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http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/controver...ory?id=49426093

Trump pardons controversial former Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio

Controversial former Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio was pardoned by President Donald Trump on Friday after being found guilty in July on criminal contempt charges stemming from his refusal to stop imprisoning suspected illegal immigrants.

"Sheriff Joe Arpaio is now eighty-five years old, and after more than fifty years of admirable service to our Nation, he is [a] worthy candidate for a Presidential pardon," the White House said in part in a press release.

Arpaio, an outspoken critic of undocumented migrants as well as an ardent supporter of Trump, appeared on the presidential campaign trail with the Republican candidate in 2016. He was said to be under consideration for a pardon last week by Trump, and was all but promised clemency by the president during a rally in Phoenix on Tuesday.

"I'll make a prediction. I think [Arpaio]'s going to be just fine, OK? But I won't do it tonight because I don't want to cause any controversy," said the president, alluding to a pardon. "Is that OK? ... But Sheriff Joe can feel good."

The White House said Arpaio exemplified "selfless public service" throughout his life and career. "Throughout his time as Sheriff, Arpaio continued his life’s work of protecting the public from the scourges of crime and illegal immigration," the release said.

Trump hints at pardoning Sheriff Joe Arpaio during Arizona rally
A look back at Trump's praise for controversial Sheriff Joe Arpaio
As sheriff of Maricopa County from 1993 to 2016, Arpaio gained national notoriety for his hardline positions and unconventional punishments for prisoners. He was frequently accused of racial profiling regarding his practice of arresting and jailing undocumented immigrants, and was sued over the issue in 2007.

In 2013, a U.S. District Court judge ruled the county's actions to be discriminatory and in violation of the Civil Rights Act. This led to a contempt charge when Arpaio's office refused to yield on its conduct. He has yet to be sentenced after being found guilty on July 31.

Arpaio also garnered widespread attention for housing inmates in an extension of the Maricopa County jail known as "Tent City," issuing prisoners pink-colored underwear and holding multiple press conferences to allege that President Barack Obama's birth certificate was fraudulent.

Arpaio endorsed Trump's presidential candidacy in January 2016, going on to appear at campaign events with the businessman-turned-politician and eventually speaking at the Republican National Convention. Despite his elevated national exposure, Arpaio was defeated in his own election in November by an almost 13-point margin.

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Smh....wow.


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Good.


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Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
Good.

Agreed, it was the sensible thing to do. Bonus points for triggering Swish and who knows who else.

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How did this trigger me? All I said was 'wow'.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
How did this trigger me? All I said was 'wow'.

Combination of that and your comments in the other thread. Maybe I got carried away that.. my bad.

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How did this trigger me? All I said was 'wow'.




I agree. You didn't say anything dumb.

Like him or not, Arpaio was a Sheriff enforcing laws. Sometimes even a bit extreme for me, but he didn't/doesn't need to be in jail.

Some people seem to ignore the illegal part.


Do I think all illegals need to be shipped back to wherever? No.

I think we need to find a way to keep them here since they are already here, but they need to go through a process.

I agree with President Trump. You don't have a country if you don't have a secure border. It's kind of like you don't have a home if you don't have locks on the door. You just can't let anybody in if they want.


Seriously.....

I don't see how anybody can disagree with that.


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Great News! Go home now Sheriff Joe, brave soldier of the cause.

Job well done thumbsup

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Great News! Go home now Sheriff Joe, brave soldier of the cause.

Job well done thumbsup


Spoken like a true white supremacists... Joe the bigot got pardoned by the bigot-in-chief... no surprise here.

The pardon didn't trigger me either, I knew Trump was going to do that. But 40's 'soldier of the cause' bit boils my blood.

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Shouldn't you be down in your Socialist Utopia, Venezuela, helping to feed the starving?

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Spoken like a man w/a true open mind. rolleyes

I have no idea as to whether or not the guy should have been pardoned or not, but I do know the constant labeling [name calling] is a bad idea by Trump's opponents.

I also believe [but do not know] that Trump should be reaching out to his opponents and trying to mend fences. He hasn't done that. Instead, he responds w/acts like this and gives that speech in AZ.

I want to believe in the president because of all the whining, complaining, and unfair biased criticism he has received, but he is a very hard guy to like.

This might seem off topic, but.......even though my wife and I are in the process of buying a new home and our two children have purchased homes w/in the last two years, we are all discussing buying a significant portion of land and building a home or homes there. The "blank" is getting nuts and it's time to be thinking of protecting our own.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Shouldn't you be down in your Socialist Utopia, Venezuela, helping to feed the starving?


Don't attack me for calling out obvious racism lttle trump supporter, I'm going to stay here and stand my ground because bigots are a dying breed, they just don't know it yet. And since you hate socialism, don't get on any public roads, don't use public schools, public libraries, community services, social security, medicare/medicaid, public parks, numerous tax breaks/credits, etc. because they are all basic socialism.

You have no idea what the difference between socialism and fascism are because you show your ignorance of facts on a regular basis in here.


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America should erect a Statue to Sheriff Joe! thumbsup

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Bigots are not a dying breed. Just look at all the pro-Kap protests lately. They are bigots and they are growing.

