Trump won't release his tax returns? Did you believe him when he said he couldn't release his tax returns because of the audit?
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
Builders of giant mountains out of tiny molehills.
No proof. No crimes. No collusion. No Impeachment. No Racism. No Hitler. No Treason. No Obstruction of Justice.
Only childish finger pointing by those determined to shut down our President even if it destroys our Nation. SHAME!
See. You didn't answer the question - and the only deduction possible is that you believe all the noise and concerns are a left wing and media invention. You don't believe there is any grounds for an investigation. You must believe the CIA and FBI and all the intelligence agencies who state Russia and the Russian govt was directly responsible for interfering with the election are filled with left wing whack jobs who flaunt their power with an agenda of a socialist state...... that is the ONLY conclusion for so blindly saying such things and for not answering the Q.
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The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
You were perfectly fine with leaks when the Russians were doing it.
Now you don't like it? Tough luck, snowflake.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Tell it to the Obama cronies in the CIA, FBI and NSA who have leaked everything anti Trump they can find.
The only thing that didn't leak was the FACT Trump was never under investigation for collusion.
Of this there is evidence and Proof!
Well maybe Trump can disband the CIA and the FBI - probably needs to disband his administration as there are a ton of leaks from there too.
As for whether Trump IS under investigation ... I don't actually no for sure. I do know that under testimony from multiple sources - it was always expected and likely that Trump would end up under investigation.
And what would it prove if he is not YET under investigation.
By your thinking the Browns are going to have a 16-0 season because they have not YET lost a game this season.
Personally I'd like to wait to the end of the season and the end of the investigation before crowing about the outcome.
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
And I don't hate Trump - I don't want him removed if there is no cause or wrong doing. Being a bully and acting like a jerk doesn't disqualify him from being POTUS.
Sarah Huckerbee said it best recently when she said Trump is the guy the people elected. They knew he lashes out when attacked - he did in his personal life, his business life and all through the primaries .... I think there are a TON of people who hoped he would act more 'presidential' once elected but a ton who love him stinking his finger up at the world and stirring the pot.
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
What's funny is that there are a group of people who will deny, deny, deny - deflect deflect deflect .... and then when someone comes forward (Flynn?) and says yep - Trump masterminded a giant sting operation in conjunction with Putin.... their response will be: So What?
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
If his behavior is perfectly acceptable with his supporters then so be it.
But potential collusion between trump and his administration/family should NOT be acceptable. And yet here they are, giving it a pass.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Well that's always your comeback 40. Anyone who questions him or disapproves of his actions MUST be a hater. Nobody should ever have a bad word to say about him according to you or they are the enemy. You should send in a resume' to be the next White House spokesperson.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Yea, I can tell from your many recent posts you are completely Fair and Balanced.
Want proof? Just look at the minions lining up to agree with your every word.
Nice deflection. Don't worry about addressing the points made in various posts I have made. $3 per hour workers are not the problem. Neither is Trump not paying any tax. Continuous misleading and incorrect statements on disclaimers relating to involvement with foreign entities is not an issue. Continuous revisions to the "story" about those meetings that never took place, then did take place, is not worthy of review.
That's fine.
It's simple - you fall into the category of individual who it simply isn't worth trying to discuss anything with. That's fine by me. At the end of the day I still hope you are right and that this is all a fuss about nothing and I hope Trump is great for America. But me hoping so doesn't mean I'll simply trust blindly and give the man a free pass on anything and everything as you are willing to do.
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
If his behavior is perfectly acceptable with his supporters then so be it.
But potential collusion between trump and his administration/family should NOT be acceptable. And yet here they are, giving it a pass.
I agree - but while some are giving him a free pass it is not everyone. Whatever Diam has stated before he said yesterday the investigation is warranted and if there is proof then prosecute those involved. . . that's all i am asking for too.
But it is going to take a long long time to unearth. And in the mean time Dems who rush to impeach based on flimsy grounds only hurt the process and perception. The media who spin and do more speculating than factual reporting hurt the process and perception. Stick to the facts - ask tough questions - see what happens.
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
If Trump Jr. had deleted his emails, wiped his systems clean with clorox and smashed his phones with a hammer, would the Press have lost interest and the investigations gone away?
