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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/888504508900179968

First order of business.......

I think it is legit, too. I also have lost a ton of respect for Kyrie.

What a completely, utterly selfish move!!!

Damn! I really thought we could compete for another title next year.

Alluding to LeBron moving on or kyrie moving on?

I say trade him to the Knicks and bring in Carmelo. There would have to be other players involved, and I'd hope we'd get at elast one first rounder. but something can be worked out.

Though if the Sprurs interest is true, at least he'd be going to the West. I just don't know who we'd want in return. Maybe LA, but that wouldn't make sense with both TT and Love on the roster.

If the rumors of LeBron's agents reaching out to the Lakers is true, I wouldn't be surprised to see Gilbert trade LeBron instead (a) as a payback for the decision and (b) to get something in return for LeBron.

My bad. I should have been more clear. Essentially Lebron and the team moving from Kyrie, is the tone I took from the tweet. I'll try and find it.

I think he means that Kyrie doesn't want to be second fiddle to LeBron.

And I think it sure came across that way from the article.

Now I don't see it on his twitter feed. Admittedly, it was recited on the airwaves and heard it on the way home from work. But his twitter posts today don't reflect the commentary shared on the radio---maybe it was deleted?

Who says we still can't?

I know you never get dollar for dollar for superstar trades in the NBA, but let's see what the possibilities are before we write the season off. Remember, the East is weak and we still have Lebron. Okay, maybe I'm talking about just getting to the Finals, but there was a high probability the Warriors would have beat us with Kyrie anyway.

I thought Kyrie believed that the world was flat.

Now I see that he believes it revolves around him.

j/c:

Assuming Kyrie is all but gone, I wonder what the Cavs can get in return...and where? Kyrie is an amazing player (top 10-15, IMO w/ the homer curve in play) and it won't be easy getting equal value.

- I wonder if other Cavs players will accompany Irving in a trade that may free up cap space, or at a minimum, lessen the luxury tax?

- Will it be about players or accumulating assets lost due to past trades (I doubt it'll be about assets)

- With a new GM, it'll be interesting to see if Lebron's role (or lack thereof) becomes public. There was a report that Lebron is leaving it to the team execs to handle....not sure if that is good or bad. Not necessarily because of his acumen but perhaps his currently feeling of the situation and the Cavs' position is waning.

Tons of questions. Tons.

Maybe Portland is an option? New Orleans?

ThatGuy, get your trade machine ready.

You're right........I'm just shocked and disappointed.

I read Irving has four preferred landing spots: New York, Miami, San Antonio, or Minnesota. I can't recall which article had that.

Funny you should say that....


https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/888520043419635712

I've heard spurs as well. Mills, green and. 2018 1st

Nope. That's not enough IMO.

Both those deals suck. LOL....man!

trade him for melo and KP.

if he really wants to be gone only because he doesn't want to play with lebron, kick rocks kyrie!!!

thanks for the title, though!!

Has to be something else involved, more players or more teams. The trade can't work 1:1, even with NY adding picks.

Same guy as above:





https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report

Why not?

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8meeknq

I know he is gone, but I'd prefer a situation where there is a "sit down", people air their issues, but a resolution is made. I'd rather keep Kyrie. Lebron ain't going to be around forever.

If this is, solely, his choice, fine. Peace out. But I hope there aren't any dumb, external factors whispering in his ear. I just don't see how this could be considered a good career move. This is so frustrating.

It's very frustrating. From LeBron not committing to this trade request by kyrie, it just seems so typical Cleveland. Can't have a good thing for very long in Cleveland. Something has to muck it up.

Meanwhile in GS, you have HOF players taking less money to stay together and win. No reports of dysfunction. Just winning and happy times.

As much as I like Kyrie, if that happened.....



But it won't. I don't see a scenario where OKC does that. The people would burn that city down.

We have the Browns, though.

That's on LeBron. He could easily do that AND commit a little longer than 1/2 years per contract.

