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https://www.profootballrumors.com/2017/07/multiple-teams-had-discussions-with-johnny-manzielMultiple Teams Had Discussions With Johnny Manziel July 15th, 2017 at 4:09pm CST by Sam Robinson Johnny Manziel has not played in the NFL since the 2015 season, and not currently being affiliated with a team as training camps near, the former Heisman Trophy-winning quarterback’s chances of a 2017 comeback are decreasing. But Manziel said he’s had “a couple of discussions” with teams about a possible return to the league, Jon Machota of the Dallas Morning News reports (on Twitter). The Browns cut Manziel in March of 2016, and legal issues and strange off-the-field headlines seemed to distance him further from a possible comeback. Multiple reports, however, linked Manziel to a potential return to the league. Saints coach Sean Payton had breakfast with the former first-round pick, but the team was not believed to have strong interest in the dual-threat signal-caller. New Orleans also went in a different direction in signing Chase Daniel and Ryan Nassib this offseason. “I know the situation I put myself in. I know the year off and obviously the mistakes that I made,” Manziel said, via Machota (on Twitter). “Right now, I’m hopeful. I’m really hopeful. I think that I made some progress in that regard, but we’ll see. Whenever I get a call, I’ll do whatever I can to make the most of it.” Manziel declared himself sober months ago and was willing to submit to drug testing in advance of a comeback bid. The latest interest in the passer appears to be more on the exploratory side, but Manziel being just 24 may not rule out a reclamation project attempt from a team. But the longer the former Texas A&M superstar is out of football, the slimmer those hopes get. “It’s hard sitting here going through OTA time and going through summer time and then getting ready to go through fall camp and not being a part of it,” Manziel said, via Machota (Twitter link). “But at the same time, I’m really optimistic and hopeful that I’ll get another chance. That’s really what I’m holding out for every day.” So, the rumors are that New Orleans and Houston are showing the most interest. PLEASE let Houston sign him ... it would be a way for us to come full circle and regain a top pick. This should be entertaining ... 
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I hate to start a thread for this, but I could not figure out where to put it. I am not posting it because of Manziel returning, but I found Shanny's comments very, very interesting. Oh, I get that most will just trash Manziel, but I would prefer the focus be on Shanny's comments. Can you do that? Johnny Manziel says he's talked to a couple of NFL teams about a comeback Updated on July 15, 2017 at 6:29 PMPosted on July 15, 2017 at 6:28 PM 0 shares By Mary Kay Cabot, cleveland.com CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Johnny Manziel was recently engaged and now he's ready to be fully engaged on the football field again. Manziel, who was waived by the Browns and sat out all last season, said at a fantasy football convention in Dallas Saturday that he's talked to a couple of NFL teams about a comeback. "I know the situation that I put myself in," Manziel said, per Jon Machota of the Dallas Morning News. "I know the year I took off and obviously the mistakes that I made. Right now, I'm hopeful. I'm really hopeful. I think that I made some progress in that regard. But we'll see. Whenever I get a call, I'll do whatever I can to make the most of it." Manziel, the No. 22 overall pick of the Browns in 2014, has mostly stayed out of the news since his prolonged bender in the spring of 2016, when he was involved in one incident after another, including smashing up a car, allegedly trashing a Beverly Hills mansion and a brief disappearance that had folks more worried about him than usual. ADVERTISING Then, Manziel met his current fiance Bre Tiesi and got himself turned around. They got engaged in March, and now he feels more ready than ever to give the NFL another go. "I think the thing I realized over the past year and the thing I realized from being away from it is really how much you miss it," Manziel said. "That's all I've known for so long. It's what I love to do. It's hard. It's hard sitting here going through OTA time and going through summer time and then getting ready to go through fall camp and not being part of it. "But at the same time, I'm really optimistic and hopeful that I'll get another chance. That's really what I'm holding out for every day." Apparently, there are some coaches in the NFL who believe Manziel still has some merit. NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reported that Manziel met with Saints coach Sean Payton at the Super Bowl about a possible return, and current 49ers coach Kyle Shanahan acknowledged there that he liked Manziel when he coached him in Cleveland.
"I'm not sure (if he'll make it back into the league),'' Shanahan said then. "I haven't talked to Johnny for a while. I reached out to him a little bit last year when he was going through his stuff, just through texts and everything. But I really like Johnny as a guy. Even my time with him, he obviously had some issues outside of that building, but when I was with Johnny, he was great. He did what I asked, he worked.