Despite what some may think, bigots exist in all groups and are not limited to whites.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
America should erect a Statue to Sheriff Joe! thumbsup


Funny that the words 'erect' and 'Sheriff Joe' hit your mind for the same sentence. And obviously you haven't got the memo that we are removing racist statues not putting new ones up.


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I asked this before...............but should we take down the statues of people like Abraham Lincoln, US Grant, Sherman, etc because of their admitted genocide of Native Americans?

Or, don't Native Americans count? Do we only count offenses against blacks as worthy of tearing down statues?

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I asked this before...............but should we take down the statues of people like Abraham Lincoln, US Grant, Sherman, etc because of their admitted genocide of Native Americans?

Or, don't Native Americans count? Do we only count offenses against blacks as worthy of tearing down statues?


Put them all in museums where they belong.


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Sheriff Arpaio on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RealSheriffJoe

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Thank you @realdonaldtrump for seeing my conviction for what it is: a political witch hunt by holdovers in the Obama justice department!

I am humbled and incredibly grateful to President Trump. I look fwd to putting this chapter behind me and helping to #MAGA

I also thank my loyal supporters, who stood shoulder to shoulder w/ me in this fight, and throughout my career. For those who are asking . .

..how they can con't to help, a donation to my Legal fund go directly to paying off legal fees from this fight [link to fundraiser]

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Yeah, or maybe concentrate on more important things.

For instance:

--The National Debt

--The divide in our country, as in mending fences instead of furthering the divide

--Global warming

--Citizens having representation from their politicians

But, y'all keep talkin' out your ass and trying to place all the blame on the other side. Both sides are whacked and are hurting our country.

And if guys like you and 40 on the other "side" don't like..............I say..........."GOOD." I'm tired of extremists screwing things up.

It's time the sane take back the country.

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You are welcome good soldier but it was not a gift, you earned your freedom and hopefully a future statue! thumbsup

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I don't have a lot of knowledge about this guy, but he sounds like a "hater." Part of the problem rather than part of the solution.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I don't have a lot of knowledge about this guy, but he sounds like a "hater." Part of the problem rather than part of the solution.

As I understand it, he ran his jail pretty harshly, probably unnecessarily so. But he was convicted of something else entirely and it was a joke.

We have millions-- possibly tens of millions-- of illegal immigrants in our country right now. That is a failure of immigration policy and enforcement of unbelievable proportions. Both sides of the political aisle are to blame. I have a hard time faulting this guy for trying to make a positive difference.

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He was to be one of Obama's political prisoners but he is free and we are free of Obama. thumbsup

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That's fine peen except that's not what he got the criminal charges for and you know it.

He was probably going to jail over some very legitimate crap, but Trump saved him.


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Care to summarize? I don't have the desire to read 7 cherry picked articles with no explanation to back them up.

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Sheriff Joe continued to enforce our Nations immigration laws even as our Federal Government fought to ignore those laws and allow our Country to be flooded with illegals.

He was relentless in his pursuit of those illegals.

Finally, the Feds, through Obama appointees, found a charge they could make stick to shut him down.

Arpaio, 85, was recently found guilty of criminal contempt for defying a judge's order to stop traffic patrols that allegedly targeted immigrants.

He had been charged with misdemeanor contempt of court for allegedly willfully defying a judge’s order in 2011 and prolonging his patrols for another 17 months.

"Sheriff Joe Arpaio is now 85 years old, and after more than 50 years of admirable service to our Nation, he is worthy candidate for a Presidential pardon," the White House said in a statement.

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This despicable sheriff set up tent camps to house prisoners. Continually targeted latinos and held them beyond normal holding periods due to his 'suspicion' that they might be illegal. He let prisoners die under his care. He even made them wear pink underwear as some twisted sick form of belittling.

Then when court ordered to end his illegal targeting and treatment of latinos, he ignored the order and continued his reign of terror. He broke the law, plain and simple.

This guy is a creep, just like the guy that pardoned him. Another alt-right hero. smh

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If the charge he was convicted of was about treatment of prisoners, I would have less sympathy for the guy. Beyond that though, 40 addressed this better than I could have.

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If the charge he was convicted of was about treatment of prisoners, I would have less sympathy for the guy. Beyond that though, 40 addressed this better than I could have.
But the issue is the illegal targeting of people because of their Latino descent.

I think many who seem to think this is ok, justify it in their bigot minds because they feel people with Hispanic bloodlines are less American than they are.

I am not speaking of people illegaly here, I am speaking of people who are American citizens whos last name happen to be Hernandez, or Ortiz etc..


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The Nations Laws say that illegal immigration is illegal and those who are here illegally are to be arrested, charged and deported.

That is exactly what Sheriff Joe did his entire career.

The Obama administration was in violation of the Law for eight years as Sheriff Joe did his job.

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The Nations Laws say that illegal immigration is illegal and those who are here illegally are to be arrested, charged and deported.

That is exactly what Sheriff Joe did his entire career.

The Obama administration was in violation of the Law for eight years as Sheriff Joe did his job.
You didnt read a word I wrote before you spouted your canned response, did you ?

