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i'll be fine with antifa is labeled a terrorist group when all these white supremacist groups get the same label.


Bro, This administration and their radical followers will never come around to being good with labeling all these white supremacist groups as a terrorist groups.


well that's because some the people marching with white supremacist are good people, according to Trump.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
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i'll be fine with antifa is labeled a terrorist group when all these white supremacist groups get the same label.


Bro, This administration and their radical followers will never come around to being good with labeling all these white supremacist groups as a terrorist groups.


well that's because some the people marching with white supremacist are good people, according to Trump.


When I look around America and I think of Terrorism, I look at the streets of our cities being shot up every night, our convenience stores being robbed at gunpoint every night, the good citizens who must bolt their doors and windows as the idiots come out to rob their houses and take lives until around 3am each day. I ask myself, who is it that makes our streets unsafe for the average, hardworking citizen? Who is it that has killed or beaten thousands of us on the streets for the last decade or better? It isn't Nazi's, it isn't the KKK, heck it isn't even Antifa. What terror is it we flee when the nighttime hours arrive?


So I guess I can see there are many places where that Terrorist label could be applied.

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Originally Posted By: Swish
i'll be fine with antifa is labeled a terrorist group when all these white supremacist groups get the same label.


As they should.


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I love your racist Batman gig. This is topnotch.


What is more telling is that you have answered the question because you know the answer. I never mentioned anyone in my post, only their acts. I never even mentioned a Race yet you label me as Racist. Truth is never Racist.

Another Truth from the Racist Batman...
Sadly, it is mostly Black, hard working, good citizens who must flee from the nightly acts of Terror on our streets.

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A petition put up just days ago urging the Trump administration to label the left-wing Antifa a “terror group” has attracted well over the 100,000


Update: 264,394 signed

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The new left is so dumb!

Damn...........I am a member of the left, but goodness, these new extreme liberals don't understand that they are doing more harm than good w/their constant whining, labeling, and one-sided rhetoric.

Wake up!!!!!

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Signs and Labels we can't get enough of them.

In the 60's the version was the Black Panthers and others that hated the establishment and war enough to rebel.

No the question that we need to answer is would these groups exist if they did not have a specific objective. ... like offering a resistance to those on the far right. If they don't, well they probably are a anti-terror group. If they do have objectives other than to oppose those on the far right, well that would make them a terror group.


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ouch.......LOL.. A police gas canister right to the groin area of a antifa protester after Trumps speech in Arizona. thumbsup


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Originally Posted By: ChargerDawg
Signs and Labels we can't get enough of them.

In the 60's the version was the Black Panthers and others that hated the establishment and war enough to rebel.

No the question that we need to answer is would these groups exist if they did not have a specific objective. ... like offering a resistance to those on the far right. If they don't, well they probably are a anti-terror group. If they do have objectives other than to oppose those on the far right, well that would make them a terror group.


No matter their objectives, their tactics of physical violence toward other people and property is what makes them a terrorist group.

Doesn't matter why they exist.


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ouch.......LOL.. A police gas canister right to the groin area of a antifa protester after Trumps speech in Arizona. thumbsup


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G43Quhw0yfw




Looked like bean bag or rubber bullet. POLICE STATE! Good to see the police quell free speech and the right to protest like that! Like a scene right out of 30s Germany.

This is how things like Kent State happen. And if you find joy in it you are just sheep.

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ouch.......LOL.. A police gas canister right to the groin area of a antifa protester after Trumps speech in Arizona. thumbsup


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G43Quhw0yfw



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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
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I love your racist Batman gig. This is topnotch.


What is more telling is that you have answered the question because you know the answer. I never mentioned anyone in my post, only their acts. I never even mentioned a Race yet you label me as Racist. Truth is never Racist.

Another Truth from the Racist Batman...
Sadly, it is mostly Black, hard working, good citizens who must flee from the nightly acts of Terror on our streets.


Racism masquerades as truth, quite frequently. I'm sure that's why you measure your skull after every post you make. I know who you're talking about because you're hella transparent. The batman monologue though; that was a nice touch.

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Originally Posted By: ChargerDawg
Signs and Labels we can't get enough of them.

In the 60's the version was the Black Panthers and others that hated the establishment and war enough to rebel.

No the question that we need to answer is would these groups exist if they did not have a specific objective. ... like offering a resistance to those on the far right. If they don't, well they probably are a anti-terror group. If they do have objectives other than to oppose those on the far right, well that would make them a terror group.


Yes, history has a way of repeating itself. The difference today is the amount of violence. A Trump supporter can not even wear the hat without being attacked physically.

I do believe if you look deeply into Antifa however, you will find a Political objective, funded by powerful people who pay for buses and salaries. The reason they cover their faces is because you would recognize the same people over and over again at every incident. This is not spontaneous protest.

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Originally Posted By: fishtheice
ouch.......LOL.. A police gas canister right to the groin area of a antifa protester after Trumps speech in Arizona. thumbsup


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G43Quhw0yfw




I don't know why it hurt so much as there was nothing there to hit. nanner

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Signs and Labels we can't get enough of them.

