DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Palus Politicus President Trump Addresses the UN Today

A very good speech by the President. In the last 10 months he rattled the Swamp, rattled NATO's cage and today he rattled the World's cage...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKK7IT6O7MQ

I heard the speech.

What an absolute embarrassment. The only thing he continues to "rattle" is our relationship with our allies.

Our respect around the world continues to tank under trump. We didn't drain the swamp, trump just drowned us in it.

Great speech IMO, couldn't be more direct. I loved the 'Rocket Man' reference! Also, the camera on the Iranian Ambassador when he was calling them out.

Hopefully people will understand what is meant by 'America First'

Hire a clown, expect a circus.

Yes, I thought it was great as he called out all those who needed calling out and praised all those who have earned our praise.

Before the entire Earth, our boy calls out Rocket man!
Classic Trump.

Exactly.

I'm highly disappointed. And the guy couldn't even sound presidential in front of the UN? The guy has made, and continues to make a joke out of the Oval Office.

Yea, your guy had a Nobel Peace Prize by now!

But the World's President is now gone and America's President is at the helm.

j/c

I just wonder if he could kiss the butts of China and Russia any more than he did?

You mean the kremlins president.

He's a sell out.

President Trump also laid out what might be known a the "Trump Doctrine" when he spoke of...

The Great revival of Nations, focusing on individual Countries following their individual desires and goals while pushing away
from the Multilateralism of today.

And for you Socialists out there, on Venezuela, President Trump said...

"Wherever true Socialism or Communism has been adopted it has delivered anguish and devastation and failure. It is not that Socialism in Venezuela was poorly done but that it was faithfully implemented."

Pushing towards Bilateral negotiations is not a revival of individual Countries. It's an exclusion of them.

Drip ...Drip ...Drip

The prez needs a civics lesson on socialism. Venezuela is not a socialistic government, it's a corrupt dictatorship like Russia, China, North Korea, Iran and few others.

Lie to yourself all you want but Venezuela was a Socialist Country that took the same course that all Socialist Countries eventually take, it descended into a corrupt and brutal dictatorship.

Was and is is two different stories.

The USA was a free country until our rights to free speech have been reduced to who has a permit, a gun, a flag, or a 4000 pound automobile as enforcers.

I think the speech wasn't too bad until he got to North Korea (I'm about halfway through now).

There's a lot of "we're great" and the normal platitudes that you would hear during a speech like this.

I'm really torn on the blunt calling out of certain countries. North Korea is probably fine to pile on, but Iran is a tricky one. Yeah, in reality (vs on paper) they're probably more our enemies than allies... but I don't think public naming and shaming (basically what he's doing) is going to help resolving the situation.

I dunno... I think I understand what he's trying to do, I'm just not really sure it's the right strategy in this arena.

I think his comments on Iran are a setup for what will come by next week.
President Trump will end the Iran deal because this holds us back from being able to address the bigger problem of Iran spreading terrorism and threatening its neighbors borders.

Iran building a Nuke is no longer as important as it was since they can simply buy them from NK now.

if trump does what you just suggested, then at that point, he needs to be removed from office immediately.

that would be close, if not, the dumbest thing he could ever do with regards to foreign policy.

Based off what? The fact you don't like the idea? Guess what, half of America (if not more) didn't like the idea of the Iran deal when Obama implemented it. Sorry if you don't like it, but he can scrap it if he chooses.

He can do a lot of things if he chooses. That doesn't mean they will be good things.

There were parts of it I absolutely agree with Trump on.

Made we wonder who wrote that speech for him.. Very out of character for him.

I remember that trump once said he wanted to be unpredictable. Well, he just telegraphed his punch to the North Koreans. And what president of sound mind, stands in front of a body made up of other countries representitives and says, we'll have to destroy NK? Seriously, that wasn't his finest hour there.

Also, America started turning around as of the last election? Is he serious? Wasn't he here for the financial decline of 2007 and 2008? Talk about a turnaround, that was all Obama.... ALL OF IT.

Love him or hate him, he (Obama) presided over the USA during one of the biggest turnarounds in recent history.

I know, I know, the Budget Deficit... What a mess.. and I agree, but how much of that was to help pull America out of the hole big investment banks and screwy politicians got us into?

But like I said, He made some sense when he was talking about (insert country here) first. Saying that yes, he's an America First guy... And that every leader of every other country should be saying the same thing about their country... He had a good thought there that he expressed very well I thought.

Mostly, I still find the guy to be as full of himself as always. This speech did nothing to change that in anyway.

Mostly, I find the guy to be full of-
...well, I guess you were right, after all.

So that automatically makes it a good policy just because Trump did it? Did half of America not like it? Or are you lying again just like you did with the illegal votes? You need to start citing sources for your numbers because you have zero cred.

The Iranian nuclear deal is a good deal. Just because you don't like or understand diplomacy means nothing, but unfortunately the ignorant is also in the oval. Sad.

Thanks Willie, it is nice not having to clean up all this Liberal Slobber and Drool myself.

And all that BS you have to clean up from your own mess. How do you do it all in a day?

You can't be serious? Maybe you're not old enough to remember Clintons deal with North Korea. Hows that deal working out?

You DO NOT PAY a country to not make nuclear weapons!

Don't you mean BRIBE? Like in a plane load of taxpayer cash?

I am so glad the gutless leadership we had is gone.

Bribe is a more appropriate term...thanks 40

I'm old enough to understand THIS deal.

We have them their own money. I dunno about that cash stuff but I don't care.

You use diplomacy FIRST to handle foreign issues. But you conservatives are so hell bent on just settling every thing with bombs and weapons.

It's only a bad deal to those who are horrifyingly blood thirsty.

The U.N. inspectors, you know, the ones who were right about WMD in Iraq? They did inspections not long ago that proved Iran was complying with the deal.

And it was their money that was given back to them. We didn't pay them anything.

We released THEIR money we had locked up. Stop lying.

We've been using diplomacy for how long now? How's it working out? Only a fool wants War man. Sheesh, who's provoking who?

So what would you have done with Iran if it's a bad deal?

For 63 years diplomacy has worked. Now all of sudden "Tiny Dancer" and "Rocket Man" can't get it done. No surprises here.

Murica first

President Trump also announced at the UN today that we don't need to bring Syrian Refugees to America because other countries in the region have agreed to house them until they can return. We pay those countries for their efforts.

President Trump said for what it costs us to bring one Refugee to America we can help 10 to stay in neighboring countries.

Brilliant! It also prevents us from becoming like the violent place Europe has become with rape squads and terrorism.

http://fortune.com/2016/08/05/money-america-iran/


you make this too easy.

President Obama denied the payment to Tehran was a ransom.

Ok. We know he doesn't lie.

In the meantime, Iran holds more hostages while waiting for the US to pay up again.

A short answer; Sanction the hell out of them to a choking point. Military action is a last resort but the threat of use must be upfront.

Everybody in the region needs to choke them. When the people of Iran get tired of starving they will react. It isn't long before the rats start eating their own. It's up to them to make changes in their own country.

Do you give the bully at school that takes your lunch money everyday more money? Do you give him a free lunch (like Clinton did with Light Water Reactors and annual fuel to keep the reactors running)....HELL NO! You round up all your friends and you take what he needs to survive and if he's too stupid or stubborn to comply then you frickin eliminate him!

Again, a short answer and no guarantee it will work.

But what if your friends refuse and tell you this is between them and you?

"China, however, sees no need to trigger a potential catastrophe on its border over what it regards as fundamentally a dispute between the U.S. and North Korea."
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/...th-korea-crisis

We have different definitions of the word; worked.