I think it's pretty clear that the Trumps are too stupid or arrogant to cover all their tracks..
You fell for it.
I disagree entirely - I'd be happy to wager a large chunk of cash that if Don goes down it will never be linked to anything HE put in writing and in an email. I certainly think he's showing the arrogance of a boss who has never had shareholders or even a board to have to deal with or pacify and who has never been held deeply accountable for decisions and everything he says or does. . . But he's also sneaky in the way those that skirt the edges of the law are - and there is no way he would put something in writing that could come back and hurt him .... the rest of the team? Not so much.
No, you don't disagree, I said it was either stupidity or arrogance. What you describe is arrogance.
Trump went from being a man without a boss, to a man that has 300 million bosses.. And they demand that as president, he be accountable.
His actions so far have been those more of a dictator than a true leader.. and his tweeter rants are childlike. He's a vindictive ego maniac.
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This exemplifies the exact problem with this country...the "one side or the other" approach, when there are actually tons of different viewpoints. For instance, you could say that there are at least 3 different viewpoints: a Republican viewpoint, a Democratic viewpoint and an intelligent viewpoint.
Let's all keep blaming and defending, though, while the ship sinks.
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Builders of giant mountains out of tiny molehills.
No proof. No crimes. No Hitler. No Mussolini. No Racism. No Treason. No collusion. No Obstruction of Justice. No Impeachment.
-All you foolish people have to date is that Trump Jr. is an idiot.
What it has cost us...
Job creation. Healthcare. The costs of all the investigations. Tax cuts. Reformed tax laws. National economic growth. Media without credibility. International credibility. Coming together of American Society for the good of America.
-and I hope to not be adding Civil War to this list.
Actually, your list is very biased and one sided and doesn't accurately cover anything. Posting a list of BS with nothing to back it up means just that, nothing.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Builders of giant mountains out of tiny molehills.
No proof. No crimes. No Hitler. No Mussolini. No Racism. No Treason. No collusion. No Obstruction of Justice. No Impeachment.
-All you foolish people have to date is that Trump Jr. is an idiot.
What it has cost us...
Job creation. Healthcare. The costs of all the investigations. Tax cuts. Reformed tax laws. National economic growth. Media without credibility. International credibility. Coming together of American Society for the good of America.
-and I hope to not be adding Civil War to this list.
Time to grow up folks and put America First!
I'll warrant the cost of Trump's golfing trips to his properties most weekends has cost as much or more than any investigation to date.
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
Builders of giant mountains out of tiny molehills.
No proof. No crimes. No Hitler. No Mussolini. No Racism. No Treason. No collusion. No Obstruction of Justice. No Impeachment.
-All you foolish people have to date is that Trump Jr. is an idiot.
That drip drip drip leaking out of the WH ....is the swamp draining.
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What it has cost us...
Job creation. Healthcare. The costs of all the investigations. Tax cuts. Reformed tax laws. National economic growth. Media without credibility. International credibility.
So what you're saying is that this GOP led house and senate can't conduct an investigation into Russia's meddling and govern at the same time. Not Shocking
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
The idea that we are losing all our jobs and revenue to overseas companies because of the corporate tax is a nonsense.
When you pay a Carrier employee $60K a year in IN - and the same job can be done paying an employee $3 an hour somewhere else in the world --- it isn't the tax code that is forcing the jobs overseas. A business practice the Trump family is familiar with and exploits himself.
Add to that - that when you are in the Trump stratosphere you probably don't pay ANY tax - or you pay a fraction (as a percentage of your income) compared to the majority of working Americans. Why do you think Trump won't release his tax returns? Did you believe him when he said he couldn't release his tax returns because of the audit?
Your partially correct ... the tax code isn't the reason that jobs like Carrier are going to Mexico .. and just so u know . A 60k job here doesn't transfer to a 3 dollar an hour job ... 8 - 15 maybe 20 dollar and hour jobs transfer over to 3 dollar an hour jobs in mexico or overseas .. u sound like Pit with that statement ..
