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So I've got a great friend that I grew up with, graduated HS with and have remained close to all these years.

Today, she wrote me an email...

It's a list of everything she thinks trump has accomplished to date.

I need some help responding to her.

TRUMP in 6 Months:
1.Supreme Court Judge Gorsuch

2.59 missiles dropped in Syria.

3.He took us out of TPP

4.Illegal immigration is now down 70%( the lowest in 17 years)

5.Consumer confidence highest since 2000 at index125.6 6.Mortgage applications for new homes rise to a 7 year high.


7.Arranged 20% Tariff on soft lumber from Canada.

8.Bids for border wall are well underway.

9.Pulled out of the lopsided Paris accord.

10.Keystone pipeline approved.

11.NATO allies boost spending by 4.3%

12.Allowing VA to terminate bad employees.

13.Allowing private healthcare choices for veterans.

14.More than 600,000. Jobs created

15. Median household income at a 7 year high.

16. The Stock Market is at the highest ever In its history.

17. China agreed to American import of beef.

18. $89 Billion saved in regulation rollbacks.

19. Rollback of A Regulation to boost coal mining.

20. MOAB for ISIS

21. Travel ban reinstated.

22. Executive order for religious freedom.

23. Jump started NASA

24. $600 million cut from UN peacekeeping budget.

25. Targeting of MS13 gangs

26. Deporting violent illegal immigrants.

27. Signed 41 bills to date

28. Created a commission on child trafficking 29. Created a commission on voter fraud 30. Created a commission for opioids addiction.

31. Giving power to states to drug test unemployment recipients.

32. Unemployment lowest since may 2007.

33. Historic Black College University initiative 34. Women In Entrepreneurship Act 35. Created an office or illegal immigrant crime victims.

36. Reversed Dodd-Frank

37. Repealed DOT ruling which would have taken power away from local governments for infrastructure planning 38. Order to stop crime against law enforcement.

39. End of DAPA program.

40. Stopped companies from moving out of America.

41. Promoted businesses to create American Jobs.

42. Encouraged country to once again

43. 'Buy American and hire American 44. Cutting regulations 2 for every one created.

45. Review of all trade agreements to make sure they are America first.

46. Apprentice program

47. Highest manufacturing surge in 3 years.

48 $78 Billion promised reinvestment from major businesses like Exxon, Bayer, Apple, SoftBank, Toyota...

49. Denied FBI a new building.

50. $700 million saved with F-35 renegotiation.

51. Saves $22 million by reducing white house payroll.

52. Dept of treasury reports a $182 billion surplus for April 2017 (2nd largest in history.

53. Negotiated the release of 6 US humanitarian workers held captive in egypt.

54. Gas prices lowest in more than 12 years.

55. Signed An Executive Order To Promote Energy Independence And Economic Growth

56. Has already accomplished more to stop government interference into people's lives than any President in the history of America.

57. President Trump has worked with Congress to pass more legislation in his first 100 days than any President since Truman.

58. Has given head executive of each branches 6 month time Frame dated march 15 2017, to trim the fat. restructure and improve efficacy of their branch.

I copied and pasted it just as I got it in an email.

She's admitted to watching only FOX news and Reading Breitbart... So I guess there's no wonder why she thinks like she does..

Recognizing I'll never change her mind and not really trying to, but geez, do they really think that everything they see on those news outlets is true? That would like be believing everything that comes out of CNN or MSNBC... you just can't take their word things

* The DOW daily closing stock market average rose more than 15% since the election on November 8th. (On November 9th the DOW closed at 18,332 – on March 1st the DOW closed at 21,115).
* Since the Inauguration on January 20th the DOW rose 6.5%. (It was at 19,827 at January 20th and reached 21,115 on March 1st.)
* The DOW took just 66 days to climb from 19,000 to above 21,000, the fastest 2,000 point run ever. The DOW closed above 19,000 for the first time on November 22nd and closed above 21,000 on March 1st.
* The DOW closed above 20,000 on January 25th and the March 1st rally matched the fastest-ever 1,000 point increase in the DOW at 24 days.
* The US Stock Market gained $2 trillion in wealth since Trump was elected!
* The S&P 500 broke $20 Trillion for the first time in its history.
* In the history of the DOW, going back to January 1901, the DOW record for most continuous closing high trading days was set in January of 1987 when Ronald Reagan was President. The DOW set closing highs an amazing 12 times in a row that month. On February 28th President Trump matched President Reagan when the DOW reached a new high for its 12th day in a row!

President Trump decreased the US Debt in his first 100 days by $100 Billion. (President Obama increased the US debt in his first 100 days by more than $560 Billion.)

The US Manufacturing Index soared to a 33 year high in this period which were the best numbers since 1983 under President Reagan.

President Trump added 298,000 jobs in his first month alone (after President Obama said jobs were not coming back!).

Housing sales are red-hot. In 2011, houses for sale were on the market an average 84 days. This year, it’s just 45 days.

Illegal immigration is down 67% since President Trump’s Inauguration.

