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It always seems like it's reading mine. Seriously.
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What about that Google thing you always talk about?
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I know, right? Except the current roster isn't updated on any of those sites yet. Anyway, my estimate is that we are at 61 guys after the Greco, Osweiler, Parkey, and Cooper round of cuts.
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Man, cutting Greco is a huge mistake. Hope it doesnt bite us in the ass.
Otherwise, so far so good.
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Think Rod Johnson getting hurt played into Greco not making it. Plus age and injury. Older backups aren't ideal, more so when you're not really a contender.
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I do wish Greco would have stuck. We are REALLY going young here ... they must think he's close to the end
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I do wish Greco would have stuck. We are REALLY going young here ... they must think he's close to the end Has anyone ever.......maybe even just once.........considered that it might be just a wee bit dangerous in having a lawyer making roster decisions? LOL y'all. I mean........to me it is something that sticks out w/neon colors. But, no one ever mentions it on here [excluding mac] and even he kinda misses that angle. I remember the outrage when there was a report that Banner/Lombardi wanted to have a say in roster decisions. Now, Sashi [the lawyer] is making roster decisions and people are okay w/it. 
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I do wish Greco would have stuck. We are REALLY going young here ... they must think he's close to the end Has anyone ever.......maybe even just once.........considered that it might be just a wee bit dangerous in having a lawyer making roster decisions? LOL y'all. I mean........to me it is something that sticks out w/neon colors. But, no one ever mentions it on here [excluding mac] and even he kinda misses that angle. I remember the outrage when there was a report that Banner/Lombardi wanted to have a say in roster decisions. Now, Sashi [the lawyer] is making roster decisions and people are okay w/it. For the first time since this front office took over I have to say WTF.It was stupid as hell to cut Greco. Today I wish I had the chance to tell Sashi that he is an [censored]. I may be 100 percent wrong but I don't agree with this move at all.
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For all of us sitting here behind our screens and keyboards, and not being in the room(s) where these decisions are made, we can either come to the conclusion that the FO is incompetent and flip out... or we can wait and see/hope that there's more to the story than them just deciding he needs to be gone.
I hope Greco asked to be cut in order to go somewhere and be starter or something. That's the only thing that makes some sense.
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If it were Sashi Brown sitting alone in an office like Mr. Burns making these decisions, I'd be worried.
My hope is that he is getting input from the people that know more than him (Hue Jackson, Andrew Berry, Ryan Grison [yuck], coaches, scouts, etc.) and then making informed decisions.
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My only guess is that they know they won't re-sign Greco at the end of the season and would rather keep a guy that has a chance to be on the team long term. This was my guess and the reason why I thought this move would happen months ago, just like D. Bryant ( you said this about Bryant too, right?)- that and injury concerns as I'm guessing, for their sake, they weren't 100%. . I guess Haden, too, but I never included him because of age and compensation. Joe Thomas might be next year. Mac, call them Denver Broncos' secretaries.
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For all of us sitting here behind our screens and keyboards, and not being in the room(s) where these decisions are made, we can either come to the conclusion that the FO is incompetent and flip out... or we can wait and see/hope that there's more to the story than them just deciding he needs to be gone. First of all........this is a Browns message board and it makes sense that the visitors to this board discuss the moves that the Browns make. No? I could take what you said and change a few words around, like this: For all of us sitting here behind our screens and keyboards, and not being in the room(s) where these decisions are made, we can either come to the conclusion that the FO is great and talk about how every move they make is wonderful... ....but, I won't do that. Because after all, this is a message board and expressing our opinions is kinda what it's all about, right?
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The Browns are obviously going as young as they can .... so the Greco move really shouldn't surprise, especially after bringing in Zeittler. I guess that it is just kind of sad,m because it reminds me that football is a business, and with the Browns going as young as they can, to find players for tomorrow, this means all of the players we have known and enjoyed for years are not long for the team.
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If it were Sashi Brown sitting alone in an office like Mr. Burns making these decisions, I'd be worried.
My hope is that he is getting input from the people that know more than him (Hue Jackson, Andrew Berry, Ryan Grison [yuck], coaches, scouts, etc.) and then making informed decisions. Oh, I think this is true. But, I think a person would have to have their head buried in the sand if they can't recognize which moves were Sashi's. People can resort to making fun of other posters [like Memphis just did w/mac] and a bunch of others will follow along, but not all of us buy the BS and some of us don't even care if our opinions are ridiculed.
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we can either come to the conclusion that the FO is incompetent and flip out.. Or we can say the front office is still under review but that they screwed this move up 110 percent, which they did. Hey Sashi your making some idiotic dumb ass moves right now you asshat.
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Putting your faith in another person to make the right choices about something you care about a lot is a hard thing to do.
