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A few things to note:

- WR position has Coleman, Britt, Higgins, Louis, Boyce, and Leslie as top 6 ... Hall, Payton are next 2

- Njoku is listed as #3 TE

- Coleman is listed as RT

- X Cooper is last on the list at DT (Brantley injured)

- Taylor listed ahead of McCourty at CB

- Pryor is listed as our #5 Safety, behind Peppers and Justin Curie??

- Parkey is listed as the #1 K


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I guess the strip balls and etc really has Hue grumbled with Njoku.

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Thats pretty good.
I would think that the rookie DT's and Drango would make the cuts, meaning that there are some listed as second team that would have to be cut on those respective lines.

Then I think that the Saftey position is far too permature to speculate this early on imo.


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Marcus Martin over Spencer Drango is a bit of a surprise to me.


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Originally Posted By: Pdawg
Marcus Martin over Spencer Drango is a bit of a surprise to me.


Yeah, I could see two of either Martin, Reiter or Greco < Drango.

Martin and Greco can play center/gaurd.

Reiter is probably best suited at center.

I look for us to keep nine on the OL and Johnson will be a work in progress and probably inactive mostly, so we will have him and Erving at OT, leaving Drango and possibly only one more of the three list above.

Probably the hardest cuts will come on the DL assuming both of rookie DT's make the team...Meder or Coley or both would have to be sacrificed. Orchard is on the bubble as well.

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I think you might be reading/interpreting the depth chart wrong?

I think it means Peppers is the back-up to Kindred/3rd safety on the depth chart.

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From what I read about Coley, it's gonna be hard to shove him off the roster


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Originally Posted By: edromeo
I think you might be reading/interpreting the depth chart wrong?

I think it means Peppers is the back-up to Kindred/3rd safety on the depth chart.
Yeah, that's what I implied at least. Peppers/Currie are the backups ... Pryor is 5


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Originally Posted By: edromeo
I think you might be reading/interpreting the depth chart wrong?

I think it means Peppers is the back-up to Kindred/3rd safety on the depth chart.


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Reading comprehension fail on my part, my apologies I thought Pepper's when you wrote Pryor.

I'm not surprised though that Pryor is listed as the 5th safety right now. he has the most playing experience of the safeties on the roster so preseason reps are more important for the other guys then for him a comparatively known quantity

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Only one rookie "starting." It's Myles Garrett. That is a far cry from last year.

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From what I read about Coley, it's gonna be hard to shove him off the roster


Especially with the praise from his team mates and coach's...I think that we could keep 6 DT's to start the season.


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From what I read about Coley, it's gonna be hard to shove him off the roster


Especially with the praise from his team mates and coach's...I think that we could keep 6 DT's to start the season.
Cooper might be an odd man out. Brantley, unless he's stashed on the IR, and Ogunjobi should be safe bets IMO. And Coley has gotten rotations with the 1's, so that's a sign he'll make it too.


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I'm not sure we can take much from this lineup based on Hue's comments about wanting to try different things.

Then again, who knows


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It is interesting for the moment. Injuries dictated bunch of depth last year. I don't react to this much at this point. Want to see some RT for myself. Still, looks more solid this year without all the green wood out there.


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Originally Posted By: Pdawg
Originally Posted By: edromeo
I think you might be reading/interpreting the depth chart wrong?

I think it means Peppers is the back-up to Kindred/3rd safety on the depth chart.


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I guess the strip balls and etc really has Hue grumbled with Njoku.


The kid is 20 and very raw...as long as he progresses...I think he will start hitting his prime in 2019 as a stud in the NFL.

My biggest surprise is that Telfer is the starting TE over Devalve. I was looking forward to see Brock throw to Devalve instead of Holtz. I don't get it unless they want Devalve out there for Kessler as a release valve which Kessler has to learn...after 2 seconds if his prime reads are covered...hit the check down!
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I guess the strip balls and etc really has Hue grumbled with Njoku.


The kid is 20 and very raw...as long as he progresses...I think he will start hitting his prime in 2019 as a stud in the NFL.

My biggest surprise is that Telfer is the starting TE over Devalve. I was looking forward to see Brock throw to Devalve instead of Holtz. I don't get it unless they want Devalve out there for Kessler as a release valve which Kessler has to learn...after 2 seconds if his prime reads are covered...hit the check down!
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The first thing Hue said when asked about Telfer is "he's a blocker" so... I think that answers that. lol...

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DeValue will be on the field with the ones.
Telfer is our only true inline blocker, so him being listed as a starter should be of little surprise, being that the traditional position is an extension of the OL. Though Holtz can play there too. The question then becomes a numbers question of keeping 4 TE's or 3.