Sheriff Joe got in trouble for his targeting of LATINOS, being a Latino does not make you an illegal


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
The Nations Laws say that illegal immigration is illegal and those who are here illegally are to be arrested, charged and deported.

That is exactly what Sheriff Joe did his entire career.

The Obama administration was in violation of the Law for eight years as Sheriff Joe did his job.
You didnt read a word I wrote before you spouted your canned response, did you ?

Sheriff Joe got in trouble for his targeting of LATINOS, being a Latino does not make you an illegal


Sheriff Joe got in trouble because he spit in the face of our false leaders who refused to obey our Nations Laws and he obeyed them himself in rounding up criminals Obama wanted to stay at tax payer expense.
Eventually, Obama got him and was going to make a political prisoner out of him but America threw out Obama's people and freed Sheriff Joe.

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An oldie but goodie: http://www.bpunion.org/newsroom/press-re...p-for-president

National Border Patrol Council Endorses Donald Trump for President

The National Border Patrol Council is the official organization representing our nation’s Border Patrol Agents. We represent 16,500 agents who selflessly serve this country in an environment where our own political leaders try to keep us from doing our jobs.

The NBPC has had a longstanding practice of not endorsing presidential candidates in the primaries. We will not, however, shy away from voicing our opinions as it pertains to border security and the men and women of the United States Border Patrol. As such, we are breaking with our past practice and giving our first-ever endorsement in a presidential primary. We think it is that important: if we do not secure our borders, American communities will continue to suffer at the hands of gangs, cartels and violent criminals preying on the innocent. The lives and security of the American people are at stake, and the National Border Patrol Council will not sit on the sidelines.

As an organization we expect our elected officials to aggressively pursue the interests of the country. America has already tried a young, articulate freshman senator who never created a job as an attorney and under whose watch criminal cartels have been given the freest border reign ever known.

Unlike his opponents, Donald Trump is not a career politician, he is an outsider who has created thousands of jobs, pledged to bring about aggressive pro-American change, and who is completely independent of special interests. We don't need a person who has the perfect Washington-approved tone, and certainly NOT another establishment politician in the W.H. Indeed, the fact that people are more upset about Mr. Trump’s tone than about the destruction wrought by open borders tells us everything we need to know about the corruption in Washington.

We need a person in the White House who doesn't fear the media, who doesn't embrace political correctness, who doesn't need the money, who is familiar with success, who won't bow to foreign dictators, who is pro-military and values law enforcement, and who is angry for America and NOT subservient to the interests of other nations. Donald Trump is such a man.

Mr. Trump is as bold and outspoken as other world leaders who put their country's interests ahead of all else. Americans deserve to benefit for once instead of always paying and apologizing. Our current political establishment has bled this country dry, sees their power evaporating, and isn't listening to voters who do all the heavy lifting. Trump is opposed by the established powers specifically because they know he is the only candidate who actually threatens the established powers that have betrayed this country.

You can judge a man by his opponents: all the people responsible for the problems plaguing America today are opposing Mr. Trump. It is those without political power – the workers, the law enforcement officers, the everyday families and community members – who are supporting Mr. Trump.

Mr. Trump will take on special interests and embrace the ideas of rank-and-file Border Patrol agents rather than listening to the management yes-men who say whatever they are programmed to say. This is a refreshing change that we have not seen before – and may never see again.

Mr. Trump is correct when he says immigration wouldn’t be at the forefront of this presidential campaign if months ago he hadn’t made some bold and necessary statements. And when the withering media storm ensued he did not back down one iota. That tells you the measure of a man. When the so-called experts said he was too brash and outspoken, and that he would fade away, they were proven wrong. We are confident they will be proven wrong again in November when he becomes President of the United States.

There is no greater physical or economic threat to Americans today than our open border. And there is no greater political threat than the control of Washington by special interests. In view of these threats, the National Border Patrol Council endorses Donald J. Trump for President – and asks the American people to support Mr. Trump in his mission to finally secure the border of the United States of America, before it is too late.

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We need a person in the White House who doesn't fear the media, who doesn't embrace political correctness, who doesn't need the money, who is familiar with success, who won't bow to foreign dictators, who is pro-military and values law enforcement, and who is angry for America and NOT subservient to the interests of other nations. Donald Trump is such a man.

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j\c at least TRUMP didn't use his LEGAL pardon power to let AL- QUEDA radicals out of jail to go back to killing American soldiers, treasoners or deserters no outrage then by all the left justice seekers.
JUST SAYIN.....

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Worst President EVER.


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Conservatives keep saying we're a nation of laws, and don't support discrimination.

Yet here they are, supporting a guy who blatantly broke the law in order to discriminate.

Proving once again that their actual beliefs doesn't match their rhetoric.


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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Great News! Go home now Sheriff Joe, brave soldier of the cause.

Job well done thumbsup


But 40's 'soldier of the cause' bit boils my blood.



Try this one on for size then, Trump has Pardoned brave Sheriff Joe for his crimes. What message does that send to all those brave souls under investigation by Mueller and the Washington Establishment?

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