Thats the low end jobs .. where the corporate tax rate kills us is the higher end tech type jobs and companies moving there headquarters over seas to avoid these high taxes ...
Why do u think theres at least 2 trillion overseas right now instead of right back here doing three things ..
- increasing our tax revenue ... ask questions and I'll explain as I'm guessing that u will go to the very obvious simple rebuttal .. we'll see if u do adress it ..
- creating jobs for workers, expanding buildings
- creating jobs in R & D ..
Were almost double the next closest country in corporate tax .. theres ONE MAJOR PROBLEM were going to have getting it back here .. and i would venture to guess not a single one u has a clue as to what that might be .. .
I wasn't kidding when i said Pit had no clue what he was talking about when it came to low wage earners and upping the minimum wage .. and i seriously don't mean that as an insult .. its the truth .. blunt but true .. Pit wants to boil it down to a very simplistic 1 + 1 = 2 equation when that couldn't be further from the truth ...
There's a lot going on with this stuff .. A LOT ...
Under intensifying fire over its handling of the Russia investigations, the White House is shaking up its legal team, bringing on board a veteran Washington criminal defense lawyer just as another high-profile attorney bows out of representing a senior official who is in investigators’ cross hairs.
Ty Cobb, who has represented multiple figures in Washington scandals dating back to the Clinton administration, will be joining the White House staff at the end of this month as a special counsel to the president, charged with handling all legal and media-related issues relating to the Russia probe, sources said.
At the same time, Jamie Gorelick, a politically well-connected lawyer who has been representing Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law, is dropping out of the case, turning over all responsibilities for the Russia investigation to Abbe Lowell, another well-known Washington criminal defense lawyer.
In the coming weeks, Gorelick will be “wrapping up” her representation of Kushner on issues relating to ethics and his security clearance form, the sources said. But Lowell, a skilled litigator who has represented clients ranging from former Sen. John Edwards to corrupt Washington fixer Jack Abramoff, will exclusively represent Kushner in inquires being conducted by congressional committees and Justice Department special counsel Robert Mueller.
The legal moves come as the White House legal team is facing mounting criticism over allegations it has badly mishandled the president’s defense. Yahoo News reported Thursday night that Marc Kasowitz, the president’s chief outside lawyer, was informed in June about the existence of emails showing the president’s son, Donald Trump Jr., met with a Kremlin-connected lawyer, hoping to receive “incriminating” information and documents about Hillary Clinton that had reputedly been assembled by the Russian government.
View photos Washington attorney Jamie Gorelick. (Photo: Matt McClain/Washington Post via Getty Images) More Whether Kasowitz or other members of the president’s defense team informed their client about the emails is not known; Trump told reporters this week he only learned about the meeting “two or three days ago.” But Richard Painter, the former top ethics lawyer for President George W. Bush, said it was “unbelievable” that the president’s lawyers would not have alerted President Trump to the matter when they learned about them. “You have a professional obligation to inform the client about information that he needs to make informed decisions,” he said.
There have been other stumbles by Kasowitz. On Thursday, he apologized for sending obscenity-laced and menacing emails to a stranger who had urged him to quit representing Trump. (Kasowitz, through a spokesman, said he regretted the emails, explaining they had “come at the end of a very long day.”)
And, after publicly vowing to file legal complaints against former FBI Director James Comey with the Justice Department inspector general, Kasowitz later dropped the matter “out of deference to Mueller to let him do his job,” Yahoo News reported last month.
Cobb, who is distantly related to the Hall of Fame baseball player of the same name, declined to comment about his new role. But he is known to take a different approach to Washington scandal management than the combative Kasowitz. His preferred modus operandi, he has told associates, is to get out in front of negative stories and publicly release as much information as possible under the theory that it’s likely to come out anyway and concealing it will only exacerbate future political problems.
Unlike Kasowitz and two other outside defense lawyers representing the president, Jay Sekulow and John Dowd, Cobb will be joining the White House staff. But he won’t be reporting to Don McGahn, the White House counsel. Instead, he will serve as “special counsel” to Trump himself, making him the point man in the ongoing struggle to persuade the president not to tweet about matters that could complicate his legal problems in the Russia probe.