NATO announced Allied spending is up $10 Billion because of President Trump.

After being nominated by President Trump, Constitutionalist Judge Neil Gorsuch was confirmed and sworn in as Supreme Court Justice in early April.

The President has signed 66 executive orders, memoranda and proclamations as of April 19th, including:

* Notifying Congress of a strike on Syria after it was reported that the country used gas on its citizens.
* Dismantling Obama’s climate change initiatives.
* Travel bans for individuals from a select number of countries embroiled in terrorist atrocities.
* Enforcing regulatory reform.
* Protecting Law enforcement.
* Mandating for every new regulation to eliminate two.
* Defeating ISIS.
* Rebuilding the military.
* Building a border wall.
* Cutting funding for sanctuary cities.
* Approving pipelines.
* Reducing regulations on manufacturers.
* Placing a hiring freeze on federal employees.
* Exiting the US from the TPP.

In addition to all this, the President has met with many foreign leaders from across the globe including Xi from China, Abe from Japan, Putin from Russia etc.

The President also pointed out numerous times that the MSM (Main Stream Media) reports only on a made up Russia conspiracy story and ignores these accomplishments. These actions are making the majority of Americans aware of the tremendous bias in the media in the US and abroad. This too is another major Trump accomplishment.

Winning, Winning, Winning!

Hail Caesar.

59 bombs dropped in Syria is considered an accomplishment?

I didn't bother reading the rest.

UPDATE:

That 21,115 DOW is now nipping at 22,000.

And I quit paying attention to Barry the day he was elected. This is why VD's thread while good intentioned will not produce anything. The left is so pissed of all the time that they keep the right pissed and there is no room to talk.

the right was so pissed off all the time when obama was elected.

so sounds to me it's just a reversal right now.

.

Here's how I would reply:


WAKE UP! lol, you can't be serious.

You so easily forget how pissed you were when Gore lost, then Kerry. The rights reaction to Barry was retribution for the lefts behavior from 2000-2008. Now the left wants to triple down on that.

i wasn't aware how pissed i was in 2000 when i was 13 years old. i wasn't aware i was paying attention to politics, then.

yea i think the left had a good reason to be pissed during the bush years.

failing economy, millions of jobs lost, trillion spent between two wars, one which was started under a false narrative.

yea, somehow our behavior was unjustified. the right decided to be pissed by claiming/protesting in the streets that obama was a foreign born muslim, even though he's christian. and you were all good with it.

if you want to generalize, we can generalize, bruh.

The right stays pissed off win or loose. Hell they're still pissed off at Obama and Hillary. They have the WH with the majority of the House and Senate and all they can do is complain about Obamacare and Hillary's personal email while Russia runs roughshod over the Ukraine and Syrian killing refugees and supporting the likes of NK, Iran, and Syria.

Win, loose, tight...doesn't matter.

i'm scared to jump into the grammar jokes cause lord knows i'll get blasted bad lol

Oh No, not again!

If you were not paying attention at 13 (I don't blame you), then you were not paying attention at 5 and 9 which were the Clinton years. War issues aside, most of the Bush economic issues you cited were a result of bad economic policy seeds down during Clinton's time. Politics don't not happen in nice 4 and 8 year bubbles. Bad knee jerk decisions for short term personal gain typically rear their ugly head after you are gone and screw your successor.

But the left does not like hearing that because in the mind everything they think or say is 100% gospel truth and 100% effective and can never ever be wrong.

Addition....the left was pissed at bush day 1 of his term. There was no war. There was no recession. They just anointed him the bastard son of Hitler/Mussolini/Satan/Stalin the day after inauguration. Talk about keeping an open mind!

Exactly, which is why my comments are short and brief for anything past 2004 dealing with politics.

I'm sure you conservatives were writing laws and lynching witches when you was 13, so of course y'all are political experts, but my liberal ass was going through puberty and trying to run game on the ladies with my crackling voice.

Please stop telling me what I already know. But you're going on and on about the other side when your side is just as trash, if not worse.

Granted, I'm a heathen foreigner but I took a poke through that list. I'll give credit where credit is due..There were some good things in there (primarily economically) that Trump has accomplished. Credit where credit is due.

However, there's also two other pieces of the puzzle.... where its something that flat out is NOT good (pulling out of Paris Accord, promoting coal use) and things that have nothing to do with Trump (Price of Gas is down? Eeeerrrmmm....that's market based).

Inside Trump, there is a smart businessman that, if he toned down the rhetoric, paranoia, stubbornness and xenophobia, could be an effective President. However..Trump is gonna Trump and I'd still say smart money is that he doesn't last a full term.

That picture you paint sound exactly like what has happened with ObamaCare.

You mean the Paris Accord, in which pretty much no other country was contributing to? http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/5/paris-climate-agreement-shares-nations-wealth/

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/06/03/o...n-climate-fund/

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2...-climate-accord



Weird. When Bush was president, the lefties all said the price of gas was due to his relationship with big oil. When O was president, he got credit for gas prices going down.

Yet, you're saying a products price is relative to supply and demand? Golly. Welcome to the conservative side.