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By cutting Greco we save $3,075,000 against the cap (when can roll that money over to next year). There is no cap hit. https://overthecap.com/player/john-greco/286
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and their is no replacement for our starting QB
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and their is no replacement for our starting QB That you like. We have Kessler and Hogan. My guess is that Hue Jackson signed off on Osweiler being cut and he has a lot more information than us.
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Why don't people understand what a good, versitile OL player that Grecco is? Are they too caught up in counting money to understand just how much he's worth to this team?
They think it's fine to spend 16 mil. on a draft pick, but fail to see the wisdom of paying Grecco?
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Why don't people understand what a good, versitile OL player that Grecco is? Are they too caught up in counting money to understand just how much he's worth to this team? I haven't seen one person agree with cutting Greco.
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[like Memphis just did w/mac] Because they guy literally tried to sell us that the Browns called up Denver trying to trade him for the past three years. That's worth poking fun at.
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Guy plays 3 positions well screw the cap space. This wasn't haden that can no longer make a cut, this was our true 6th man in the line n invaluable.
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There has got to be more to the Greco story. I mean this guy is starter quality. I don't get it. To me, he was plug and play anywhere in the middle of the Oline. While I think they have made some good choices, to me, this is a major blunder.
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Why don't people understand what a good, versitile OL player that Grecco is? Are they too caught up in counting money to understand just how much he's worth to this team? I haven't seen one person agree with cutting Greco. I'm good with it. The counting money thing is a joke but I'm perfectly fine with Greco not being here.
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Here is what kills me. I have said for years that Greco was one of our best offensive linemen. I thought he was better than Bitonio. We sign the dude from the Bengals [whose name I haven't learned to spell yet] and I was like...........well, Greco must not going to be able to recover from his injury because I don't think he is much of an upgrade, if at all.
We give that guy unreal dollars and he has sucked in preseason. The Bengals OL gave up a ton of sacks right up the middle last year. Now, we cut Greco and trade Erving for a freaking 5th rounder.
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We sign a G to the highest salary at his position in the NFL and I don't see him being much if any of an upgrade from Grecco.
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We sign a G to the highest salary at his position in the NFL and I don't see him being much if any of an upgrade from Grecco. Zeitler didn't look great in the preseason, at least when I saw him. Greco was a reliable, flexible option ... IMO a dumb move
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He's far better than Greco and roughly five years younger. And knows Hue's offense being in Cincinnati.
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Cutting Greco ranks right up there some of dumbest moves this front office has made...unreal. Then again,
this will give Drango a better shot at getting on the field,
even though he is not as good as Greco.
Greco was going to cost them more $$$...end of story.
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We sign a G to the highest salary at his position in the NFL and I don't see him being much if any of an upgrade from Grecco. If a non-injured Greco was a free agent last off-season, what kind of contract does he get? Zeitler is universally considered one of the best in the league. Let's let Zeitler play a real game before we determine he was a bad signing.
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They think it's fine to spend 16 mil. on a draft pick, but fail to see the wisdom of paying Grecco? I have spent way to much time with our o-lineman and their families to realize that without those guys our team is screwed. O-lineman stick together like family, and our O-lineman are not stupid. They know this was a stupid move. It pisses me off it hurts our front office, and our team. It was a very STUPID MOVE.
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I don't understand the Grecco cut unless his health is at question. Brock was sort of to be expected, we'll probably keep two QBs.
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He's far better than Greco and roughly five years younger. And knows Hue's offense being in Cincinnati. Greco doesn't know Hue's offense? And what makes you an expert on OL play? Just wondering?
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For all of us sitting here behind our screens and keyboards, and not being in the room(s) where these decisions are made, we can either come to the conclusion that the FO is incompetent and flip out... or we can wait and see/hope that there's more to the story than them just deciding he needs to be gone. First of all........this is a Browns message board and it makes sense that the visitors to this board discuss the moves that the Browns make. No? I could take what you said and change a few words around, like this: For all of us sitting here behind our screens and keyboards, and not being in the room(s) where these decisions are made, we can either come to the conclusion that the FO is great and talk about how every move they make is wonderful... ....but, I won't do that. Because after all, this is a message board and expressing our opinions is kinda what it's all about, right? Yup, this is what I was getting at.
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j/c: I'm being selfish now.... 2/23/17 The Zeitler - Jackson connection is interesting but he is going to command a lot of money. If we sign him, I don't think Greco's time in Cleveland would last much longer considering the injury, age, and contract year.
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I think it was a bad decision. I think it cost depth for not a lot of savings.
I dont think its going to be a big deal.
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Greco wasn't slated to start. I know we've come to expect mayhem on our roster as far as injuries every season, but as far as backups I can see how the argument could be made that the preference would be for ascending rather than descending players. Yes, Greco has been good for us but he's not all the way back from the foot surgery, and who knows if he'll be as good as he was last year. The timing of his injury was unfortuitous and his contract is nearing its end. Between injuries and vet rest days we have to make sure we can field an entire OL.
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