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Kessler must really be bad ! lol , No trade offers

Hue, "There will be trade offers, trust me".

That wouldn't be bad if it was a screen .......but man, that just looks like a pure jail-break.

lol, three on four. It looks like the Green Bay rushers should turn around and start blocking for Wilson.

LOL..............when a picture tells a thousand words.

Where is their 5th offensive lineman??

One other ... they showed a clip of LeSean McCoy, and my goodness, that man has absolute suddenness in his running. He cuts, jump cuts, and if not where the defense expected him to be just a micro second earlier. His knees much be made of heavy grade rubber, or something, for him to still be that effective. He's 29, and might be quicker (faster is debatable) than he was as a much younger player.

If you didn't see it:

http://www.buffalobills.com/video/videos...03-542206530e51

D-line ate him.

shady is the only player in the nfl allowed to carry the ball like a loaf of bread lol

saints already have 2 PF penalties the first drive

lol!

man the saints aren't looking good at all.

Diggs is destroying #21.

Cook looks like a pretty good back. I'm impressed.

Someone please tell me why Pat Schurmer now calls a decent O game?

I've been trying to tell someone to test the water in Berea.

Clem...........it's mostly about talent and culture.

A long time ago, Marty said "play calling is overrated." He was mocked for it by the ignorant fans, but what he said was true.

Execution trumps play calling most of the time.

I think that most guys who make it the NFL level understand Xs and Os. They are some dumb ass pee wee coaches.

It's about talent and culture first and foremost.

Funny how people scoffed at suggestions of signing Bradford.

I can think of an excellent example of that. I can't recall the opponent, but Shurmur handed the ball off to the TE Alex Smith and he promptly fumbled. It was hailed as one of the most bone-headed play calls in Browns history. In the playoffs of the same season Bellicheck handed off to TE Aaron Hernandez resulting in a big gain. It was hailed as a genius play call.

rex ryan is already entertaining as hell as an announcer and the game hasn't even started yet lmfaooo

Rex is a great personality.

Hey man, I wish you would post more. You seem way more even-minded than most. I love how you ask questions and seemingly more interested in education than dictating a one-sided opinion.

So, the great fans of LA couldn't even fill half of the Coliseum for the opener. LA doesn't deserve a NFL team, never mind two.

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/nfl/rams-...ener/ar-AArHBZL

While I agree they don't deserve 2 teams (possibly not even 1) it looks like these pics were taken right at the beginning of the game. First Energy stadium looks completely empty right at the beginning as well and then fills in about midway through the first (at least at the beginning of the season, lol). I would like to see a pic from the second quarter.

60k isn't that bad considering most NFL stadiums are in the 60-70k range. The NFL isn't there for filling the stadium IMO anyhow - they want the TV market. Not having a team in the 2nd largest market in the country doesn't make sense from a dollars standpoint.

They should've never left St. Louis.

But this is one of those underlining symptoms of a problem. Fans and teams expect players to show loyalty when the teams/owner are disloyal themselves. It's a big reason as to why I support complete player mobility in all sports.

Totally agree with both points Swish. It sucks for fans, but players deserve to get their money when they can just as the owners do.

Once the game did start however, Rex was cringeworthy bad. He seemed uncomfortable.

Yep. He played a great game last night.

And we need to remember they scoffed at signing Alex Smith too.

KC drafted Berry before we picked that year in the draft. The Browns took Haden two picks later.

Bradford was liting it up yesterday.

about the best ive seen him play ever

I was never concerned about his ability, his injury history is what had me not wanting him.

As a Terp myself, I wanted him in the 4th round 3 years ago.. instead 20 picks before him, we took Vince Mayle... how'd that work out?

In college Diggs was a tremendous athlete and a great WR on a poor team with the worst QB play in history... Absolutely no way for him to showcase his talent... I had a feeling he would be good.

Agreed. He made some amazing throws last night....especially to Thielen. Both he and Diggs are making Treadwell an afterthought.

And speaking of afterthoughts, if Bradford plays as well as he did last night all season long, Bridgewater will be one too. I have to keep in mind that his performance was against a New Orleans defense.

Vikings D brought the pressure all night too. They played well.

I dunno...

Bradford has always seemed to do just enough to keep his hype train rolling along.

The area I live in should have never gotten two teams. I agree with that. This article is a bit unfair. First, as the article says, the Coliseum is ginormous. Like huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge. There are also very few luxury boxes, so the stadium looks different than most when empty. You see all the empty seats up top when in other stadiums you don't see much above the boxes.

Second, because of logistics and renovations USC is doing to the Coliseum, only 70,000 tickets are available even though the stadium holds nearly 94,000 people. If there were 94,000 people in that area no one would get to the game because of traffic.

Third, the announced attendance was over 60,000. That is not a great number, but the Coliseum is 94 years old, in a horrible area (that is hard to get to), and the team was horrendous last year. 60,000, given those factors, is not bad.

Helps to know the full story.

What's your thoughts on 'when' the team is better/good ... and what impact will the stadium in Inglewood have? Will there most likely be consistently full stadiums then?

Smith was traded, not signed. As far as I know, Smith has never been a FA before.

Bradford has always had the ability, he is just made of glass too. Risk/reward type of signing.

Like anything, if the product is good, people will buy it. When the new stadium opens I think there will be more of a crowd. It'll be a bit like the stadium in Dallas. People will go just to see the stadium. Also, they're going to gentrify the crap out of the part of Inglewood where the stadium is so that people will want to hangout there (they did the same thing with where the Staples Center is, LA Live).

The new LA stadium is going to be quite ridiculous. Inside this news story there is a photo gallery of what the stadium will look like:

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-inglewood-stadium-delay-20170518-story.html

Here is another article with different information:











The entire stadium complex will be around 300 acres.