It took a lot of gull to post that.

Well, I have a big gull bladder.

On a lighter note, I was on vacation last week. I saw many seegalls.

Well, no other country except the 43 others.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Climate_Fund#Sources_of_finance

And that's actually the Green Climate Fund, which was help to transition countries to a reduced GHG profile. The Paris Accord itself was for countries to commit to reduce their overall emissions. So Donald really could have reduced or eliminated funding into the Green Climate Fund but stayed in the accord.

And yes, a commodity's price is market driven. And I've been more on the conservative side for my entire life...although that's Canadian conservative which still makes me just a hair above communist right?

The paris accord was as much garbage as global warming (climate change, whatever). The US was expected to pay for its success, because other countries couldn't get their crap together. Gosh, I'm so sorry some third world garbage pile couldn't find a way to get themselves success, but that isn't the fault of the US.

Right now, Afghanistan could be a 1st world country if they'd start mining their rare earth minerals, but they enjoy being in the stone age. The like it so much, that they destroyed their country to put it back into the stone age.

LOL Perhaps some were, but I voted for Bush twice So I was pretty happy.

ok, o5 shamed me.

Wow...

Which one?

Nice little graph there.

$3 billion from the u.s.

$1.5 billion from Japan. (and something I didn't/don't understand: $4 billion from the e.u., but then it lists Germany, france, etc)

Anyway, where's Russia, India, China, etc.?

I've tried to write a meaningful reply 3 times and nothing sticks. Then I realize its because you've written nothing of substance to respond to.

Thanks. Whatcha figure the GHG intensity is of the US vs Japan? Double? Nyyyyaaaaah probably a smidge more. Let's find out

2013 numbers mind you.... They popped up first.

US 6279 megatonnes
Japan 1353 megatonnes

So the US is actually producing more than 4 times the amount of Japan. So is Japan an overachiever or was the US cheaping out?

Where's Russia, China and India? Great question. They're not there...by all right they should...as should every country who is a signatory. But I guess the question is does US want to justify action by comparing itself to China or India? Or does the country want to lead the way?

The US that many seem to be proud of is a leader to the world. A country that uses its power, its economy and its status to advance the world. That's the one I'm a fan of.

But hey...I guess the new idea is if Russia, China and India aren't, then the US can too.

I was happy to vote for Bush in 2000 and again on 2004 but I gotta tell you, shortly after I voted in 2004, I began to have serious questions on if I did the right thing.

Then after the mess he left behind, I just didn't want another conservative in office. McCain made me question that. I really like that guy a lot. But in the end, picking Palin and then the fiasco over the market drop made my mind up for me.

I never lost respect for McCain, not once, but I did loose the ability to vote for him...

But then what do you expect of me, I voted for Reagan twice and Bush (hw) once.

You are a staunch Republican.

Might have been a reason to be pissed at the end, but not in the middle.. I've said this 100 times and I'll say it again...

Bush inherited a recession from Clinton, 8 months in we had 9/11.. the economy struggled for a couple years for reasons which were not Bush's fault.. then the economy recovered and we had 5 very solid years of economic and job growth.. then the housing bubble collapsed.. if the housing bubble (which wasn't really a Bush creation either) had held out another year, his economy would have been seen as extremely strong.. and Obama could have owned the housing collapse.

So stop with this BS narrative that we had 8 horrible economic years under Bush, it's 100% false.

I was certainly a critic of Bush. I'm sure you remember. lol

My biggest issue with him was the war in Iraq. Mainly because it seemed to me that the intel he chose to show our nation in support of the war seemed to be cherry picked. PDR and I both introduced intel from some of our allies that completely contradicted the intel shown in support of the war.

So much so that we didn't believe there was enough evidence one way or the other to support the tons of several different WMD materials that the Bush Administration claimed. Many of our allies felt the same way. That's why we had much less support in the war with Iraq than we did in the gulf war under his fathers leadership.

All presidents make mistakes, but this one was a doozy. All presidents look to their advisors for direction and have to put faith in those who surround them. I just wish in this case that a little more prudence had been exercised.

Outside of the Iraq war, I would much rather see him in the White House right now than the mess we are seeing.

Having an issue with the way we went to war with Iraq is certainly something somebody can do.. whether he had bad intel, or whether he just listened to the wrong advisers, or whether he just outright lied... all things worthy of discussion..

But I have and will continue to respond to this false narrative the economy was all bad under Bush...

That's an assertion that I certainly won't make. The market is far more responsible than the president in most cases for the economy. It was the tech bubble and the mortgage bankers that hold the biggest responsibility for the impact on the economy along with 9/11 during the Bush tears.

Did I say we had 8 bad years of economics under bush?

You're the one making false statements right now, not me. Practice what you freaking preach.

Also, it's not false whatsoever to place part of the blame on Bush. his tax cuts didn't help matters one bit. the cost of the war didn't help our situation out one bit.

you trying to absolve Bush of all responsibility of the economy that crashed under his watch is laughable. but then got the nerve to say i'm making false statements?