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Nope. Again you twist facts. I support gender neutral bathrooms but NEVER said anything about showering with children. Your sicko mind concocted that image. SHAME!

As for the numbers, we are not talking people in the group but people that support their use of bathrooms which is MUCH higher than your pathetic Trumpian tears issue.

Man who claimed he was stabbed by anti-fascist over neo-Nazi haircut admits he was lying
https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-claimed-stabbed-anti-fascist-173823347.html

A man who claimed he was stabbed by a member of Antifa for having a neo-Nazi haircut on August 16 was arrested after he admitted to police he fabricated the entire story.

Joshua Witt, 26, told police two weeks ago that he was getting out of his car outside a restaurant in Sheridan, Colorado, when he was confronted by a man who asked him, "Are you one of them neo-Nazis?"

In Witt's original account of the events, the unnamed man then charged at him and attempted to stab him, which Witt tried to deflect, causing him to sustain a minor hand injury.

Witt later took to Facebook to post about the incident, sharing photos of his bloodied clothing and bandaged hand, which he said needed stitches.

"Apparently I look like a neo-Nazi and got stabbed for it ..." he wrote at the time. "Luckily I put my hands up to stop it so he only stabbed my hand ... please keep in mind there was no conversation between me and this dude I was literally just getting out of my car."

However, police allegedly became suspicious of Witt's story after they reviewed surveillance videos from nearby restaurants and saw no one fleeing the scene, according to the Denver Post.

After police discovered footage from a nearby sporting goods store that showed Witt purchasing a small knife, they brought him into the station on August 24 for further questioning.

When investigators confronted Witt with this new information, he admitted that he cut himself by accident in his car with the knife he just purchased and then fabricated the entire stabbing story.

The Denver Post reports that Witt was booked on a charge of false reporting to authorities and released on a court summons.

If he is convicted, he may face a fine of up to $2,650 and sentence of up to one year in jail.
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what an awesome thing to lie about.

It just goes to show you that in these highly emotional times a nut with a story can push the entire Nation this way or that.

It is important for rational people to express their opinions but to limit their actions during these difficult times.

If we are to fight, let it be on our terms and not be goaded into it by some nut.

I agree.
Someone should step up and stop this man.

and the rest of us should worry about day t day living, and working with regular folks. That man is an [censored], but why in the world have so many people let him turn them into his cloan?

He is an idiot, yet so many folks seem tothink that it makes it OK for them to be just as bad as them

I wouldn't send him to jail, because (judging by this story) he wouldn't do very well there. I'd make sure he knows that, too. The only reason we're not sending you to jail is because snowflakes get eaten alive.

Fine the hell out of him. I bet he wasted more time than a $2600 fine would cover.

My guess: they've always been like this beneath the surface, and he's given them permission to channel their inner "Jr Hi Mean Girl."

He calls people derogatory names. He mocks the handicapped. He riles up bigots with loaded rhetoric and not-so-inaudible 'dog whistles.' His word is worthless because he lies daily- sometimes, over inconsequential things.... and now, folks think they can act just like him.

Ironic thing is this: he has Secret Service to protect him. His clones do not... and sooner or later, they'll say the wrong thing to the wrong person at the wrong moment- and [i]WISH[/i] they had Sec Serv to pull them out of that azz whoopin.'

Look at "The Crying Nazi" Chis Cantwell, for instance. Ran his mouth, acted a fool in public- and now he's getting btchslapped by Life. Crying like a 14 year old girl who's just been sent to the Dean of Discipline's office. Since we've never heard of him before, one must assume that he was emboldened by the jerk living at 1600 Penn. That's not to put all the onus on Mango Messiah- these folks are responsible for their own actions- but he hasn't exactly been a role model for tact and propriety.

Jackasses don't need much encouragement to be the punchbowl turd. alt/potus 45* spent 2015-2016 giving them the thumbs-up on boorish behavior.

Like I said last Summer: this man represents every personal behavioral trait My Parents trained me to loathe. I look at this current situation as temporary national insanity, and that common sense (and common courtesy) will return after we've had our "azzhat's rumspringe."

Keep breathing, bro- like a big, jagged kidney stone, this too shall pass.

Still waiting for you guys to condemn ANTIFA and their violence.

