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tell your boy Sessions i'm bout to burn one right now. send the feds to come get me.


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i would laugh but Sessions would arrest me like he did ole girl


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Aren't you proud of yourself, breaking the law....unless you are a depressed human being with a medically approved reason for use...hope you aren't going out to drive..

as far as 50 yr old research, how's study, 2014/16 comparing the economic impart of weed use....how do you compare to your father...other studies, gum disease, heart disease, memory issues, birth defects, it goes on and on....yet weed users can spout their studies...not bad for you....right.

here's what my study says...Impact On Social And Economic Problems

A study performed by researchers at the University of California claims that long-term cannabis use is unsafe. The study showed that long-term marijuana users ended up in lower social classes than their parents.

The study followed children from birth to the age of 38. Researchers observed that those who smoked cannabis four or more times a week ended up in lower social classes than their parents. They also apparently had lower-paying, less-skilled, and less-prestigious jobs than those who were not regular cannabis smokers.

Heavy users also “experienced more financial, work-related and relationship difficulties, which worsened as the number of years of cannabis use progressed,” the study said.

Wonder how many weed users are "better than their parents" or at least close....I have my opinion, what is yours?


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I'm sure happy that our forefathers broke the law or we would be ruled by the British. Almost every social change has been forced to happen by breaking the law. All those who drank alcohol during prohibition should have been locked up! Those damned law breakers! lmao


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A study performed by researchers at the University of California claims that long-term cannabis use is unsafe. The study showed that long-term marijuana users ended up in lower social classes than their parents.


Like any study on weed, it's impossible to say that weed alone is the cause.

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The study followed children from birth to the age of 38. Researchers observed that those who smoked cannabis four or more times a week ended up in lower social classes than their parents. They also apparently had lower-paying, less-skilled, and less-prestigious jobs than those who were not regular cannabis smokers.


Once again you can't use one entity like weed as proof to this.

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Heavy users also “experienced more financial, work-related and relationship difficulties, which worsened as the number of years of cannabis use progressed,” the study said.


Again you can't use weed as the only factor to these results.

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Wonder how many weed users are "better than their parents" or at least close....I have my opinion, what is yours?


I wonder how many non users are better off than their "weed using parents" rofl Now there's a study for you!


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I'm sure happy that our forefathers broke the law or we would be ruled by the British. Almost every social change has been forced to happen by breaking the law. All those who drank alcohol during prohibition should have been locked up! Those damned law breakers! lmao


Now you compare the Founding of our Nation, our Founding Fathers and the Revolution to your precious weed. rofl

Tell us again how you don't use the stuff. rofl

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When I did smoke weed I wasn't afraid to let it be known on the board. Of course you weren't here then so you don't have a clue. When I stopped smoking it, I stated that as well. I would have zero problem saying I smoked it if I still did.

Of course you can't comprehend that since the very beginning of our nation, change has come about through civil disobedience. I'm not surprised by this.


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Sorry I hijacked this discussion and turned it into weed - however to put human weakness- drug abuse- weed, alcohol, or any of the others- meth, heroin, etc and saying breaking the law was what our Founding Fathers wanted us to do...really...what about- we are a nation of laws, law abiding citizens who are interested in furthering the common good....where does that fit with your "weed culture".

I want what Sessions stated, take money from criminals and if that hurts their families...so be it...earn your pay honestly. AND I agree in innocent until proved guilty....yet we've had these laws aimed at criminals for decades....will there be errors, yes, BUT those will be the exception...unlike some on the boards, I don't fear the police...I have one as a neighbor, two house down...no issues.


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Aren't you proud of yourself, breaking the law....unless you are a depressed human being with a medically approved reason for use...hope you aren't going out to drive..

as far as 50 yr old research, how's study, 2014/16 comparing the economic impart of weed use....how do you compare to your father...other studies, gum disease, heart disease, memory issues, birth defects, it goes on and on....yet weed users can spout their studies...not bad for you....right.

here's what my study says...Impact On Social And Economic Problems

A study performed by researchers at the University of California claims that long-term cannabis use is unsafe. The study showed that long-term marijuana users ended up in lower social classes than their parents.

The study followed children from birth to the age of 38. Researchers observed that those who smoked cannabis four or more times a week ended up in lower social classes than their parents. They also apparently had lower-paying, less-skilled, and less-prestigious jobs than those who were not regular cannabis smokers.