"Whenever he didn't do a good job he was accountable, he would never point the finger of blame at other people. He would say, 'Coach I've got to get better.' He always said the right thing. I know he's had stuff he's been through obviously over the last couple years, but I really enjoyed my time with him and I really hope that he can get it together.''Manziel was suspended four games last season for violating the NFL's substance abuse policy, but never caught on with a team. If and when he does get back, he might also be suspended for his domestic incident with his ex-girlfriend Colleen Crowley. But if Manziel can convince a team that he's truly a new man -- and he can be very persuasive -- someone might be willing to give him a chance. http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/07/johnny_manziel_says_hes_talked.html
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Ha.....I just posted an article in the Tailgate forum about Manziel, but it included comments from Shanny about Manziel and a mention of Payton talking to him.
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I'm surprised he's not playing in the Canadian football league.
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Manziel always said "The right thing" during his time in Cleveland. But he never meant any of it.
So what is Shanny supposed to say? Throw him under the bus? Probably not. Shanny will always say "the right thing" as well.
JM was a disaster, and thats not likely to change.
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He always said the right thing. Deeds speak louder than words.
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“It’s hard sitting here going through OTA time and going through summer time and then getting ready to go through fall camp and not being a part of it,” Manziel said That could drive a guy to drink
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I think Manziel always saying the right thing was part of his deceptive personality.
I also think he could have been a very special talent. A very unique player who, with a different makeup, could have been a franchise QB for many years.
I'll never forget that scramble he had against Seattle. He ran forward, sideways, between two defenders, backyards. It was something you just can't teach.
And don't tell me how or what to post! Get off my lawn!
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I don't believe a word he says...he's probably short on money that's why he wants to return...
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I believe Gordon can still come back, though maybe it is unlikely. Other guys can overcome problems. But a quarterback is different. They can't suddenly find the discipline and habits they need to plat that position, not matter how stupid they feel about wasting their potential. Manziel has no chance.And I was one who rooted hard for him. No chance.
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I think Manziel always saying the right thing was part of his deceptive personality.
I also think he could have been a very special talent. A very unique player who, with a different makeup, could have been a franchise QB for many years.
I'll never forget that scramble he had against Seattle. He ran forward, sideways, between two defenders, backyards. It was something you just can't teach.
And don't tell me how or what to post! Get off my lawn! I agreee, and I am sure the dysfunctionality of the franchise we were didnt help things either. I say that in past tense, with optimism
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I think Manziel always saying the right thing was part of his deceptive personality.
I also think he could have been a very special talent. A very unique player who, with a different makeup, could have been a franchise QB for many years.
I'll never forget that scramble he had against Seattle. He ran forward, sideways, between two defenders, backyards. It was something you just can't teach.
And don't tell me how or what to post! Get off my lawn! I agree - I'd pick a clean & sober Manziel over all our other QB's, 'cept for Kizer, who needs to still show us his NFL play. Trouble is, Manziel can't quit partying and most likely blew his chance at playing in the NFL already. Lesson to be learned here.
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Who cares? This dude probably running outta cash and without daddy's support, needs income to be able to buy that 8-ball.
He'll always be a loser in my eyes for how he conducted himself here. I highly doubt anyone in the NFL is going to give this loser a chance.
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Weren't there rumors about "multiple teams showing interest" in him right when we cut him? I will believe this when I see something happen.
If he finds a home before Kaepernick, what would that say about Kaepernick?
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I have to go along with what some have already said. Johnny always said the right thing. What I take away from Shannys comments is that he won't trash Johnny like so many others have. Shanny is pretty classy that way. But there's also what he didn't say. I didn't see him say a word about the possibility of signing him which would bring him back into the league.
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Shannon Sharpe kinda sums up most of my views about this and Kaep.
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A lying ,drunk,lazy, druggie, getting calls, but Kap isn't ? Ppl ,keep telling yourself it's because Kap can't play. Y'all tickle me.
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They may have had discussions with him but I don't see anyone signing him. Big difference.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
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Shannon Sharpe kinda sums up most of my views about this and Kaep.
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A lying ,drunk,lazy, druggie, getting calls, but Kap isn't ? Ppl ,keep telling yourself it's because Kap can't play. Y'all tickle me.
Many people have said that Kaepernick cannot be signed because a backup QB cannot be a distraction. We will know that he is a lie if Manziel is signed (I don't think anyone will sign him).
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Shanahan was so fond of Manziel, that after one year of working together, Kyle demanded out of his contract with the Browns and took some rather significant steps to do so. I recall he made a PowerPoint presentation of all the reasons why he should be able to leave. If we're being honest, that decision worked out rather well for Shanahan.
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Shannon Sharpe kinda sums up most of my views about this and Kaep.
shannon sharpe‏ @ShannonSharpe 17h17 hours ago
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A lying ,drunk,lazy, druggie, getting calls, but Kap isn't ? Ppl ,keep telling yourself it's because Kap can't play. Y'all tickle me.