In the 60's the version was the Black Panthers and others that hated the establishment and war enough to rebel.

No the question that we need to answer is would these groups exist if they did not have a specific objective. ... like offering a resistance to those on the far right. If they don't, well they probably are a anti-terror group. If they do have objectives other than to oppose those on the far right, well that would make them a terror group.


Yes, history has a way of repeating itself. The difference today is the amount of violence. A Trump supporter can not even wear the hat without being attacked physically.

I do believe if you look deeply into Antifa however, you will find a Political objective, funded by powerful people who pay for buses and salaries. The reason they cover their faces is because you would recognize the same people over and over again at every incident. This is not spontaneous protest.


lol man, I've lost friends over antifa. But how you portray them (alt-left, when many come from diverse backgrounds) is complete fantasy. It originates in Europe, where you can be beat up by the cops for espousing fascist ideas. Sure, some of their members are socialists and communist, but they're not homogeneous and are too Lenin influenced to ever be true communists imo. You would be shocked by how many Christians and Jewish people are in some of the groups. The groups work independently of each other. They rarely coordinate, as it's unsafe to do so.

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Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
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I love your racist Batman gig. This is topnotch.


What is more telling is that you have answered the question because you know the answer. I never mentioned anyone in my post, only their acts. I never even mentioned a Race yet you label me as Racist. Truth is never Racist.

Another Truth from the Racist Batman...
Sadly, it is mostly Black, hard working, good citizens who must flee from the nightly acts of Terror on our streets.


Racism masquerades as truth, quite frequently. I'm sure that's why you measure your skull after every post you make. I know who you're talking about because you're hella transparent. The batman monologue though; that was a nice touch.


Racism is often a false accusation in response to the Truth.
Discussion and healing can not be possible until the Truth is faced and dealt with.

I have often noticed when the Left is presented with Truth they can not deal with, they turn to accusations and name calling against the speaker in order to deflect from the Truth they have no answer for.

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That's because you're a joke on this forum. No one tries to have real conversations with you because you're a crazy troll. That's why you make posts like racist batman to begin with. Sometimes you can be chill and cool, don't get me wrong. But yeah, your post is whack because mass amounts petty theft from random individuals, which has been declining every year, is not terrorism, because it is not trying to incite terror. Which is a major part of terrorism. Now you're going ignore that part and continue your argument anyway. And that's why I'm done. Funny post tho.

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Like I said, attack the speaker to deflect from the Truth of the original statement (post). My original post had nothing to do with petty theft, it had to do with shooting up our streets on a nightly basis and terrorizing citizens.

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Looked like bean bag or rubber bullet. POLICE STATE! Good to see the police quell free speech and the right to protest like that! Like a scene right out of 30s Germany.


According to a local news station there the police started with the tear gas after protesters started hitting them with rocks and bottles. notallthere


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Robbery, most of the time, is petty theft. Doesn't change the fact that they're not trying to incite terror. Also doesn't change the facts that gun violence and the overall crime rate has been declining. The last peak was when Georgey was still in office in 2006. But our boy managed to reduce the crime rate in 2007 and Obama kept slicing at it all 8 years he was in office. Facts are truths by the way. You can keep spouting "the Truth" with a big T all you want tho.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
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ouch.......LOL.. A police gas canister right to the groin area of a antifa protester after Trumps speech in Arizona. thumbsup


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G43Quhw0yfw





I don't know why it hurt so much as there was nothing there to hit. nanner


Police reported that no injuries to any of the protesters. So yeah nothing there.


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Antifa is an escalation of the occupy movement in my opinion. And any liberal movement, especially one where violence is met with violence terrifies the right. The Police State was called out for Occupy and again now. The Police make human walls to protect Nazis and shoot tear gas and rubber bullets at libs.

I wonder who the masters of the Police State are?

Yes, Antifa must be terrorist, because the right is terrified.
Nazis march through the streets with torches chanting racial slurs and they are 'good people' according to the President?

I don't see any issues here at all...

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Ha! Watch your guy get shot in the groin one more time and tell me who is losing sleep over this crap! rofl

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That video was hilarious. lol


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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/23/pro...ult-police.html (videos and tweets embedded within)

A group of anti-Trump demonstrators used gas canisters, rocks and bottles to assault police Tuesday night and create havoc at what officials said was mostly a peaceful protest in Phoenix.

Video captured by a local reporter also shows a smoking object being thrown at police while hundreds of officers attempted to keep order at a rally after President Trump's speech at the Phoenix Convention Center had ended.

"A very small number of individuals chose criminal conduct," Phoenix Police Chief Jeri Williams told reporters late Tuesday.

The individuals broke down fencing and "at one point dispersed gas into and at the police officers," Williams said. "They had their own gas they threw at police, not our gas."

The violence resembled the mayhem perpetrated by Antifa groups, militant far-left "anti-fascist" groups that have protested Trump at other venues.