Still

waiting

Here's an article that's surprisingly only in that it's being covered by the Washington Post.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morn...m=.d3cabd416ef4

Black-clad antifa members attack peaceful right-wing demonstrators in Berkeley

Their faces hidden behind black bandannas and hoodies, about 100 anarchists and antifa— “anti-fascist” — members barreled into a protest Sunday afternoon in Berkeley’s Martin Luther King Jr. Civic Center Park.

Jumping over plastic and concrete barriers, the group melted into a larger crowd of around 2,000 that had marched peacefully throughout the sunny afternoon for a “Rally Against Hate” gathering.

Shortly after, violence began to flare. A pepper-spray-wielding Trump supporter was smacked to the ground with homemade shields. Another was attacked by five black-clad antifa members, each windmilling kicks and punches into a man desperately trying to protect himself. A conservative group leader retreated for safety behind a line of riot police as marchers chucked water bottles, shot off pepper spray and screamed, “Fascist go home!”

All told, the Associated Press reported at least five individuals were attacked. An AP reporter witnessed the assaults. Berkeley Police’s Lt. Joe Okies told The Washington Post the rally resulted in “13 arrests on a range of charges including assault with a deadly weapon, obstructing a police officer, and various Berkeley municipal code violations.”

And although the anti-hate and left-wing protesters largely drowned out the smaller clutch of far-right marchers attending a planned “No to Marxism in America” rally, Sunday’s confrontation marked another street brawl between opposing ends of the political spectrum — violence that has become a regular feature of the Trump years and gives signs of spiraling upward, particularly in the wake of the violence in Charlottesville.

“I applaud the more than 7,000 people who came out today to peacefully oppose bigotry, hatred and racism that we saw on display in Charlottesville,” Berkeley Mayor Jesse Arreguín said in a statement. ” … However, the violence that small group of protesters engaged in against residents and the police, including throwing smoke bombs, is unacceptable. Fighting hate with hate does not work and only makes each side more entrenched in their ideological camps.”

In February, 150 similarly black-clad agitators caused $100,000 worth of damage when they smashed through Berkeley protesting a University of California at Berkeley speech by right-wing provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos. Portland, Ore., has been the scene of street battles between antifa members and white nationalists this summer. White nationalist Richard Spencer was sucker-punched by a protester in a January video that went viral. And Inauguration Day 2017 in Washington, D.C., was marked by violence when masked protesters burned vehicles, smashed windows and clashed with police, leading to 231 arrests.

On Sunday, police in Berkeley maintained a strict perimeter around the area in the beginning of the afternoon, including enforcing an emergency city rule outlawing sticks and other potential weapons from the park. Fifty officers were spread out at the area’s four entrances, according to the Daily Californian.

But antifa protesters — armed with sticks and shields and clad in shin pads and gloves — largely routed the security checks and by 1:30 p.m. police reportedly left the security line at the Center Street and Milvaia Street entrance to the park. Berkeley Police Chief Andrew Greenwood told the AP the decision was strategic — a confrontation was sure to spark more violence between the protesters and police.

“No need for a confrontation over a grass patch,” Greenwood said.

Joey Gibson was among the right-wing activists assaulted Sunday. Gibson, the leader of the Oregon-based Patriot Prayer group, had planned to hold a “Freedom Rally” at Crissy Field Beach. Gibson previously told the L.A. Times his group was not “white supremacist” but “feared that extreme or racist figures might try to co-opt his event.”

Yet, as with other planned right-wing events in the wake of Charlottesville, Saturday’s rally drew controversy in the San Francisco area, with one group stockpiling dog feces to lay at the scene on Saturday.

Last Friday, Gibson canceled the event because of the mounting pressure. “It doesn’t seem safe; a lot of people’s lives are going to be in danger tomorrow,” he told Unite America First.

Attention shifted to Sunday’s “No to Marxism in America” event. However, last week, that event’s organizer, Amber Cummings, also signaled the event was off due to the growing tensions. “I stress I DO NOT WANT ANYONE COMING and if they do you will be turned away, I’m sorry for this but I want this event to happen peacefully and I do not want to risk anyone getting harmed by terrorists,” Cummings wrote online, according to NBC Bay Area.

