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If I was marching to protest the removal of a statue and the KKK, Nazi's or Antifa showed up, I would get the hell out of there!

That's the spirit, run and hide. What a weak and wimpy thing to do rather than stand up for your community and what's right. No surprise tho.

The majority of folks in these communities don't want these statues of treasonous confederate soldiers on display in their parks for the KKK and the Nazi's to rally around inciting violence anymore. They belong in museums and maybe confederate cemeteries, not in public spaces.

You do know 6 out the 8 arrested in VA were from out of state, including the Nazi killer from Ohio.

Unlike you, I know that violence is not the answer.

If the bad guys show up, (KKK, Nazi's, Antifa) I am outta there.

This is not the place to make your stand. There are better ways like getting your own guy elected President to counter the Insane Left and the Corrupt Establishment of both sides.

More blind hate from our con friends

Ha! Your Antifa mask lines are still showing on your face!

Why are cons so quick to lash out against others? I take it hate has overtook their hearts

I imagine if any of us on this board said "your KKK hood lines are still showing" they'd be tossed almost immediately if not sooner from this board. But whatever.

The difference is youve posted your undying support to Antifa and their actions on numerous occasions.

Exactly, and I have made it clear I reject the hate and violence of all those sick groups, KKK, Nazi's and Antifa included.

Doubtful. I've seen one liberal on here equate blonde haired people with Klan members on multiple occasions and he didn't get tossed for it (his actual suspensions were the result of worse, such as insinuating violence toward police officers.)

Anyway, there's an update about the blue shorts guy from last page-- the one who took a crotch shot from a gas round. He has been arrested and charged with three counts of aggravated assault on police.

http://www.azfamily.com/story/36213492/m...-police-charges

Police released a statement that the guy had thrown tear gas canisters at lines of police on at least three separate occasions before the infamous 'crotch shot'.

Hey how come you were a no show when one of your people committed a terrorist act in Charlottesville?

There's Swish... right on cue.

I was a no show long before that. I've been busy with work, family, etc. lately and haven't found much time or motivation to argue about politics on the internet.

What the driver did in Charlottesville was awful as there's no place for violence in our political discourse.

Odd that you all of a sudden found time right when the issue started dying down.

You can go through my post history and you'll regularly find weeks where I don't post. Sometimes I just have a lot of stuff to do or I realize how unproductive it is to debate in here. That's not going to stop you from seeing whatever it is you want to see though.

Oh I don't care enough to search your posting history like some stalker ex girlfriend.

Watching you scramble to defend yourself in typical Haus form is all I wanted to accomplish.

Have a good evening.

I'm not sure why I would need to defend myself so no need to 'scramble'.

You have a good evening as well. Consider doing what I did and take a few weeks off. You'll see that not everything is so bad, it will refresh your mind, etc. Think about it.

I'm good.

I understand that the majority of everything is fine, but what you don't seem to get is just because most things are ok doesn't mean we should stop talking and debating the things that aren't.

But that's your fault for assuming and reading my post in an angry black man's voice. You should probably do more thinking on that.

If I were you, I'd get lawyered up and hit up a couple of sympathetic judges!

It's interesting that I come back from a voluntary three week break from this board and the first thing I get is accusations from you about why I wasn't posting. "one of your people"... how cute.

You do sometimes come off as an angry, unhinged individual although right now you're just being an irritant. You can't really help that though and it's something I've come to terms with.

Glad I can live up to expectations.

Hope you don't disappear when the heat turns on trump, again.

It's already a given that the Democratic-media establishment is going to keep the heat on him regardless of what he does (or doesn't) do.

Don't be surprised when I take another one of my breaks and something "controversial" happens. It will most likely be your confirmation bias that says that I'm trying to avoid conversation when the reality is I'm probably just spending more time working or catching up with friends.

Don't forget all of the "controversies" that I defended Trump in last year. Clemdawg went so far as to say I should be a paid member of his team! (In fairness, I probably could have done a better job than Spicer or a couple of the other goofballs.)

Don't you mean 'pink elephant in the room'?

I'm reading your post in an angry white man voice.

And I agree with Clem, you certainly could be a paid member.

As a matter of fact, looks like there's plenty of job openings on the trump team. Gorka just resigned.

Clem did make a good point about that. I just brought it up because I find the idea that I've shied away from defending Trump to be pretty humorous.

Since this is the Antifa thread, what do you think of Antifa throwing bottles of urine and feces at police officers and journalists? That seems to be one of the recurring trends of the "anti-fascists".

http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/20/pee-fi...-anti-fascists/

In their efforts to drive political opponents from the public square, self-described “anti-fascists” (or “antifa”) are utilizing a disgusting and degrading weapon: human urine.

In just the latest instance of weaponized urine, counter-protesters demonstrating against a free speech rally in Boston on Saturday flung urine-filled bottles at police officers trying to maintain order amidst an already tense political climate.

