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Joe Haden is on the trade block according to CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora.

The Cleveland Browns are 'aggressively' shopping the veteran and are 'motivated to move his contract.'

The 28 year old was the No. 7 overall selection in the 2010 NFL Draft. He made two Pro Bowl appearances in 2013 and 2014. Over the past two seasons, he has missed 14 games including 11 games in 2015. The Maryland native recorded 48 tackles and three interceptions last season.

Haden signed a five year deal worth $67.5 million in May of 2014. He could potentially opt out in 2018. The Florida product is scheduled to result in a cap hit of $14.4 million over each of the next two seasons and $10.4 million in 2019.

If the Browns are able to move him, they would likely get very little in return or be forced to eat a large portion of his salary.

With his health and decline in play over the last few years, I doubt many people would want to takeover that star contract of his.

But with LaConfora reporting this, is it even true at all? Heh...

Like others stated...with his health and salary, unlikely we get anything good in value...might as well keep him as injuries are bound to happen

Wow! I don't blame them for wanting to trade him. He's slowed down/not as good as he once was.

no shocker here. He's been horrible for 2 seasons while getting paid big bucks. the emergency of Calhoun has made him expendable

I'm not surprised that this is out there. He didn't look good Saturday night, IMO. I think the injuries are really catching up.

Still not sure who would be an adequate replacement but perhaps the team thinks they'd be fine with McCourty and Taylor on the outside? I'm not sure about that. The depth at CB doesn't get me too excited if Haden were to be traded.

Haden has been ravaged by injuries and it shows on the field. His speed has slowed down noticeably. He struggles in one on one.

That said, I think they'd have trouble getting anything significant in return should they be able to move him.

I think it's more a case of we're looking for a receiver, and Joe's name has come up as a potential chip in that trade. La Confora is just putting it in the worst light for the Browns as he has done before. Broad strokes are true, but he's still grinding an ax. If we're trying hard to move him, his value goes down. If we're willing to trade him for the right compensation, that's not quite the same thing.

I think you meant emerging, yes? Regardless, I agree - he ain't what he used to be. Plus it seems like he gets caught holding more often now too. And no more Adderall might have slowed his play down, along with the obvious - gettin' older.

His price tag is steep if other teams think he has slowed down. Not sure how relevant this is but he'd be a dead cap hit of roughly $3MM if released.

I still lean towards keeping him but Saturday's game didn't look good in his favor.

His dead cap, if released this year, is $10.8M. If released next year, it's $3.2M. Releasing him this year isn't really an option.

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Browns could be doing homework on trading for WR
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Per ESPN Cleveland’s Tony Grossi, the Browns are weighing their options at the wide receiver position.

https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2017/8/28/16211560/browns-could-be-doing-homework-on-trading-for-wr

The Cleveland Browns can’t bank on Josh Gordon returning at any time, and with Kenny Britt’s struggles this preseason despite signing a lucrative contract, the only receiver who has stepped up is second-year man Corey Coleman, who has had an up-and-down start to his young career due to injuries.

That’s why it’s no surprise that Sunday morning, Tony Grossi of ESPN Cleveland reported that he was hearing that the Browns were “researching a trade for a receiver.” How would Grossi know such a thing? If I had to guess, one of his beat reporter connections from another team probably relayed a report about their team fielding a call from Cleveland.


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I'm hearing the Browns are researching trading for a receiver. They know they need help there.
10:50 AM - Aug 27, 2017



Could one of those receivers be Jarvis Landry of the Miami Dolphins? Entering the final year of his contract, Miami one report said they were interested in yielding a high return for him as they try to commit to DeVante Parker instead.


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Heard this morning the Browns are shopping for a receiver. Hmm.... https://twitter.com/mlombardiNFL/status/901818093227225092 …
10:59 AM - Aug 27, 2017

However, Dolphins head coach Adam Gase shot down the report, saying they are not fielding any trade calls for Landry.

Phillip Dorsett, a former first-round pick by the Indianapolis Colts, is another receiver whose name has come up as being on the trading block. But his first two years have been regarded as a bit of a letdown, and Cleveland might be seeking a player with a different skill set. The Browns will have first crack at the waiver wire when cuts come down the pipe after the fourth preseason game, so they wouldn’t need to trade for a young bubble player. If there is a vested veteran, though, they could toss a pick someone’s way to add some experience to the back end of the depth chart.

I think it's true. It seems like it's picking up steam.

If they've honed in on Kizer as the future QB, it makes sense to find him better WRs, right?

You are correct. I was referring to 2018, not this year. I failed to include the year when referencing the $3MM number.

Agree with Grimm.

j/c:

Trading Joe Haden has always felt inevitable as part of Cleveland Browns' rebuild

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- There was a time when it was nearly impossible to imagine the Browns without Joe Haden. He was, for a short window, the face of the team. He still is one of the most recognizable faces, even after two years ravaged by injury.

When the roster teardown started, though, following the hiring of Sashi Brown and bringing in Paul DePodesta, it always felt like Haden would fall victim to that. He played in just five games in 2015, including missing a game with a finger injury that was followed by his head coach at the time, Mike Pettine, not so gracefully throwing him under the bus.