Marc KasowitzView photos Marc Kasowitz, personal attorney of President Trump, after delivering a statement following the congressional testimony of former FBI Director James Comey, June 8, 2017. (Photo: Manuel Balce Ceneta/AP) More The sources say Gorelick’s time as Kushner’s chief lawyer were numbered once Lowell came on board as a member of his legal team more than a month ago. It would be highly unusual for two such prominent lawyers from different firms to share responsibilities in a sensitive criminal investigation.
Gorelick was always in an awkward role as Kushner’s counsel. She is a prominent Democrat in Washington legal circles, having served as chief counsel to the Defense Department and later deputy attorney general during the Clinton administration. She had faced quiet criticism from longtime friends and colleagues for being associated with the legal defense of a top official in the Trump White House. But sources familiar with the matter said that Gorelick’s departure was largely driven by the appointment of Mueller, who had been a partner in Gorelick’s firm, Wilmer Hale, to serve as special counsel. At that point, Gorelick informed Kushner that conflict-of-interest issues could arise over her representation, including the possibility that Mueller might be motivated to be tougher on Kushner —leaning over backward to avoid the appearance of going easy on him out of deference to his former law partner. After weighing the issues, Kushner chose to hire Lowell as his lawyer in the Russia probe.
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“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Thank you for the detailed response. And I don't disagree with the analysis of salary comparison. I was overly simplistic because of who I responded to and the nature of the post I responded to.
I'd have to do some research on the offshore money. I can tell you that many countries around the world all complain about the same issue .... I believe that thinking you will get all or even most of that money back in the USA with a 10 corporate tax rate is wishful.
I think an overhaul of the tax code in general and eliminating the exemptions and loopholes would do as much or more than simply cutting corp rate.
But yes it's complicated and multifacet dynamic.
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
This exemplifies the exact problem with this country...the "one side or the other" approach, when there are actually tons of different viewpoints. For instance, you could say that there are at least 3 different viewpoints: a Republican viewpoint, a Democratic viewpoint and an intelligent viewpoint.
Let's all keep blaming and defending, though, while the ship sinks.
40...I see that you are a Vladimir Putin supporter..a supporter of all things Russian.
You are a minority in this country, not a majority.
Most Americans love their country more than their political party..but sadly, some put other silly things ahead of their love of America.
Not everyone has the same values..not everyone has the same degree of patriotism..but thankfully, those lacking in patriotism are a minority in America.
Damn son.....but nonetheless true. But that cover is definitely gonna stick with the trump family for years to come.
And rightfully so.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
They have a video floating around of Chris Wallace and Shepard smith roasting the Trump administration right now.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Builders of giant mountains out of tiny molehills.
No proof. No crimes. No Hitler. No Mussolini. No Racism. No Treason. No collusion. No Obstruction of Justice. No Impeachment.
-All you foolish people have to date is that Trump Jr. is an idiot.
What it has cost us...
Job creation. Healthcare. The costs of all the investigations. Tax cuts. Reformed tax laws. National economic growth. Media without credibility. International credibility. Coming together of American Society for the good of America.
-and I hope to not be adding Civil War to this list.
Under intensifying fire over its handling of the Russia investigations, the White House is shaking up its legal team, bringing on board a veteran Washington criminal defense lawyer just as another high-profile attorney bows out of representing a senior official who is in investigators’ cross hairs.
Ty Cobb, who has represented multiple figures in Washington scandals dating back to the Clinton administration, will be joining the White House staff at the end of this month as a special counsel to the president, charged with handling all legal and media-related issues relating to the Russia probe, sources said.
At the same time, Jamie Gorelick, a politically well-connected lawyer who has been representing Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law, is dropping out of the case, turning over all responsibilities for the Russia investigation to Abbe Lowell, another well-known Washington criminal defense lawyer.
In the coming weeks, Gorelick will be “wrapping up” her representation of Kushner on issues relating to ethics and his security clearance form, the sources said. But Lowell, a skilled litigator who has represented clients ranging from former Sen. John Edwards to corrupt Washington fixer Jack Abramoff, will exclusively represent Kushner in inquires being conducted by congressional committees and Justice Department special counsel Robert Mueller.