Heavy users also “experienced more financial, work-related and relationship difficulties, which worsened as the number of years of cannabis use progressed,” the study said.

Wonder how many weed users are "better than their parents" or at least close....I have my opinion, what is yours?



I know you didn't ask me but I can give real life examples.
Both my younger sister and I have improved our financial station beyond our parents.

I'll also add that in my direct circle of friends I know daily, to muiltiple times over a course of a week, smokers that are...
oral surgeon/dentist
psychiatrist
ER MD
school teachers
dental hygienist
nurses
environmental scientists
general contractors
arborist
warehouse manger
scientific lab owner
...the list could go on.

So despite what reefer madness taught you the facts are much different. Chances are you deal with and trust people daily that light up after a hard day at work. I've come to accept that though I don't drink I expect that many folk I come into contact with during my average day had a beer or a glass of wine the night before. It's time that the reefer madness folk to accept that every person that lights a bowl isn't destined to live in their parent's basement for life.


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Originally Posted By: hitt

I want what Sessions stated, take money from criminals and if that hurts their families...so be it...earn your pay honestly. AND I agree in innocent until proved guilty....yet we've had these laws aimed at criminals for decades....will there be errors, yes, BUT those will be the exception...unlike some on the boards, I don't fear the police...I have one as a neighbor, two house down...no issues.


You either believe that people are innocent until proven guilty or you don't. If you do believe in that, then you can not promote someone being punished for a crime until they're convicted of a crime. It's really pretty simple.

And once again, the only thing I'm comparing is how this nation has always caused change through civil disobedience. Be it the founding of our country, civil rights, womens rights, overturning prohibition or any other changes. At this very time, the only reason weed is legal in the states it is, is due to the fact that states realized that illegal weed was an unenforcable law. The same as the overturning of prohibition.

Civil disobedience is changing marijuana laws. No matter how it's used, whether to free a nation or change laws on the books, it's all civil disobedience.


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How many people smoke 1, 2, or 3 packs of pot a day?


Who says they have smoke that much? Just reg use over a long period of time is enough.


Smoking one joint a day is not as bad as smoking 20, 40,or 60 cigarettes a day.


Yeah, I mean, joints are made out of hemp or rice paper and while create tar, the tar is not a mixture of nicotene and acetone. It's also not physically addictive like cigs are. Although I really don't care because all I smoke are blunts. Also what about all the people smoking out of bongs or pipes? That creates even less tar!

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Your list is great and I'm happy for you....what about the research....guess it was to small a sample.

Civil disobedience- yes, civil rights, women's rights, etc...all good...if you are saying alcohol is good for us-ie prohibition repeal is good- I'd disagree, abused by an alcoholic father, (millions of us- hurt by drugs} I have a different view...there is a reason some things in society are called sin taxes- alcohol, cigarettes, soon weed taxes- society is picking on people who get hooked on stuff.

Original discussion- change the laws IF you can, the vast majority of Americans want criminal money in hands of government AND will put up with some wrongs to attain that goal...JMHO, but think I'm right due to many laws on the books used now.


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My issue isn't really about a personal view. It's about how people react and the steps they take to try and create change. You seem to be picking and choosing when it's right or wrong to use civil disobedience. That really wasn't my point. My point is people have always used civil disobedience to bring about change.

Any time society decides you can punish a person before being found guilty you have chosen to ignore due process. Stomping on the rights of people just because you "suspect them" of something is wrong. The context of it isn't appropriate to decide. Either the law is the same for everyone or the law isn't for anyone.

Making excuses and special circumstances to deny people of their rights is just wrong.


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Too many posts to reply to, so I'll just post this here. I didn't word things the way I wanted to above. The links below are pretty good articles on studies. The first, especially has great information on the positive and negative side of marijuana use.

http://nationalacademies.org/hmd/reports/2017/health-effects-of-cannabis-and-cannabinoids.aspx (committee conclusions pdf is what I am referring to, but all are interesting)

https://today.duke.edu/2016/05/cannhealth

https://www.livescience.com/48171-marijuana-research-health-effects-review.html




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Quickly just read all those "current studies"- no goods for weed use unless you are very sick....LOTs of negatives- sad so many use it as a recreational drug. BUT, drug war has been lost....government might as well tax the hell out of it to pay for driving accidents, mental health issues, etc., etc.....alcohol abuse isn't enough, we need weed. And heroin, meth, crack, prescription drug abuse...on and on.


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I think people should keep it to no more than one per day



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