Local Phoenix officers dressed in riot gear finally had to disperse pepper balls and tear gas at the crowds. Officers first directed pepper spray at individual protesters before they deployed a larger-scale gas.

"Officers were forced then at that time to really protect themselves, to protect the community, to protect property and they did so successfully and professionally," Williams said.

Four people were arrested in connection with the protest, and two of those were charged with aggravated assault on a police officer.

A reporter with the Arizona Republic captured video of a lit object being thrown toward police officers from a crowd of people gathered in downtown Phoenix. The video shows the object begins smoking after striking a police officer.

Phoenix Mayor Greg Stanton described the event as a largely civil celebration of First Amendment rights -- with tens of thousands of demonstrators -- but noted a "very small number of people" who chose to engage in "acts of assault on our police officers."

Stanton said the group used gas, rocks and bottles and called the incident "very, very unfortunate."

"I don't think they're affiliated with any organization," Stanton said of the individuals arrested.

"Thank God no one was hurt here tonight," he told reporters, noting that two officers were treated for heat exhaustion.

Similar incidents among anti-Trump protesters have been reported at other rallies across the country.

In June, an arsenal of weaponry -- including clubs, knives, bricks and what look like spears -- were seized by police in Portland, Ore., when rival political groups clashed during a pro-Trump, free-speech rally. Law enforcement clad in riot gear had to shield themselves from rocks and other projectiles thrown by anti-Trump protesters, according to local news outlets.

At one point during the Portland demonstrations, several anti-Trump protesters – black-clad and masked – were seen waving an "Antifascist Action" flag at pro-Trump activists.

Antifa groups have come under fire in the wake of the violence at a white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Va. Many have said Antifa demonstrators played a significant role in the violent clashes in Charlottesville and at other events across the country.

A White House petition, meanwhile, is demanding that the Trump administration officially label Antifa a "terror group." As of Wednesday, the petition had more than double the 100,000 signatures needed to merit a formal response from the White House.

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Good post Haus except Fish has updated the number of signatures with a new post. 260,000.

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San Fran park braces for 'Patriot Prayer' rally amid fears of challenges from all sides

What happens when a group that claims its intention is to promote peace, love and unity applies for a permit to rally in a national park?

In the case of “Patriot Prayer,” the first response, after being granted the permit, is to be labeled a white supremacist hate group by Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi.

Pelosi apparently didn’t check with the controversial left-wing organization Southern Poverty Law Center before making the pronouncement.

Not even the SPLC, known for using a broad brush when it brands conservative organizations as hate groups, has come to judge Patriot Prayer as harshly as the California Democrat.

The SPLC reportedly does not consider Patriot Prayer to be a hate group, and its organizer, Joey Gibson, is not considered an extremist.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/23/san...-all-sides.html

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I'm sure the alt left racist hate groups will be there to throw rocks and destroy property. Because thats what animals do.


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But Eve, they are Anti Fascists! Why would they act like Fascists?

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That was a good article. And after looking into the antics of Antifa this last week, I'm not that happy with their tone, actions, or leadership. Meeting aggression with aggression is one thing, being the aggressor in an otherwise peaceful discord is NOT okay on any level.

I hate the White Supremacist movement in all the related groups, but even white people have a right to have cultural pride and and a sense of community. Those that want to believe that have a right to believe it even if I disagree. It's only when they act in an effort to forcefully or aggressively impose those view upon me that I have a right to react in kind.

I did not know at the time that Antifa was the group breaking windows, setting cars on fire, sucker punching non-violent Nazis during interviews, and setting fires at Berkeley. They need to put themselves in check on those activities, now. I wouldn't label them terrorist yet, but thugs and punks sure seems to fit.

This does not change my views on the Police state using riot control on non-rioting protestors; but if other reports are true and they were being aggressive and destructive, then they got what they deserved.

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Ok OCD, its gonna be ok.
Deep breaths now, here, take two of these and have some Gatorade.

Its probably only the heat. Sit now, relax. We will get you back to normal in no time.

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I like it better when he makes sense.


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Ok OCD, its gonna be ok.
Deep breaths now, here, take two of these and have some Gatorade.

Its probably only the heat. Sit now, relax. We will get you back to normal in no time.


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I like it better when he makes sense.


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>Implying that doesn't happen every time they read a post

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i'll be fine with antifa is labeled a terrorist group when all these white supremacist groups get the same label.


Bro, This administration and their radical followers will never come around to being good with labeling all these white supremacist groups as a terrorist groups.


well that's because some the people marching with white supremacist are good people, according to Trump.

Maybe not marching with them, but one can agree with them that a statue does not need to be removed... while disagreeing with them about a superior race.

So if everybody who believes a statue of Robert E. Lee should not be removed is automatically a white supremacist...if you must believe all, or nothing, of what a group or another person believes.. then we have reached an impasse...


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So if I walked with ISIS fighters down the street, you'd buy the excuse that I don't support terrorism, but I just wanted to speak in favor of shara law?


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