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You may wish to look at that post. The response was directed to me.



Hopefully you can understand the obvious confusion?

Not really ... but its no biggie bro ... I've made bigger mistakes ... *L* ..

Please take this over there ...

Thank u sir ...

Just so u know .. people break laws on a daily basis .... i found this rather interesting ... but I'm sure none of them are ILLEGALS ...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/08/...dults-democrat/

10 of 11 California Counties With More Registered Voters than Voting Age Adults Are Democrat

Jim Hoft Aug 6th, 2017 3:20 pm 664 Comments

There are eleven counties in California with more registered voters than voting age adults in the county.

Ten of the Eleven counties voted for Hillary Clinton.

The counties include San Francisco, Los Angeles and San Diego.

Judicial Watch, a conservative watchdog organization, has sent a letter to California Secretary of State Alex Padilla on behalf of the Election Integrity Project, noting that there are 11 counties in the state with more registered voters, and alleging that the state may be out of compliance with Section 8 of the National Voter Registration Act (NVRA).
The letter reads, in part:

NVRA Section 8 requires states to conduct reasonable list maintenance so as to maintain an accurate record of eligible voters for use in conducting federal elections.1 As you may know, Congress enacted Section 8 of the NVRA to protect the integrity of the electoral process. Allowing the names of ineligible voters to remain on the voting rolls harms the integrity of the electoral process and undermines voter confidence in the legitimacy of elections.
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As the top election official in California, it is your responsibility under federal law to coordinate California’s statewide effort to conduct a program that reasonably ensures the lists of eligible voters are accurate.

Judicial Watch lays out the specifics: “[T]here were more total registered voters than there were adults over the age of 18 living in each of the following eleven (11) counties: Imperial (102%), Lassen (102%), Los Angeles (112%), Monterey (104%), San Diego (138%), San Francisco (114%), San Mateo (111%), Santa Cruz (109%), Solano (111%), Stanislaus (102%), and Yolo (110%).” The letter notes that the percentage in L.A. Country may be as high as 144%.

In June California Secretary of State Alex Padilla told the Trump administration the state will not cooperate with the election integrity commission because it would “only serve to legitimize the false and already debunked claims of massive voter fraud.”

question: is that due to illegal immigration, or is that a voting registration error?

example: if somebody moves to a different county or state, they aren't automatically deregistered in the state/county that they left.

so while there are very FEW cases of double voting, the reality is that the number of registered voters typically doesn't line up with the actual number of people voting.

i think that can be a very easy fix for the state to handle.

I'm one of them ... *L* ... just moved to SC but am still registered in NY ...

I'm sure some of its dead people also ....

I'm sure some of its illegals ...

The question there is the %'s ...

Wish i had a better answer but i don't think anyone really knows ....

Honestly ... i don't really care what the %'s are ... i just want this stuff cleaned up in all areas ... it can't be that hard ....

I'm a ... let's figure out the problem and move forward with the solution .. type of guy ... i love history ... but for me the main "benifit" of it is to learn from it ... not to point fingers and assign blame ... unless there's been laws broken and folks need to be punished ...

What really scares me here ... is the fact u don't have to prove who u are or where u live in many counties/states ...

ANYONE know who makes the laws for voter registration and then what happens when someone actually gets to their voting place? ... is that a county/city, state or federal thing? ...

This is another area IMO we need major reform ... we may squabble on the specifics .. but i believe we can agree that this needs to be cleaned up ...

Another thing ... i bet this isn't just isolated to those cali counties ... i bet its very rampant throughout the country ... it only makes sense ...

Wish i could find some comparative numbers ...

Regardless ... it needs to get cleaned up IMO ...

oh i agree it needs to be cleared up, and on the surface it seems like a really simple solution for the states to come up with.

it's why i support automatic registration/deregistration of all adult citizens when they move in/move out to different states/counties.

that would put a severe dent into that issue.

J/C
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli...ion/555769001/#

A poll found that 52% of people who identify as or lean Republican said they would support postponing the 2020 election to ensure that only eligible citizens could vote if it was proposed by President Trump.

The survey, conducted by two academics and published in the Washington Post on Thursday, interviewed a sample of 1,325 Americans from June 5-20 and focused on the 650 people who said they were or leaned toward the GOP.

The poll also found that 56% said they would support such action — which would be taken to stop alleged voter fraud — if it was supported by both Trump and Republican members of Congress.

