DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Palus Politicus Can we all agree there is no Collusion?

A friend emailed me this the other day - I thought it was worth sharing. No doubt it'll make some of you smile.

After almost a year of an investigation of collusion, can we all agree that there was no collusion?

Answered Jul 21
"I don’t know – it’s hard for me to see any trump ties to Russia…except for the Flynn thing and the Manafort thing
and the Tillerson thing
and the Sessions thing
and the Kushner thing
and the Carter Page thing
and the Ivanka hanging with the oligarchs thing
and the Roger Stone thing
and the Felix Sater thing
and the Boris Ephsteyn thing
and the Rosneft thing
and the Gazprom thing
and the Sergey Gorkov banker thing
and the Azerbajain thing
and the “I love Putin” thing
and the Donald Trump, Jr. thing
and the Sergey Kislyak thing
and the Russian Affiliated Interests thing
and the Russian Business Interests thing
and the Emoluments Clause thing
and the Alex Schnaider thing
and the hack of the DNC thing
and the Guccifer 2.0 thing
and the Mike Pence “I don’t know anything” thing
and the Russians mysteriously dying thing
and the Trump’s public request to Russia to hack Hillary’s email thing
and the Trump house sale for $100 million at the bottom of the housing bust to the Russian fertilizer king thing
and the Russian fertilizer king’s plane showing up in Concord, NC during Trump rally campaign thing
and the Nunes sudden flight to the White House in the night thing
and the Nunes personal investments in the Russian winery thing
and the Cyprus bank thing
and Trump not releasing his tax returns thing
and the Republican Party’s rejection of an amendment to require Trump to show his taxes thing
and the election hacking thing
and the GOP platform change to the Ukraine thing
and the Steele Dossier thing
and the Leninist Bannon thing
and the Sally Yates can’t testify thing
and the intelligence community’s investigative reports thing
and the Trump reassurance that the Russian connection is all “fake news” thing
and the Spicer’s Russian Dressing “nothing’s wrong” thing
and the Chaffetz not willing to start an investigation thing
and the Chaffetz suddenly deciding to go back to private life in the middle of an investigation thing
and the The Lead DOJ Investigator Mary McCord SUDDENLY in the middle of the investigation decides to resign thing
and the appointment of Pam Bondi who was bribed by trump in the trump university scandal appointed to head the investigation thing
and the The White House going into full-on cover-up mode, refusing to turn over the documents related to the hiring and subsequent firing of Flynn thing
and the Chaffetz and White House blaming the poor vetting of Flynn on Obama thing

and the Poland and British intelligence gave information regarding the hacking back in 2015 to Paul Ryan and he didn't do anything thing
and the Agent M16 following the money thing
And now the trump team KNEW about Flynn's involvement but hired him anyway thing
and The Corey Lewendowski thing
and the Preet Bharara firing thing but before he left he transferred evidence against trump to a state level Schneiderman thing
And the Betsy Devos' Brother thing
And the Sebastian Gorka thing
And the Greg Gianforte from Montana thing
And the pence actually was warned about Flynn before he was hired thing
and the Pence and Manafort connection thing
And the 7 Allies coming forward with audio where trump was picked up in incidental wire tapping thing
and the carter Page defying the Senate's order to hand over his Russian contact list thing
and the Obama coming forward and sayin he warned trump directly thing

And the trump wants to VETO Sally Yates' testimony thing
and the trump tweets attacking Yates and defending Flynn thing
and the "no evidence of collusion" attributed to Clapper, who never said such a thing, thing.
and the amnesia epidemic that hit every member of the Inner circle when it comes to remembering meetings with Russians thing.
and the "18" days before Flynn was fired thing
and the witness intimidation through tweets thing
and the McGahn "Why does it matter to the DOJ if one White House official lies to another official?" thing
and firing Comey thing!
and the temporary FBI head, McCabe, being also under investigation thing
and the banning the US press but allowing the Russian press to the Russian ambassador Oval Office meeting thing!
and the Certified Letter thing!
and the threatening Comey thing!
and the firing of Comey thing!
and the I respect the investigation but it is a witch hunt and no president has been so persecuted thing!
and the Kushner back door thing!
and the appointing Christopher Wray, as head of the FBI, whos law firm represented the trump organization and has ties to Rosneft and Gasprom Russian organizations! Yea that thing.
and the blaming Obama for the Russian hacking that a week before he called a hoax and witch hunt!
and the Kushner/ trump jr meeting with Russia's top propagandist Natalia Veselnitskaya thing.
and Peter Smith who actually colluded with Flynn thing
And trump and Tillerson meeting privately with Putin thing.
And trump allowing VISAs to 150 known Russian spys thing.
And trump offering to work with Putin on a cyber security thing.
And the Natalia Veselnitskaya having dinner with a republican congressman after "the meeting" thing.

SO yeah there’s probably nothing there!"

https://www.quora.com/After-almost-a-yea...as-no-collusion

You forgot to mention the Proof Thang.
You know, the evidence of Trumps collusion with the Russians to get himself elected thingy.

You forgot to mention that.
Again.

No I didn't forget anything. I cut a paste.