The legal moves come as the White House legal team is facing mounting criticism over allegations it has badly mishandled the president’s defense. Yahoo News reported Thursday night that Marc Kasowitz, the president’s chief outside lawyer, was informed in June about the existence of emails showing the president’s son, Donald Trump Jr., met with a Kremlin-connected lawyer, hoping to receive “incriminating” information and documents about Hillary Clinton that had reputedly been assembled by the Russian government.
View photos Washington attorney Jamie Gorelick. (Photo: Matt McClain/Washington Post via Getty Images) More Whether Kasowitz or other members of the president’s defense team informed their client about the emails is not known; Trump told reporters this week he only learned about the meeting “two or three days ago.” But Richard Painter, the former top ethics lawyer for President George W. Bush, said it was “unbelievable” that the president’s lawyers would not have alerted President Trump to the matter when they learned about them. “You have a professional obligation to inform the client about information that he needs to make informed decisions,” he said.
There have been other stumbles by Kasowitz. On Thursday, he apologized for sending obscenity-laced and menacing emails to a stranger who had urged him to quit representing Trump. (Kasowitz, through a spokesman, said he regretted the emails, explaining they had “come at the end of a very long day.”)
And, after publicly vowing to file legal complaints against former FBI Director James Comey with the Justice Department inspector general, Kasowitz later dropped the matter “out of deference to Mueller to let him do his job,” Yahoo News reported last month.
Cobb, who is distantly related to the Hall of Fame baseball player of the same name, declined to comment about his new role. But he is known to take a different approach to Washington scandal management than the combative Kasowitz. His preferred modus operandi, he has told associates, is to get out in front of negative stories and publicly release as much information as possible under the theory that it’s likely to come out anyway and concealing it will only exacerbate future political problems.
Unlike Kasowitz and two other outside defense lawyers representing the president, Jay Sekulow and John Dowd, Cobb will be joining the White House staff. But he won’t be reporting to Don McGahn, the White House counsel. Instead, he will serve as “special counsel” to Trump himself, making him the point man in the ongoing struggle to persuade the president not to tweet about matters that could complicate his legal problems in the Russia probe.
Marc KasowitzView photos Marc Kasowitz, personal attorney of President Trump, after delivering a statement following the congressional testimony of former FBI Director James Comey, June 8, 2017. (Photo: Manuel Balce Ceneta/AP) More The sources say Gorelick’s time as Kushner’s chief lawyer were numbered once Lowell came on board as a member of his legal team more than a month ago. It would be highly unusual for two such prominent lawyers from different firms to share responsibilities in a sensitive criminal investigation.
Gorelick was always in an awkward role as Kushner’s counsel. She is a prominent Democrat in Washington legal circles, having served as chief counsel to the Defense Department and later deputy attorney general during the Clinton administration. She had faced quiet criticism from longtime friends and colleagues for being associated with the legal defense of a top official in the Trump White House. But sources familiar with the matter said that Gorelick’s departure was largely driven by the appointment of Mueller, who had been a partner in Gorelick’s firm, Wilmer Hale, to serve as special counsel. At that point, Gorelick informed Kushner that conflict-of-interest issues could arise over her representation, including the possibility that Mueller might be motivated to be tougher on Kushner —leaning over backward to avoid the appearance of going easy on him out of deference to his former law partner. After weighing the issues, Kushner chose to hire Lowell as his lawyer in the Russia probe.
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Sure are a lot of 'criminal defense' attorneys being hired by Trump and company... I think they will ALL need them. I wonder if Pence will be implicated in the cover up or if he is blind to the truth. I can't believe all this is going on around him and he has zero insider knowledge of it.
Sure are a lot of 'criminal defense' attorneys being hired by Trump and company... I think they will ALL need them. I wonder if Pence will be implicated in the cover up or if he is blind to the truth. I can't believe all this is going on around him and he has zero insider knowledge of it.
President Ryan, Hatch, Tillerson? wth? lol
I believe we looking at the tip of the iceberg and a long way from the end.
How far does the Russian influence go and what will be exposed when investigators dig into the finances of the GOP-Russian connection?
McCain said it best..there are more shoes to drop...