Trump has created a "voter integrity" commission to look at what he perceives as fraud in the U.S. election system. The commission met for the first time last month.

Still, it's important to note that no Republican politician, including the president, has actually suggested this.

I understand that people break laws everyday, but we have laws in place, just enforce them.

That's a pretty weak reason to take the stand you've taken

Are you saying I want voter fraud cleaned up (witch means illegals and dead people can't vote) because people break the law everyday? ...

It sounds like thats what u just said .. hopefully I mis-understood ... it makes no sense ...

I do believe all people who vote should be able to show ID and be a registered voter.

I agree ,but what is really puzzleing to me is how is this a racist thing

The attitude with those people is it is always a racist thing.

Yeah, you missed it. I'm saying, that saying people break laws all the time shouldn't be used to verify or prove a point about illegals voting.

Best thing for law enforcement is to enforce the laws that are on the books.

But I truly suspect that all this voter fraud bruhaha is a product of the Trump machine. Not saying it doesn't happen, but I doubt it happened any more or less than it has in prior years..

I agree. But federal voting ID's should then be free and distributed to all U.S. citizens that are eligible to register to vote free of charge. Many American elderly citizens of all races not just blacks have no birth certificates and can't easily get ID's. This needs to remedied before restricting voters to just those with ID's.

Blaaa, Blaaa, Blaaa.....bus rides should be free as well, but they aren't.

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My guess is most seniors have a valid ID. Really, everybody needs a ID. It's pretty basic.

I don't get the Bruhaha. Honestly, I don't remember a time where I didn't have to show at least a valid Drivers License to prove who I am. Then they check a book to see if I'm a registered voter..

I don't know what they would/could/should do if my name isn't in that book. it's always been there so no reason not to let me vote.

Is it different elsewhere?

The beef is people having to have a picture ID to vote.

It somehow violates civil rights and discriminates against minorities.


Both you and I need one but they somehow don't to register.

One thing that most people don't like to mention about illegals. The great majority actually work for a living instead of putting their hand out and complaining about how terrible our country is.

I agree. Mexican's are a hard working people, unlike some in this country.


I don't agree with kicking those that are here out. I'd rather kick some of the others out.

Jamestown was one of our earliest settlements. John Smith said:



While I am more empathetic than John Smith, I understand the message.

It galls me that so many people don't work, live off of the government's assistance [which means people like us pay,] and yet they still complain about how "unfair" things are in this country.

Pffftttttttttttttt.................

Yes, I've heard that before. Can't verify it, but did hear it

My friend who works the polls here in Aurora Ohio for every election hasn't ever complained about so maybe it's not an everywhere problem, just some places. Dunno

I'd be fine with picture IDs if they were provided by the government to everyone. DMVs are not reliable, accessible or common enough for a healthy amount of the population. There's been many articles about the inconveniences of the DMV to disenfranchised people who live in rural communities and innercity people who do not have transportation. DMVs are not Wal Marts. Besides, we all hate the DMV, it'd be silly to make everyone go there to get a photo ID. Could you imagine the lines?

I think a state i.d. is valid for 4 years? At least, here in Ohio. The cost is, if I remember correctly, $7.50?

Besides, without an i.d., how are these people going to the bank, buying sudafed, getting prescriptions, etc?

I've said it before, I'll say it again: When I go to vote, the ladies working at the polling station greet me by name. Then, they ask for my i.d.

I know, I'm in a rural area, but so what?

Paying for a state ID to vote? Doesn't that conceptually ring as a poll tax. Also look up problems with the DMV. It's crazy. They're open less than a bar in a dry town. Adding barriers of entry to a right really defeats the whole idea of a 'right'.

$7.50 for a ID that's good for 4 years. WTF Everybody can afford them and everybody has access to them. Stop crying

Guess I don't know. If there's a bar in a dry town, the owner of said bar seriously miscalculated, don't you think?

Poll tax? I don't think so. Unless these people that you are speaking of never have any need for an i.d., like, getting prescriptions, or buying certain OCD meds, or banking, or going to the welfare office, or any other myriad of things we need i.d.'s for.

I have to have an i.d., and it costs me a lot more than $7.50 every 4 years. (and if I have that number wrong, forgive me).

NOT having an i.d. to vote - doesn't that ring of huge ability to cheat the system?

Violating rights? Far from it.

Problems with the DMV? Well, it IS a gov't. organization. I have to go through it. If I want to drive, that is. Or vote. Or buy sudafed. Or bank.