Odd that you want proof - On the Rich Seth thing you listed a bunch of events that proved less than nothing and thought that was good enough to label Clinton's as guilty .... c'est la vie

And you've forgotten it took almost 2 years to get the goods on Nixon. Remember, back then, there was no internet, no email, no sophisticated equipment to eves drop.

Evidence is what they are gathering. Mueller is a top shelf guy. Best in the business. You better hope that he didn't collude, cause if he did, Mueller will find it.

My guess is that Flynn is talking and soon others will begin. Eventually, the pieces will fall into place.

Hi 40 .. how u doing bud? .. i hope all is well and your holding up against the libs ... I'd like to ad some adjectives but I'VE suspended myself from this forum cause I couldn't refrain from using adjectives when engaged with them .. i couldn't stay out of the gutter so i suspended myself ... not sure if i will ever come back other than to say hi to U and wish u well in your .... well .... I'm not quite sure what it is your doing ... *L* ...

GO GET UM 40 ... u got the FACTS on your side ...

It is always good to hear from you Diam, its not often that common sense comes along these days.

I continue to post the facts which completely lets the air out of their fake news sails. It doesn't change anyone's mind but at least the facts get heard.

Now I gots to get back to my bulldozer and plow their mountains back down to the molehills they are.

Trump is still in office even a few hundred days since OCD said it was the end, they got him (daily).

DIP DIP DIP

The best part bro ... the next time there right about Trump will be the first time ... *LOL* ..

About once a month or so I go watch all the clips starting from before he announced saying that him running was a joke .. my favorite from that time frame was the one dude that said ... "DO IT, JUST DO IT ... WE WANT U TO RUN" .. everytime i watch that clip it reminds me to watch what i ask for ...

They been WRONG every step of the way ... every day is a slice of heaven with the Trumpster ... it'd be nice of he quit tripping over his Johnson ... but i accepted long ago just like with everything else in life ... u have to accept the bad with the good ...

If the house and senate keep doing what ther doing ... the trumpster will win in a landslide again .... especially if they give him his tax breaks and he's all ready bringing back jobs ...

Have fun with your american made bulldozer and i hope u enjoy plowing cause theres lots of it to be done ...

GO 40 ... GO DONALD ....

#MAGA ...

As he should.

And if he (Mueller) doesn't, I would guess some people on here will be upset.

This is a shame. IMHO one of the best posters on this board....

Wow. All those accusations, and they can't find a single piece of evidence. This Trump guy must be a genius to be able to hide all of that.

How do you know that these investigations don't have any evidence? Have they completed them and made a report? You may be guessing they don't and saying they don't, but you have no idea just like I don't.

Yet there has been a continuous stream of lies from this administration on anything involving Russia since day one. Why is that? Do innocent people go around lying over and over and over again when they're innocent?

Well they tried Dictator, Nazi, Collusion, Obstruction and Mental Illness so it may come down to the old planting of Meth in his Limo.

Patience Patience....we have a ongoing investigation to wrap up. And there is still that pesky drip.... drip..... drip.... leaking out of the WH everyday.

The WH has more leaks than a week old Depends. If there was something to this, the 'evidence' would be out by now.

You know...like I do...that a lot of people have already drawn their conclusions one way or the other. The misinformation and the new information we receive from the White House has been concerning.

However, if the investigation turns up with nothing and they actually address all concerns, I think we need to move on.

Some of the evidence is Jr. admitting that their Russian meeting was to get dirt on Hillary. The Potus getting caught in lies and helping to compose false and misleading statements to the American public. Kushner lying on Nat'l security forms, which is a felony, then being allowed to revise them???. Not once but 3 times??? I love how you guys say "no evidence" when tons of it is piling up.

Besides not all of the Trump's campaign officials who attended the Hillary collusion meeting with the Russians have testified under oath just yet. Gotta have patience, they're still working on it.

Agreed...

And if the investigation turns up evidence that Trump's campaign officials meet/colluded with Russian operatives to help change the outcome of the election?

BUT he hasn't been charged with a crime! NO CRIME!

I mean he might be committing a new crime every few hours but he hasn't been charged so it's not illegal, therefore there is no crime!

Just fall in line like a good minion and worship him with us!

~smdh

WAKE UP GOP! TIME. TIME WILL TELL. Until the investigation ends, stfu with your BS excuses for Donald Lies-a-lot Trump.

Well, until the investigation ends, quit harping about him being guilty. That'd be a hell of a place for you to start.

Then there will be a crap storm and hell to pay...I hope. I intended to infer that point when I responded to Pit.

And so do I.

Happy Birthday!

Thanks buddy! 34 years young.

I gots underwear older than you-

Ha you've been wearing them since '64 right? Waiting on that next Browns championship.

All I'm going to say is, if Clem has been wearing his underwear since 1964, he definitely has a brown championship.

I thought the post by whoever wrote it was funny.

It's tongue in cheek.

There is no proof of anything yet - well that's not true... There is proof that multiple key players all lied or "miss-remembered" all their contacts with the Ruskies .... and then there is that email chain Jr was forced to release because of the NYT. They don't prove a crime but they are factual.

