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Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
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Sources: Boston, Cleveland nearing deal on Kyrie Irving, but details still working to completion. Isaiah Thomas, Crowder, pick(s) in talks.


https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/900121788876824576


man that doesn't seem like a good fit at all for Kyrie.

oh well. i could easily see them making somewhere between the 4-6 seed due to kyrie not gelling with the celtics team.


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i don't want Thomas though ... his defense is quite bad


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Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
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Sources: Boston, Cleveland nearing deal on Kyrie Irving, but details still working to completion. Isaiah Thomas, Crowder, pick(s) in talks.


https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/900121788876824576




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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
i don't want Thomas though ... his defense is quite bad


My first thought was that they would try and flip Thomas for something else. His contract is up at the end of the year.

Weird trade (if it happens).

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i don't want Thomas though ... his defense is quite bad


My first thought was that they would try and flip Thomas for something else. His contract is up at the end of the year.

Weird trade (if it happens).
the only teams that make sense to flip ... maybe NO for Cousins or HOU for Paul


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i don't want Thomas though ... his defense is quite bad


My first thought was that they would try and flip Thomas for something else. His contract is up at the end of the year.

Weird trade (if it happens).
the only teams that make sense to flip ... maybe NO for Cousins or HOU for Paul


Paul can't get traded till December 15th (and I don't see that happening).

I would guess they would try and trade Thomas for several lesser younger pieces to fill out the roster and have some guys around if/when LeBron leaves.

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Gimme that Nets pick.


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Gimme that Nets pick.


I would want it too, but I doubt they get it. The Lakers/Kings pick os more realistic (but I don't think they'll get that either).

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Gimme that Nets pick.


I would want it too, but I doubt they get it. The Lakers/Kings pick os more realistic (but I don't think they'll get that either).


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Cavs and Celtics on verge of a deal: Kyrie Irving for Isaiah Thomas, Jae Crowder, Ante Zizic and 2018 Nets pick unprotected, sources say


https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/900135004868665349

They got the Nets pick (it seems).

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that's a good haul


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
that's a good haul


Very good. We should wait and see if there are any protections on the pick. If there aren't, then the Cavs did really well.

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Adrian Wojnarowski‏Verified account @wojespn 3m3 minutes ago

Sources: Boston, Cleveland on trade call now with league office. Deal is done.


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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wow, that escalated


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Welcome to Cleveland, new dudes.


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IT, good.

Crowder, better.

Nets unprotected...


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That's as good as we can do IMO


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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crazy!!


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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
wow, that escalated



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this is crazy! #celticslost


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So then...starting lineup.

Tristan (Frye)
Kevin (Jefferson/Williams)
Lebron (Crowder/Green)
JR (Korver/Shump)
Isaiah (Rose)

And we could still trade the Nets pick, based on what I'm reading.


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trade the unprotected pick for Melo or Cousins?

i'd do it for cousins. omg that would be a squad.


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Not sure I like this trade, both Thomas and crowder don't help us beat GS and you send Kyrie to a conference rival. This was all about the potentially first pick next year


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Oh...and Wade will be joining as well. (probably)


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Originally Posted By: Swish
trade the unprotected pick for Melo or Cousins?

i'd do it for cousins. omg that would be a squad.


That would be big


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They're going to use the pick as insurance ... if LBJ stays, we'll trade it for a piece ... if we think he's leaving, we keep it to rebuild


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Originally Posted By: Swish
trade the unprotected pick for Melo or Cousins?

i'd do it for cousins. omg that would be a squad.


They need that pick to help the rebuild if LeBron and/or Thomas leave. I'd try to trade Thomas for Cousins (I don't think the Pelicans would do it, they need to see Davis and Cousins together for awhile).

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do yall we want to rebuild though? or do we want a legit shot at the warriors this season?

i know what the long term strat says. but the 'short term before lebron leaves' strat says....

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do yall we want to rebuild though? or do we want a legit shot at the warriors this season?


I think they are going to try and do both.

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Originally Posted By: Swish
trade the unprotected pick for Melo or Cousins?

i'd do it for cousins. omg that would be a squad.


Cousins for the pick is a dream scenario.

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trade the unprotected pick for Melo or Cousins?

i'd do it for cousins. omg that would be a squad.


Cousins for the pick is a dream scenario.


The Pelicans are also trying to compete in 2017-18 though. I think Thomas for Cousins would be more realistic, but still not likely.

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Yeah, what's in it for the Pelicans?

I can't see it happening, but it would be a dream scenario.

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They have Holiday on a biggish contract. Why would they want Thomas?


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Originally Posted By: ThatGuy
They have Holiday on a biggish contract. Why would they want Thomas?


They are starting Holiday at the two as of right now (Rondo at the point).

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Ew.


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I'm trying to look for a silver lining here. Here's one I think we might see.

I think Love is set up to have a monster season without Irving. Irving was so ball dominant that it relegated Love to a spot up shooter. I think the Cavs will make a concerted effort to get Love more involved, especially in the post and on the pick and roll. I think the Cavs were getting 80% of what Love was actually capable of. I think Thomas will be a more willing passer. Increased production from Love plus Thomas's production should make up anything the Cavs are losing with Kyrie.

The biggest issue is that Kyrie possessed the #1 skill needed to win in the NBA. Shot maker when it matters most. LeBron is capable. Thomas is capable. But that is a huge loss.

On a side note, I thought we were going to see Kyrie go to camp with the Cavs and everyone was going to ride this out. There has to be so much going on behind the scenes that the public doesn't know about. I wonder if Kyrie informed the team he wasn't going to show up for camp.

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considering Wade alluded to the deal before it happened makes me think there's a LOT going on behind the scenes. Wade will be in CLE in my opinion


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Silver lining?

LOL.....I think the Cavs made out on the deal.

Thomas is a bit of an odd fit because he shoots so much. Then again, Kyrie is a bit of an odd fit for Boston.

I like that we got Crowder and the pick.

I wouldn't mind moving Thomas and the first pick for someone or a couple of guys who can help us win NOW!

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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
considering Wade alluded to the deal before it happened makes me think there's a LOT going on behind the scenes. Wade will be in CLE in my opinion


What do you mean Wade alluded to the deal before it happened?

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considering Wade alluded to the deal before it happened makes me think there's a LOT going on behind the scenes. Wade will be in CLE in my opinion


What do you mean Wade alluded to the deal before it happened?
he posted on twitter before the trade was official with an indication of "watch out" .. twitter again lol


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