On Sunday, Cummings reportedly did not appear for her event, and anti-hate marchers far outnumbered the right-wing element that did make an appearance, the AP reported.

Although Gibson was reportedly seen being taken into custody, on Sunday the Patriot Prayer Facebook page stated “Joey is NOT in jail, and has NOT been arrested. He was cuffed and released after being shoved through the police line.” Gibson did not reply to a Facebook message seeking comment.

“We’re just puzzled as to why people consider violence a valid tactic,” Berkeley resident Kristin Leiumkuhler, 60, told SFGate. She, like others, had turned out with neighbors for a peaceful rally but left when things got ugly. “We felt disappointed and surprised by how many people were not in any way discreet about being with antifa — in fact being very bold and prepared to be violent.”

I don't like Trump, but it seems to me that his opponents have resorted to name calling, lies, bias, nitpicking, narrow-mindedness, whining, complaining, finger pointing, etc than his side has.

It's a a turn off. It actually leads to disgust from those who want to be open-minded and fair. The only thing preventing a complete swing of people like me to backing Trump is the man himself. LOL

Methinks all y'all are playing unfair.

I'm not certain who you and gm are talking about, but your comment above might be painting with a pretty broad brush.?

Yes, I saw this. Another peaceful protest interrupted by Antifa skull splitting.

This will eventually end ALL Liberal voices being heard, even the peaceful Left will be lumped in with this group.

Where is Schumer and Nancy and any Democrat leader to condemn this Terror?

They are showing their true colors by remaining silent, which is the same as supporting this group. It is no different than those who secretly support the KKK and Nazis.

AWOL

Behavior like this is nuts, and it's not an issue of 'sides.' If I see folks breaking property, causing violence, and breaking laws, I'm looking at lawbreakers. Doesn't matter what their cause du jour might happen to be.

Relax.
You bear no resemblance to the kinds of people I'm talking about. Actually, my brush is pretty pinpoint.

Review the list of personality traits in my post, then look for the people who admire/emulate those traits. You won't find yourself in that group, and I don't see you that way either.

You voted for a man I actively dislike, for reasons that I've not been shy in sharing. That fact has no bearing on my regard for you as a person. I can hold both those thoughts in my head at the same time (shaddup 40- with your weak 'fence-sitter' fall-back... )

In fact, if you did exhibit those traits, we'd have never met, because I avoid folks like Donald Trump as much as possible.

Nah- I'm using a fine-point Sharpie... and you've got no ink on you.

So no different than Trump?

Clem can walk and chew at the same time!

When did he say that?

NOOOOOOOOOO!

That is what Trump said in his first Presser about Charlottesville!!!

You didn't mention them by NAME!!!

This became a world Catastrophe as he was labeled a Racist for not mentioning the KKK and Nazis by name!

Ahh Ohh Eeeeee!

You You You You You You

That ain't natural talent- it's the result of hours and hours of practice...

I like seeing Clem get some love for his many nuggets of wisdom, except that GM nuts thing because that hurt my brain. Some things you just can't UNTHINK ABOUT! ewwwww lol

More double standards on who are the terrorists:



http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime...b64e2aeba6.html

Hey at least you were not thinking of mine...... opps now you are.

Least you only had to use the work 'hours'!

I think they meet the same standards as the KKK does as being a terror group.

Everywhere they go a fight breaks out.

jc

It is time to give credit where credit is due, to Nancy Pelosi: https://www.democraticleader.gov/newsroom/82917/


Pleasant surprises condemning Antifa's violence also came from the mayor of Berkeley along with the Washington Post.

Yes, a very pleasant surprise.

Agreed.

The fact the Potus defended many on one side as "very fine people" of the marchers who marched along side the KKK and the Nazi's, and ignored the good citizens of Charlottsville who protested against the KKK and the Nazi's tells volumes though.

True, too bad this is a one way street.

J\C
Actually, I don't believe her sincerity because it was her and her cronies on the hill that spewed all the hateful false narratives about her conservative counterparts that created ANTIFA.
Now that they have turned into a dangerous, violent ,and vicious hate group that's out of control she denounces them in a p.c. move pffffft.


P.S. When she denounces Soros the money behind her and this group then I woud believe her

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has formally classified the activities of anti-fascist groups (antifa) as “domestic terrorist violence”.