I don't know how cities are, but around here, we have Sr. Services places that give rides for just exactly what you are talking about. Plus.

Who is crying? Just pointing out to you what a right is. Especially with all the issues of the DMV, that none of ya'll have addressed. Logistically the plan is a dumpster fire.

My bad. The cost rose exponentially.

http://www.dmv.org/oh-ohio/id-cards.php

Issues with the DMV LMAO what issues. You show up, you take a number, then you do your business when your number is called. Even Trump can understand and figure that out LOL

There's DMVs that are literally open twice a month in many places. Not to many rural locations have their closest DMVs 60+ miles away. Stop crying about imaginary voter fraud. You think your great grandpa voted with photo IDs? Don't add to the bureaucratic nightmare.

I grew up in small town USA DMV's were 25 miles away. I believe my great grandparents, my grandparents, and my parents should have to have shone that they were legal citizens before they voted. The only nightmare is the one you are making up bro.

You must be talking way out west - or in the Dakota's, Kansas, etc. places.

There isn't 1 single county in Ohio where you live 60+ miles from a DMV.

Heck, I'm within 12 to 20 miles of 4 DMV's.

And some are open only twice a month, in "many" places? I've not heard of that. Perhaps it's true. Gotta link to that? And also the population of the county?

(now, I know in the rural areas of some states, the counties are much larger than around here.)

Imaginary voter fraud? Just 1 tiny example here, I know, but a guy from here got busted for voting here in Ohio, AND in S. Carolina - same election. At least he got in trouble.

Think it doesn't happen? Is it rampant? Probably not. Showing i.d.'s probably helps.

Did my great grandpa's have i.d.'s to vote? I doubt it, as for them, getting a picture taken was a huge deal.

Bill and Dinah, Henry and his wife (can't come up with her name off the top of my head - and that makes me feel bad - but I sure won't just list a name)




You've gone from "cost" being the big thing, now to distance being the big thing. How do all of these people bank? How do they go to the doctor, or pharmacy, without an i.d.?

Only nightmare here is yours about voter fraud. Republicans are always trying to make the government bigger. It blows my mind.

Bro I love ya, but I am not a Republican. I am not for bigger government. I have zero nightmares about voter fraud. I think it happens, and I don't like it, but trust me I don't lose a seconds sleep over it.

I Hope your having a good day bro.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/...s-for-dems.html

College student gets 100 days in slammer for registering dead voters for Dems

A Virginia college student was sentenced this week to 100 days incarceration for submitting fraudulent voter registration forms listing the names of dead people and other faulty information for a political organization connected to the Democratic Party.

Andrew J. Spieles, 21, was sentenced in federal court Tuesday for knowingly transferring false Virginia voter registration forms during the 2016 election, according to the Justice Department.

Spieles, a student at James Madison University, worked as a staffer for Harrisonburg Votes -- a group affiliated with the Democratic Party -- and was paid to register voters in the area during the weeks leading up to the 2016 election. Spieles’ job was to register as many voters as possible; he reported to Democratic campaign headquarters in Harrisonburg, Va., according to the DOJ.

After filling out a registration form, Spieles entered the voter information into a computer system used by the Virginia Democratic Party. Each week, someone would hand-deliver paper copies to the Registrar’s Office in Harrisonburg.

Last August, however, an employee from the Registrar’s Office contacted law enforcement after another worker recognized a registration form submitted in the name of the late father of a Virginia judge. The office then discovered multiple instances of falsified forms. Some were in the names of deceased individuals, and others had incorrect middle names, birth dates and Social Security numbers, according to the Justice Department.

Spieles admitted he prepared all 18 of the false voter registration forms by obtaining information from “walk sheets” given to him by the Virginia Democratic Party. Spieles said no one else participated in the crime.

Spieles' fraud was punishable by up to a year in prison and a $100,00 fine, but he reached a plea agreement with Assistant U.S. Attorney Jeb Terrien that limited his sentence to between 100 and 120 days behind bars, according to a EAGNews.org.

CHS is posting from jail?

Fair enough. I guess I just don't see the point. I do an absentee ballot and haven't submitted my ID for years. Only time I'm at the polls is if I ever volunteer to help.

Lord I wish you, and some others on this board were my neighbors. We could sit around and discuss things over a few beers, few bowls, or few diet cokes. It would be wonderful to educate each other

I gotta ask.
With Illegals being allowed to vote...
Well,
Could Russians come here illegally and interfere in our elections by voting?
Just asking.
Sorta.