The Boston Police Department sent out a message on Twitter urging demonstrators not to assault officers with urine, but it’s unclear if it had any effect. Boston Police Commissioner William Evans stated at a press conference later that day that protesters successfully hit officers with their urine-filled projectiles.

“I’m sorry to report that we did have some bottles thrown at our officers that did have urine in it. A couple of our officers were hit with that,” Evans said. “They were hit with a lot of stuff today.”



The use of urine appears to be a trademark tactic of self-described “anti-fascist” demonstrators.

Antifa brought urine-filled projectiles to the violent clashes between white nationalists and antifa in Charlottesville, Virginia earlier this month. Journalists were among those hit with urine.

“Two of my producers just got sprayed with urine,” journalist Katie Couric wrote on Twitter. “Lovely. Hard to keep your cool.”

Couric didn’t name which side the pee culprits were on, but reporters with The Daily Caller News Foundation witnessed far-left demonstrators launching urine-filled balloons at white nationalists.

As this past weekend’s events in Boston showed, it’s not just suspected white nationalists who get hit with urine.

Left-wing counter-protesters at a June 4 free speech rally in Portland, Oregon launched balloons filled with human urine and feces at the free speech rally-goers, the city police chief recounted in a letter to Portland’s mayor.

“The decision to move the group located in Chapman Square was made after [Portland police] had repeatedly observed objects being thrown and shot from slingshot type devices from Chapman Square into Terry Shrunk Plaza,” Chief of Police Michael Marshman wrote. (He noted earlier in the letter that Chapman Square was “the site of one of the counter protests,” while Terry Shrunk Plaza was the location of the free speech rally.)

“These objects included urine and feces filled balloons, balloons with unknown chemicals, marbles, bricks and rocks,” Marshman wrote.

Local news coverage described the urine-flinging counter-protesters as antifa members. (RELATED: Leader Of Portland Anti-Trump Protests Charged With Sexually Abusing Minor)

Right-wing YouTuber and activist Lauren Southern says she’s been doused with urine by antifa on multiple occasions, including one occasion where she says the bottle was labeled as fox urine.

Popular antifa website It’s Going Down confirmed that “anti-fascists” have hit Southern with some form of urine at least once.

An article posted on the website in April stated that “anti-fascists threw urine on her when she came out to defend an American Front meeting that was happening.” (RELATED: In Their Own Words: The Radical Political Goals Of ‘Anti-Fascists’)

Right-wing provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos said attendees at a speech he was going to give at the University of California, Davis in January were also hit with urine.

After protesters forced the speech’s cancellation due to safety concerns, Yiannopoulos wrote on Facebook that “guests were sprayed with urine and had bags of feces thrown at them” by “left-wing thugs.”

The university stated that police were unable to confirm that protesters were throwing urine and feces at attendees although multiple news outlets reported guests saying that urine was, indeed, thrown at them.

I agree. They just killed him on comments about violence on both sides. If there weren't two sides, why would there be violence?


It's time for people to take a look in the mirror.

From Antifa earlier this year. Most people are probably unaware of this because the mainstream media rarely makes an effort to cover far-left violence.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/26/eric-clanton-former-calif-professor-arrested-in-vi/

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/05/26/professor-charged-berkeley-trump-protest-assault/

BERKELEY (CBS SF) — A former professor at Diablo Valley College was charged Friday with four counts of assault with a deadly weapon for allegedly attacking people with a U-lock bike lock during a clash between President Trump supporters and anti-fascist activists in Berkeley last month.

Eric Clanton, 28, who was arrested on Wednesday, was arraigned on the four felony assault charges in Alameda County Superior Court this afternoon along with a misdemeanor charge of wearing a mask to evade identification in the commission of a crime.

Berkeley police Officer Andres Bejarano wrote in a probable cause statement that at an event at the Civic Center Park in Berkeley on April 15 that attracted vocal Trump supporters and counter-demonstrators, Clanton “was armed with a U-shaped metal bicycle lock and struck at least seven different victims in the head.”

Bejarano said one of the victims suffered a head laceration that required that five staples be placed in the victim’s head.

Clanton disappeared into a large crowd after that attack, according to Bejarano.

SLIDESHOW: Images: Violent, Bloody Day In Berkeley

A search of Clanton’s phone records after a warrant was obtained disclosed that he had been in the Civic Center Park area at the time of the assaults, Bejarano wrote.

Police obtained an arrest warrant for Clanton on Monday but when they tried to execute it at his San Leandro residence on Wednesday he wasn’t there, according to Bejarano.

However, detectives recovered evidence at the home that associated Clanton with anti-fascists and anarchist political groups, Bejarano wrote.

Detectives later located Clanton at his new address in West Oakland and aresteed him there at about 12:15 p.m. on Wednesday, according to Bejarano.