And while there is no proof yet - it surely to god does NOT mean there will be none and it equally does not mean there will be some.

I agree we need to sit back and wait for the investigation to run it's course. But seriously - every week there is new "stuff" - that simply adds to the list of facts that we know/hear about that just don't sit right. And I certainly think each new layer is free game to be discussed.

I actually hope Trump is not guilty of anything other than being belligerent. I don't want a scandal that involves POTUS. But I do sincerely believe there will be some significant fall out with some people close to Trump (Manafort and Flynn for example - heck Jr may fall on the sword too). . . . Some might think that makes Trump guilty by association - but if Mueller doesn't go there, then I will accept it.

I am a law abiding citizen, no record of any kind, no speeding tickets, cleared by an FBI background check and cleared by the County Sheriffs office.

But if I had a bunch of high priced Democrat Lawyers investigating my life I bet they could find something to hang me with.

Probably as good a place as any to drop this:

http://www.hannity.com/content/2017-08-0...to-their-faces/

Watch. Ignore the source of the video if you want - it says CNN. These words were spoken.

Brilliant woman, couldn't have said it better myself!

Greg Andres is the 16th lawyer to be added to Mueller’s team. He worked under Eric ‘Fast N’ Furious’ Holder from 2010 to 2012.

If I didn't know better it sounds like Collusion, to get Trump.

Here is a look at the 15 other attorneys who will investigate Trump.

Rush Atkinson, an attorney on detail from the Criminal Division’s Fraud Section at the Department of Justice
— Donated $200 to Clinton in 2016

Peter Carr – DOJ spokesman under Barack Obama.
Andrew Goldstein, a public corruption prosecutor on detail from the U.S. Attorney’s Office in the Southern District of New York
— Worked under Trump-basher Preet Bharara in the liberal New York southern district.

Adam Jed, an appellate attorney on detail from DOJ’s Civil Division.
—  Defended Obamacare at the DOJ.

Rober Mueller – Special Counsel Team leader.
— Best friend to fired leaker James Comey.

Lisa Page, an attorney on detail from the FBI’s Office of the General Counsel and a former trial attorney with the Criminal Division’s Organized Crime and Gang Section
—  Investigated Ukrainian oligarch Dmitry Firtash, a one-time business partner of former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort, at the DOJ.

Elizabeth Prelogar, an appellate attorney on detail from the Office of the Solicitor General.
–Fluent in Russian; former law clerk to Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Elena Kagan.

James Quarles, a former partner at WilmerHale and a former assistant special prosecutor for the Watergate Special Prosecution Force.
–Former assistant special prosecutor on the Watergate Special Prosecution Force.

Jeannie Rhee, a former partner at WilmerHale who has served in the Office of Legal Counsel at DOJ and as an assistant U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia.
— Rhee is a Clinton Foundation Lawyer and former Deputy Assistant Attorney General in the Office of Legal Counsel under Barack Obama.

Brandon Van Grack, an attorney on detail from the Justice Department’s National Security Division.
— Led a grand jury inquiry in Northern Virginia scrutinizing former Trump associate Michael Flynn’s foreign lobbying.

Andrew Weissmann, who is on detail from the Criminal Division’s Fraud Section and who has served as general counsel at the FBI and as an assistant U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York.
— Weissmann donated $2,300 to the Obama Victory Fund in 2008, $2,000 to the DNC in 2006 and at least $2,300 to the Clinton campaign in 2007.

Aaron Zebley, a former partner at WilmerHale who has previously served with Mueller at the FBI and has served as an assistant U.S. attorney in the Eastern District of Virginia.
— Worked with Robert Mueller at the WilmerHale firm.

These other Mueller attorneys have less conspicuous political leanings:

Aaron Zelinsky, an attorney on detail from the U.S. Attorney’s Office in the District of Maryland.
— Worked under Assistant AG Rod Rosenstein in Maryland.

Zainab Ahmad, a top national security prosecutor on detail from U.S. Attorney’s Office in the Eastern District of New York.

Michael Dreeben, an appellate attorney on detail from the Office of the Solicitor General, described by former colleagues as one of the brightest criminal law experts of the past two generations.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/08/...-investigation/

It's laughable....no bias whatsoever. What's even more laughable is the ignorance of people believing Trump colluded. Hell, Putin just said Trump was a puppet (paraphrasing)to congress.

Stop trying to infringe on my constitutional right to free speech. I can disagree, display outrage, draw my own conclusions, and generally rip Trump anytime I choose to do so! NOT Murica but America, remember?

LOGIC in the basket.

You have nose hairs older than him too.

That is clearly a biased article, but I can see some concerns, especially with the previous campaign contributions.

For some, though, it looks like they were probably just doing their job under the previous administration.

For instance, Adam Jed, who defended Obamacare in the appellate courts...I'm pretty sure that's his job regardless of what administration passed what law.

I say forget collusion, its a dead issue even tho it will drag on for some.

The place to focus now is Obstruction of Justice.
We know the President tried to help keep his friend Flynn out of more trouble since he felt firing him was enough.

That is the molehill we need to build on to get Trump.
Perhaps he appealed to people other than Comey.
It should leak any day now.