Report: LeBron focused on training, not Kyrie

ESPN sent shockwaves throughout the NBA community today, when it reported All-Star point guard Kyrie Irving last week asked the Cleveland Cavaliers to trade him.

Amico Hoops has confirmed that Irving did indeed ask for a trade and is tired of playing second fiddle to LeBron James in Cleveland.

Irving made his trade request directly to Cavs owner Dan Gilbert.

ESPN is adding that Irving expressed interest in playing for the San Antonio Spurs, New York Knicks, Miami Heat and Minnesota Timberwolves.

As for James — who was reportedly “blindsided and disappointed” upon hearing about Irving’s intentions — he is focused on preparing for the upcoming season regardless of who his teammates are and leading them back to the Finals.

James intends to let the Cavs’ front office and Gilbert take the lead in dealing with Irving’s trade demands.



Irving wanting out of Cleveland doesn’t really make much sense.

While he’s one of the most gifted scorers in the game, Irving doesn’t have the overall skill set and leadership qualities to lead a team as the focal point on offense.

James makes Irving and everyone else on the Cavs look and produce better than they would without him.



It’s clear Irving is letting his ego get the best of him here.

Now that he has a ring on this résumé, Irving wants to revert back to taking 30-plus shots a game and being the leading scorer on a below .500 team — the role he played his first few years in the league before LeBron returned home.

From 2011-14 when Irving was the main guy on the Cavs, Cleveland had a putrid record of 78-152.

http://amicohoops.net/report-lebron-focused-on-training-not-kyrie/

I would be happy with this.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9xodkef

Yeah, I've been thinking about Booker and Bledsoe on this team (not that it means much) but when Phoenix was mentioned as a trade partner, those two guys surfaced.

The sarcasm is not appreciated... :-p

I'd do this one....not sure Portland would though.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycqkqxbx

Have to say I'm disappointed. What is it about Cleveland that this kind of atmosphere has to pervade? Makes no sense to me, you wanna be the guy?

You were the guy and as good as you are we were still at the bottom of the league.

You're all that Kyrie, but you ain't ALL THAT.

But hey, you leaving will free up quite a bit of cap space and I'm sure you'll get us a couple good players or high picks, so thanks for that, and like swish said, thanks for the ring.

If we trade him, I want players. I don't want draft picks. This team is built to win now. I don't wanna take a shot on some hot-shot rookie when we can win now.

The NBA is different than the NFL when it comes to the draft.

I do wonder how much we are being hurt by losing Grif? I know that lead used to bash him, but I think the guy was important to the success of the Cavs.

I wonder how much of the rumors [if they are true] regarding Kyrie and LeBron wanting out have to do w/losing Grif?

Just don't get this at all. If Kyrie thinks Lebron is jetting in a year and wants out now so he doesn't get left behind ... I guess I could understand that. But why not say that then? Make Lebron look like the bad guy? To say you don't want to be second fiddle and you want to be the alpha player again?? Like those few years when Cleveland was basketball Siberia were the best years of your career? Really??

Why does Cleveland have the most dysfunctional sports teams in the US? There must really be something in the water. That said, I guess we are downstream from Detroit.

Maybe we could get Mac on the case? At the very least we could avoid the umpteenth iteration of a Browns' "Front Office" thread in Pure Football.

It's baffling.

Heck, if LeBron does leave next year, wouldn't Kyrie be first fiddle? LOL

The whole thing is just bizarre.

exactly. which means kyrie doesn't believe lebron is going anywhere, and he's probably fed up for whatever reason.

i mean i get it, dude signed the max extension thinking he was gonna be the man, then got blind sided with bron coming back to the land.

i'll miss kyrie's elite handles and finish at the paint.

if he does get traded, what i won't miss is the constant iso ball, low assist numbers, bad defense and overall selfish play.

he was a shooting guard with the title of point guard. ricky rubio was averaging more assist per game.

He could call Kyrie's lawyer and find out the real scoop.

lmao