Many people have said that Kaepernick cannot be signed because a backup QB cannot be a distraction. We will know that he is a lie if Manziel is signed (I don't think anyone will sign him). It's not just the distraction angle (Tim Tebow also got that treatment.) There's also the business decision angle. NFL fans will put up with lying, drunk, lazy, druggies. There are quite a few of those in the league. Leading a protest against the National Anthem crosses the line-- I'm not saying the reaction is necessarily logical, especially given that somebody like Isaiah Crowell's much more hostile expression received less backlash, but teams don't want to deal with the inevitable fan boycotts and such with Kaepernick. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...o-fan-backlash/The NFL party line, as articulated by Commissioner Roger Goodell, is that Colin Kaepernick’s unemployment is football related, Giants owner John Mara has acknowledged off-field concerns contributing as well.
Mara told Jenny Vrentas of TheMMQB.com that the Giants didn’t discuss signing Kaepernick this offseason, and that they’ve heard from many fans who would be angry if they did.
“All my years being in the league, I never received more emotional mail from people than I did about that issue,” Mara said. “If any of your players ever do that, we are never coming to another Giants game. It wasn’t one or two letters. It was a lot. It’s an emotional, emotional issue for a lot of people, moreso than any other issue I’ve run into.”
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I agree with everything you said (I don't agree with the sentiment behind it).
John Mara, the owner who kept a kicker on the team even after he knew he beat his wife, should keep his mouth shut.
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A team like Houston with a young (hopeful to be) franchise QB would be SO dumb to sign Manziel. There are only two types of teams that would do it IMO:
1. A team with a vet, established, franchise QB (Patriots, Steelers, Packers, etc)
2. A team with literally no hope at the position and stinks (Jaguars, 49ers, Jets)
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The road back to actually being on a NFL roster may be long. It may take a trip to the Canadian league and proving what he can do both on and off the field.
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The road back to actually being on a NFL roster may be long. It may take a trip to the Canadian league and proving what he can do both on and off the field. Agreed. That's prob what has gotta be done for Johnny. I'm not buying this "gaining interest" stuff. Johnny has yet to prove that he's not a hand grenade with the pin pulled out. lol Until he does that, who could trust him? QB is not the position to have distractions at. Especially a distraction from a backup. And as someone said earlier, Johnny has always said the right things. He just does all the wrong things
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Personally I don't care what JM is doing or wants to do. I wish him no harm but after what he put us all through here I just don't care. It was our FO fault for picking him in the first place without doing all the back round checks on him. I never wanted us to draft him in the 1st place but when we did I was 100% behind him. If he worked at it and cared he could have at least had a chance to be our franchise QB instead he was just another in the long line of wasted 1st round busts. JMO
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That's pretty much what he needs to do. ...And quit partying. For good. Good luck.
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Why do we keep flogging this loser's career? Skill Set was great. But he chose to blow it many times over. Trick or treat with JM's clown car of problems. They just keep coming, he keeps up the lies and manipulation and bad choices.
Lame experiment that failed horribly. Interest must be in second string on a PS.
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Johnny has a long road ahead ... unlike Kap he's never proven he was an NFL QB ..
Kap is not in the league cause no one wants the PR nightmare he would bring ... he has proven to be a good back up at the minimum ... Johhny is more than likely not in the league cause he ain't proved diddly ... i doubt he gets a 2nd chance ...
I hope he has turned it around and is drug and alchohol free ... makes for a much happier and productive life ...
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I don't care what he does. good luck to him, but as a Browns fan, thanks for nothing, Johnny.
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Besides his sociopathic tendencies, I never saw him do anything on the field at the NFL level that made me think he'd make it as one of the 32 starters. He was a ridiculous pick in the first round. The only thing he accomplished during his time here was to make going to watch training camp a pain in the ass. Right now, he's right where he needs to be, outside looking in. JMHO
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That's a pretty nice thing that Shanny said about him. Really, it's too bad that Manziel couldn't keep his head on straight. Who knows what might have been.
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Manziel isn't a Cleveland Brown and as far as I am concerned...he never really was. I mean, of course he technically was but, he never showed the commitment to the team, the FO, the coaches, the city or the fans AND he barely played for us. So, why we keep going on and on about him is beyond me.
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This interest in Manziel is overblown. IMO...The only team owner low enough to sign him would be Jim Irsay and I don't think he's that stupid to do so. Besides doesn't Manziel have a suspension hanging over his head if he returns to the NFL?
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This interest in Manziel is overblown. IMO...The only team owner low enough to sign him would be Jim Irsay and I don't think he's that stupid to do so. Besides doesn't Manziel have a suspension hanging over his head if he returns to the NFL? I think that's Justin Gilbert, but I don't think any team now the Saints sort of passed on him is interested in JF. If so, they would've gotten him, and I'm sure on the very cheap side, before minicamp and etc. Another huge mistake in terms of Cleveland Browns drafting. One of many, unfortunately.
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so Manziel can draw interest but Kap can't?
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I don't really think that he is drawing interest, Swish. And Kap has been drawing some interest.
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