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I look for this to be a very ball control offense
Hue knows this offense cannot afford to get into a run and gun game against the likes of the Steelers Bengals and expect to win
Run the ball eat the clock and let the young defense take over in the 4th quarter

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Originally Posted By: Iluvmyxstripper
I look for this to be a very ball control offense
Hue knows this offense cannot afford to get into a run and gun game against the likes of the Steelers Bengals and expect to win
Run the ball eat the clock and let the young defense take over in the 4th quarter
If that's the case, we better hope that Brock's accuracy is very good and the WRs timing/route running is precise


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Crowell is the best skill player on the offense period
Make him the identity of the offense mych how the Seahawks did Lynch
Get Brock into manageable 3rd down conversions move the chains control cLock

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If the OL plays up to the talent level and Crow is the RB we think he can be then the blueprint for the offense and team we should be is out there.


The defense has to be able to do its part and a ball control offense lends them a huge assist.

The running game becomes the focal point of the offense. It is used to incrementally move the ball, control the clock and score points (and produce chunk plays via playaction passing game).

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If they smart on offense they will attempt the following

Uptempo offense at times
Bubble screens
Lots of combo routes
Screen passes to the RBS and TES
Put Johnson in motion alot
Alot of high % throws by Osweiler.

Zeitler always graded out as a better run blocker than pass blocker in Cincy
I can see Crowell running behind him alot

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Only one rookie "starting." It's Myles Garrett. That is a far cry from last year.


Not too far a cry. Only two rookies were listed as starters this time last year....

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Originally Posted By: Milk Man
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Only one rookie "starting." It's Myles Garrett. That is a far cry from last year.


Not too far a cry. Only two rookies were listed as starters this time last year....

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I meant the end of the season last. I believe we had more rookies take snaps than any team ever (or something similar).

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Agreed.

They should use Johnson/Njoku in motion to force the defense to (somewhat) declare coverage.

Then when they catch them in vulnerable defense then go uptempo and to keep them in it.

Would also feature angle routes (texas,china etc) of the backfield for Johnson.

Get the TEs on seam routes (Kizer throws those well)

depending on the QB stop routes (hitches, comebacks) vs in-stride routes (drags, crossers)

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I think that JC Tretter could prove to be the best bang for our dollar out of this years FA.

Though he got flagged for a penalty 15 yards down field in the inter squad scrimmage, the fact that we have a center 'again' who can get to the second level is a great sign.


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I think that JC Tretter could prove to be the best bang for our dollar out of this years FA.

Though he got flagged for a penalty 15 yards down field in the inter squad scrimmage, the fact that we have a center 'again' who can get to the second level is a great sign.
His health is obviously the main concern, but I tend to agree. Heck, even Reiter was a BIG improvement over Erving (albeit for one half). With a legit Center, our OL should look way better


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Originally Posted By: Iluvmyxstripper

Run the ball eat the clock and let the young defense take over in the 4th quarter


This implies the belief that the defense won't get overrun in the first 3 quarters.


Browns is the Browns

... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.

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Nate Orchard running with the 3s and cannot get wins vs. Zach Sterup. Zero bend or creativity inline, needs space to create


not good for Orchard


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I'm Stoked that Marcus Martin is on the team, finally a backup center, and at home in the guard positions. A guy with about a good year of starts. It's been a few months since I've read up on Martin, but I couldn't see why he wasn't the starter instead of Trettor. I just think the team "might" be better with Martin on it,
And one of the reasons, if I recall correctly, was thinking, if Martin is on the team, then, with any 1 OL injury, there would be somebody to plug and play backup, there wouldn't be a need to move someone over, and replace them, not a 3 different pieces because of one guy out scenario.


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Crowell is the best skill player on the offense period


I'd say Duke Johnson is probably the right answer on that one, but the opportunites for "the best skilled position player on this offense period;" do abound.


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Nate Orchard running with the 3s and cannot get wins vs. Zach Sterup. Zero bend or creativity inline, needs space to create


not good for Orchard


I predicted Nate to be on the cutting block when cuts come around...

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Nate Orchard running with the 3s and cannot get wins vs. Zach Sterup. Zero bend or creativity inline, needs space to create


not good for Orchard


I predicted Nate to be on the cutting block when cuts come around...
Reading the tea leaves, it seems like Cooper and Orchard


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Cooper's explosive burst was never harnessed, maybe because there was just nothing to harness thereafter it.

We'll see, preseason can make a name for yourself, but I doubt either of those two players will be here when the final 53 is announced.

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not to mention Coley's emergence


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
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Nate Orchard running with the 3s and cannot get wins vs. Zach Sterup. Zero bend or creativity inline, needs space to create


not good for Orchard


I always considered him a longshot to make the team.

Also, this is why we stink. Orchard was drafted in the second round in 2015 and he is already in danger of being cut. We whiff on so many of those picks. In that same draft we took Cam Erving (19 overall) and Xavier Cooper (96 overall).

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I don't think Farmer took his job very seriously.


LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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