FBI, Homeland Security warn of more ‘antifa’ attacks: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/01/antifa-charlottesville-violence-fbi-242235

TL;DR version: There are a bunch of wackos, on both sides.

(Some select paragraphs, lots more in the link):

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Previously unreported documents disclose that by April 2016, authorities believed that “anarchist extremists” were the primary instigators of violence at public rallies against a range of targets. They were blamed by authorities for attacks on the police, government and political institutions, along with symbols of “the capitalist system,” racism, social injustice and fascism, according to a confidential 2016 joint intelligence assessment by DHS and the FBI.

After President Donald Trump’s election in November, the antifa activists locked onto another target — his supporters, especially those from white supremacist and nationalist groups suddenly turning out in droves to hail his victory, support crackdowns on immigrants and Muslims and to protest efforts to remove symbols of the Confederacy.

Those reports appear to bolster Trump’s insistence that extremists on the left bore some blame for the clashes in Charlottesville and represent a “problem” nationally. But they also reflect the extent that his own political movement has spurred the violent backlash.

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“It was in that period [as the Trump campaign emerged] that we really became aware of them,” said one senior law enforcement official tracking domestic extremists in a state that has become a front line in clashes between the groups. “These antifa guys were showing up with weapons, shields and bike helmets and just beating the [censored] out of people. … They’re using Molotov cocktails, they’re starting fires, they’re throwing bombs and smashing windows.”

Almost immediately, the right-wing targets of the antifa attacks began fighting back, bringing more and larger weapons and launching unprovoked attacks of their own, the documents and interviews show. And the extremists on both sides have been using the confrontations, especially since Charlottesville, to recruit unprecedented numbers of new members, raise money and threaten more confrontations, they say.

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California has become another battleground, with violent confrontations in Berkeley, Sacramento and Orange County leading to numerous injuries. And antifa counter-protesters initiated attacks in two previous clashes in Charlottesville, according to the law enforcement reports and interviews.

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“Both the racists and a segment of violent antifa counter-protestors are amped for battle in an escalating arms race, where police departments are outmaneuvered, resulting in increasingly violent dangerous confrontations,” said former New York City police officer Brian Levin, who has been monitoring domestic militants for 31 years, now at the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at California State University, San Bernardino. “It’s an orchestrated dance. The rallies spill over into social media and then even more people show up at the next rally primed for violent confrontation.”

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At the Sacramento rally, antifa protesters came looking for violence, and “engaged in several activities indicating proficiency in pre-operational planning, to include organizing carpools to travel from different locations, raising bail money in preparation for arrests, counter-surveilling law enforcement using three-man scout teams, using handheld radios for communication, and coordinating the event via social media,” the DHS report said.

The intelligence assessments focus less on guns than handmade weapons used by antifa, with photos of members brandishing ax handles and shields, often with industrial-sized bolts attached to create crude bayonets. A senior state law enforcement official said, “A whole bunch of them” have been deemed dangerous enough to be placed on U.S. terrorism watch lists.

The FBI and DHS had no comment on that, or on any aspect of the assessments, saying they were not intended to be made public.

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As a guy who used to be involved with a lot of union organizing on things like The WTO, I have had a few dealings with the anarchists groups that are now called Antifa. Was in Seattle and Miami when the black bloc riots caused millions of damages. I guess the part I dont get that has changed is how these groups are considered left or liberal or democrats. They were totally anti government , Dem or Repub. They were very anti corporate , including us union guys.

ANTIFA...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCsPzKQ0Q8I

Why do you capitalize it so weirdly?

I think they got tagged with being liberal/Democrats (even though I agree they aren't) is because liberals and Democrats embraced them. When they said they were going to protest the Fascist Trump and his supporters, liberals and Dems were like "My man!". Couple that with this tepid refusal to admit what kind of group they really are because admitting that would also eat away at their "fascist Trump" narrative.

Seems to me the KKK is exercising their right to free speech by promoting their hateful message while Antifa is out to shut down that Constitutional Right for all of us.

One is bad behavior while the other is Fascist Terrorism.

Yeah, all of those people the KKK has hung over the years is nothing more than peaceful protests and exercising their rights.

And Obama is a Muslim who was born in Kenya and took away all of our guns.