Detectives recovered evidence at that home, such as flags, patches, pamphlets and indicia, associating Clanton with anti-fascists and anarchist groups, Bejarano said.

Detectives also found U-locks, sunglasses, a glove, jeans and facial coverings consistent with those allegedly worn or possessed by Clanton during the April 15 event, according to Bejarano.

Detectives tried to interview Clanton to get his side of the story but he immediately invoked his right to an attorney, Bejarano said.

Clanton was an adjunct professor at Diablo Valley in Pleasant Hill in 2016, teaching philosophy, but he’s no longer employed there.

Alameda County District Attorney spokeswoman Teresa Drenick said she believes that Clanton is the only person who has been charged so far in connection with the April 15 clash or a similar clash between pro- and anti-Trump activists in Civic Center Park on March 4.

That's interesting. My daughter has blond hair. Would that person think my daughter is in favor of the klan?

Everything you describe about Antifa is indicative of a Terrorist Organization.

You'd have to ask Swish but I'm pretty sure he reserves his ire for blonde haired males only.

https://www.dawgtalkers.net/ubbthreads.ph...oll#Post1249631

I think what Antifa did is messed up.

Every once in a while, we actually agree on something. I think the last time before this was when we both thought it was messed up when that guy had to pay like 65 grand in child support for a kid who wasn't is and who he had never met.

But anyway, there is a lot of blame to go around for what we're seeing. Neither side has a monopoly on being nasty, not even close.

It's an interesting characterization. I neither agree nor disagree with it. Certainly some of the events I posted last night fit the bill of political terrorism, "The unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property in order to coerce or intimidate a government or the civilian population in furtherance of political or social objectives."

I imagine that PortlandDawg, PDX, and others in that area who have witnessed widespread destruction/vandalism in their city might consider calling the belligerents to be terrorists. Then again, it's really been amazing how little coverage that Antifa and related/affiliated groups have gotten until recently. It was all over the web mind you, but you wouldn't see any of it in mainstream media.

Part that gives me some pause in labeling it a terror group is their overall lack of structure. What are you labeling? Who are you going to go after? It's largely a ragtag bunch and not everybody who dresses up in black masks and uses other black bloc tactics is necessarily Antifa (it's hard to tell some of them apart though.)

I absolutely hate antifa and believe they're fake af politically and have told members that. There is no room for violence in any ideal society, especially on the left. I feel bad for those who have been victims of their violence. However, posting an article about how they throw urine at major alt-right racists, like Milo and Lauren Southern makes me really want to side with them. Of course you can't, but maybe it is a karma like punishment.

I believe in the Bernie Sanders approach (paraphrasing):

If you can't ask somebody far to the right (or left) of you questions which expose their argument and have an honest debate, that is a sign of intellectual weakness. If all you can do is boo, or prevent somebody from coming, or in this case use violence... what does that tell the world?

It goes back to the old saying: 'sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me.' A bit childish perhaps, but wiser words are rarely spoken.

edit: It seems we are mostly in agreement here regarding violence, so this isn't meant as a debate. I'm just clarifying my approach. There are people far to the right of me that I just don't agree with, but I will listen to what they say. And clearly there are people far (far!) to the left of me who I also don't agree with, but I will listen to what they say as well.

I do commend your honesty about what you like to see happen to Milo and Lauren Southern. I think many on the left feel the way you do but would never have the courage to admit it.

I think throwing bottles of urine at people is cowardly and disgusting no matter who it is directed at. It's not even about views as much as it is common human decency. See my post above about having an honest debate as opposed to resorting to violence (here I am making the judgement that throwing disgusting and possibly disease-carrying bodily fluids can be classified as violence.)

Also those tactics aren't just directed at racists, as you call them. They're directed at police officers and journalists just doing their jobs, and regular people who get caught at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Also, I don't really know much about Lauren Southern other than being generally aware that she's one of the online right-wing personalities.

I've heard Milo speak briefly a couple times, and the best word I can come up with for him is provocateur. I didn't hear anything too outrageous from him but again, I don't really follow the guy; I just know a little more about him than I do Lauren Southern.

He was at the infamous event that led to Trigglypuff.



I'd post the video but it's heavy on the profanity, and not important enough to hope for a good faith exemption to post here.

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Woh there. I don't like seeing urine thrown at Milo and Lauren. I would never advocate for such a thing. However when you see at two people who constantly invalidate the humanity of their fellow humans, and have made successful careers doing such an act, get hit with an equally dehumanizing action, would seem like karma to an unbiased observer. Again, I'm not an advocate for urine throwing or antifa in general. Please don't paint me like I am.

.1% of the population? This issue is a real fire storm, lol.

Yet you want to change America's bathrooms and have our children shower with the opposite sex for not many more people than that.