DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum #65 Larry Ogunjobi Rookie DT

His draft thread was archived, so I thought I'd start a new one here. He earned some rave reviews for the snaps he played Sunday.

Sam Monson
@PFF_Sam
Larry Ogunjobi was a monster for the Browns in the run game against Pittsburgh. Legit beat up on the Steelers OL (one of the best) at times

https://twitter.com/PFF_Sam/status/907454487517974528



Top graded run DL in week #1.

The defense as a whole played pretty well. Looks like we had 60 snaps on defense, and Larry played 17. Surprised me too. Behind our starters, he was the D-Linemen who got the most playing time. I didn't notice much of Larry in preseason, but he played a role in a very successful unit on Sunday.

I was very happy with our D-Linemen and their run stopping ability as a whole. Hopefully we can get a bit more of a pass rush next week, but if our defense plays as well as vs the Steelers, I can't imagine I'd be complaining

He was a monster during the preseason. I know that in a DL rotation starting doesn't matter as much but I'd start him along side Shelton.

Over Coley? I thought Coley played very well on Sunday

Coming out, he had no idea what to do with his hands. big powerful guy but he was so raw that I would never have taken him where we did with the players that were available, but the kid has made a huge jump even bigger than the one we saw Scobert make.

I was at the game, so it was hard to see sometimes how was being subbed in and out. Any see how Caleb B. played?

Brantley was inactive

I think Shelton will be off the team next year...sooner if he didn't put in the work while being out/off season. If Brantley finds a motor, Shelton could be our 5th DT.

The release of Dez Bryant became more clear Sunday. Not because he was bad...but because the guys we kept are good...hopefully.

agree on shelton. he'll be gone of ogunjobi, brantley, and coley show out this year to the coaches

Most around here have been wanting rid of Danny Shelton since we drafted him.

Why would Shelton "be gone?"

Shelton's not going anywhere any time soon, IMHO. Nor should he. He's improved every year. He's a leader. And it's the first game of the season. Perhaps we should see how he does over the next 15 games or so before we toss him on the trash heap.

Agreed. Shelton is a good run stopper. He also plays a different technique than most of those guys. He plays the 1 technique.

Was Larry playing the 1 technique? I thought he was drafted to be the 3 technique.



I've got no problem with Danny

You also have to add that Shelton wasn't even supposed to play in this game at all due to a knee injury.

Yeah, I was surprised he started.

Not sure, Petey, I'm the wrong guy to ask.

I'm not an expert, so this is an honest question. Based on how Williams' scheme doesn't seem to follow traditional role distinctions, does 1-tech vs 3-tech mean that much?

Also, iirc, Shelton had to really work on his body between his rookie season and his second season. He had to change it a bit to be the proper weight/shape to play in Horton's scheme. Is he going to have to go through some of that again to play in William's scheme? Will he have to gain some back, or lose even more weight? While I am trying to give him a bit of the benefit of the doubt, it's also an honest question.

I thought Shelton played well. On the Ohio.com podcast (https://twitter.com/DanKadarABJ/status/907665454751260673) they mentioned that he was tripled teamed at times.

I didn't want to draft Shelton where we did, but now that he is on the team he serves a purpose. He is pretty good at sucking up blockers.

There is no reason for him to be off the team any time soon. Especially because guys like him don't get paid much.

I mean, maybe not in the sense of roles (as in sometimes Shelton might line up in another position, which I bet he would rarely do). But where they line up on the line is where they line up........

(For folk's reference, the 1 technique lines up between the guard and the center. Shelton as a Nose Tackle would normally line up in what the zero technique would have been)

As the one technique, Shelton (if effective) is tasked with commanding a double team (which helps the rest of the D-Line) and holding his gap.


Here's a picture for reference

This is what I'm concerned about. Look, I don't "want" him gone and I have no input on the decision anyway. BUT...if he ate irresponsibly and goofed off in the off-season rather than worked his butt off, he will make himself be gone.

He did not look good in the limited pre-season action he played. Let's hope that had nothing to do with how he worked and behaved in the off-season. There is some talent at the DT/NT spots now and he needs to compete to stick around.

Of the starting DT's (3t) Coley was in for (39) snaps and (nt) Shelton coming off of injury (23)
Then Ogunjobi was next with (17), followed by Meder with but (10).

My guess would be that he played at both the NT and the 3T.

Meder's snaps came at NT. Noteworthy is the fact that Ogunjobi was used moreso then Meder.

That certainly would be an endorsement toward Larry. I guess I'm just going to have to keep a closer eye on him. I don't always trust PFF and their stats on players. But I definitely was excited when we drafted him

Larry is progressing nicely, I liked the pick too, but thought that he might take some time to develop. He is exceeding my expectations of him, thus far.

I also like that his name is Larry. You just don't have many Larry's around me anymore.

Wanted to name my puppy Larry, but wife and mom said no way. So instead, he's Carl. Good name too though

Yes, I too simply going to have to pay more attention of his presence.

I can't say I know much about how Williams runs his D but here's how I believe it to be based on my experience...

The 1 technique typically plays like a 3-4 nose tackle...primarily eating up the blockers on the interior and taking on double teams where as the 3 technique is the "penetrator."

Yeah, you might say that I am patial to the name...

Well, I'm sure "patial" means something. I just don't know what.

*LOL* (r)

Careful then. There are 2 r's in Larry and a dog that thinks his name is Lay is gonna be a pretty lazy dog.

Shelton is a good player. No way should he be gone.The more good ones you have the better.

Correction (rr)

Not surprised by Ogun. Was surprised when some were down on him when he drafted. Thought he showed on film the ability to anchor, penetrate, take double teams and graded well at the combine and moved well for a big guy.

I think Schobert's 'jump' was a result of returning to his natural position and being used properly.

One of the reasons why I like the Browns is because they've drafted a bunch of players that graded highly on my little layman draftnik draft boards.

Ogun had a drive last week where he beat DeCastro and Pouncey numerous times. I havent seen a Browns DT do that...ever. He was dominating at times.

Props too you,edromeo for your board success. He seems to do many things well, just kind of invisible so far to me. Always seems busy, just making things happen for some other guys, like a real team player should. I want to watch him more; seems fundamentally sound with good instincts. When I see more, I hope to know more. I wanna watch his play more.

I saw Coley dominate in game 1. I remember seeing Coley stand out in pre-season game 3. I think Coley deserves a thread.

I want to see more of Coley. Nothing like a guy who appears 320lbs, running like a gazelle in pass protection.

I want to see Coley in at Fullback, lead blocking for somebody, hmm, wonder who?

I think Dayes should start, and Crowell should join the game fresh, 2nd series of the 3rd quarter; and keep Duke mostly in the slot, situationaly as a back.

And if you Paid Zeitler more than any interior lineman in NFL history, you may as well use his skills of run blocking.

Use more 6 man lines with rotating all these extra O Tackles, and max protect, isolate 1 receiver, mix up the running game.
If this team is going to win the offense has to start clicking on all cylinders; and part of that is to run the ball, and make it work, even if it's not working at the moment.

RUN THE BALL!

Excellent point but i also believe his injury maybe not 100 percent healed.