The Browns didn't trade Haden, though, and it's likely that his contract and his injuries played a role. He appeared in 13 games last season, but he also dealt with two separate groin injuries. The difference this year is that it's easier for some team to take a one-year flyer on the former Pro Bowl cornerback, assuming they can afford him and they're willing to part with a draft pick or, perhaps, a wide receiver.

If the Browns do, in fact, trade Haden, the math is simple on a number of levels. They've had cornerbacks emerge since the offseason of 2016. Jamar Taylor, acquired for a seventh round pick, has locked down a starter spot. Jason McCourty was signed in free agency. They pulled Briean Boddy-Calhoun off the undrafted scrap heap when Jacksonville cut him and he's turned into a player they can trust playing on the inside or outside. Trading Haden would leave the Browns thin, but not entirely lost.

Simply cutting Haden, either this year or last, would have been expensive. After this season, though, that number drops dramatically. So the clock was already ticking on his time here. It's hard to imagine that even a highly productive season could have changed that considering the number of picks the Browns have to replace an expensive player like Haden.

Haden is only 28, even though it feels like he's been in the league forever. He won't turn 29 until next April. There could be some good years left, unless the injuries of the past two seasons really have left him a shell of the Pro Bowler he once was. For the right price, some team could take a shot, assuming they can afford him this year.

For a team whose owner publicly targeted 2018 and 2019 as the seasons where the turnaround could really begin, though, a player like Haden carries significantly less value. He's been the face of the Cleveland Browns for a long time, for better or for worse. It has always been hard to imagine him as the face of this new era, though.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/08/joe_haden_cleveland_browns_2.html

Wouldn't surprise me.. I guess if they got a guy to slide in to his spot they are confident in and they can get something of value, why not. Hate to see him go. he's one of the good guys.

j/c

Haden has not looked like what he was but he's not suddenly Ralph Brown 2.0. If we can take something great in trade, then fine....value is value. But if we chuck him for a 4th rounder or something, I'll be annoyed.

God, make him your third CB if you want but let's not go all fire sale when we still have precious few assets.

I love Joe Haden and how passionate he seems to be about the team. With that said, he has not been good for a few years. If we could anything of value for him, I would take it.

As others have said, if we cut him (which I don't think is an option), we take on a $10.8 million cap hit (and save $3.6M against the cap). But if we trade him, we take on $6.8M cap hit (and save $7.6M). The hit lessens by a lot next year.

I'd expect Haden to be on the team, but for only one more year.

One thing I can think of is trying to swap bad contracts with someone.

https://twitter.com/NateUlrichABJ/status/902570598626414597

Not exactly a ringing endorsement.

I lean towards this being the case as well.

I should say if he plays well this year, then there is no reason to trade/cut him next year. I do not expect him to play well.

Boddy has outplayed him. simple as that.

I guess I also think CB could be considered high in the draft next year as well. If a young guy is taken with a first rounder, that could be another reason why to possibly cut ties.

Not sure how Joe will do this season, here or elsewhere. Even if he plays close to what he has in the past, lingering injuries and $$ will always play a role.

I'm not a huge fan of Haden. I think his play has regressed since he had that huge year the first time Horton was here.

However, I think it would be wise to keep him this year. As others have mentioned, the financial implications are a lot more team-friendly next year.

Additionally, you really can't have enough decent corners. Teams are passing the ball so much more than they used to and are lining up w/4 plus receivers quite a bit. Heck, we even see empty backfields frequently.

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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/902578215021150212

Send another one to Colts

Alright, let's get another first rounder from them for Joe lol.

I agree, next year though I think that he will be asked to re-do his contract or he will probably be released.

Wilson will be on the PUP or the IR and looking at our depth at CB, I dont see but 3 or 4, bedsides Haden.

j/c

I no longer think that Haden is a great CB, but with us being so weak in the secondary, I don't see shipping him off this season as being the smart thing to do.

I have thought the same thing the last few weeks

I'd hate to lose Joe Haden. He's the epitome of what I want in anyone who ever represents the city of Cleveland.

Only a handful of guys ever get it. See Josh Cribbs.

I don't think we see any trades made until after Sept 2 (roster cut deadline).

This. I love his passion for the team and for the CITY. As far as that goes, he ranks very high among guys who LOVE to be here.

But yeah, he's so obviously lost a step. I actually caught myself holding my breath on his returning to form this season. Haven't seen anything close to him in his prime.

Anything above a fourth round pick would be a miracle, I think. Maybe a player (receiver please!) if he's part of a package deal.

this front office has dramatically upgraded our linebackers, improved our offensive line, added major quality and depth to our defensive line, added several pieces to our safeties, given us a quarterback that many folks feel can be "the guy", all in two short years. if Cory c. Saturday night is an indication of what he will be this year they added a solid wide receiver in the first round. the other receivers they drafted were higher round guys and if one of them turns out to be decent it will be a solid receiver draft. all this in two years. and all you can do is complain. if our next two are as quality as the past two I think we will be making major strides.

Let's redo their contracts and send them both Joe and Brock.

They are already starting. Teams with specifics wants and needs aren't willing to wait for players to make it past player needy teams on waivers. The Steelers just traded a 4th for a TE. The Broncos might be open to trading TJ Ward. There are a bunch of other rumors flying around. I think that we'll see between 10-15 trades before the final cuts.